Brooklyn L requesting a pardon for Selling OSRS Acc

• Profile: http://https//www.sythe.org/members/brooklyn-l.344707/
  
  
• Report/post/reason that got you banned: Account I had sold to this user, had gotten recovered by someone, then also by me. Account Recovery Report, Be Careful Guys!
  
  
• Proof of contacting victims for repayment or repayment of victims:
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  Explanation of screenshots.
  Spoiler

  Gyazo 1: Refund Via PayPal.
  
  Skype Chatlog: Gyazo 2
  Tried Voice calling him while I had a break in work to resolve the issue. He acknowledges.
  He tries to recover the account, it had gotten denied.
  
  Screenshot 3, Chatlog Resumed: Buyer tries to explain it'd be easier for me to recover account. However I was gone for work during this time.
  Buyer tries to contact me again, AT THIS TIME, SEP 12TH I HAD RETURNED. I IGNORE HIM, BECAUSE I FINALLY GOT THE TIME TO READ ALL THE MESSAGES, AND THE FIRST RECOVER I HAD SENT HAD GOT DENIED. i SAW NO POINT IN EXCHANGING WORDS WITH THE BUYER.
  
  Buyer admits he was refunded. Great transaction process. Wants to buy account again? (Sarcastic probably)
• Anything you weren't banned for but want to confess to now: I once offered a free service for 38-60 agility but got bored and stopped doing it probably 2 years ago.
  
  
• Detailed description of the events that took place and why you think we should forgive you:
  
  I had sold an Oldschool Runescape account to a buyer. A Few weeks pass and he had lost control of the account, he messaged me on skype asking me to recover it. Roughly two days or so before I had to leave for a 10 day hiatus, he messages me saying the account has been jacked.
  
  I then return, and try to recover the account myself. The first attempt failed, and I waited a couple of days. Sent in another recovery, and it got accepted. I since then have changed everything about the account and it is now in my possession. The offense I am admitting to, is after the buyer had troubles with the account, after time, I therefore recovered it and was not as cooperating with him. I feel as if it's strange to get banned for someone potentially mishandling information of an account. However, as posted earlier the buyer has been refuned via paypal.
  
  
  
• Did you fully read and follow this sticky thread in the pardon section?: Yes.
• Previous pardon link(s) if applicable:

 

@Brooklyn L I am glad we have got past the first step in refunding the account's value.

My next question:
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(Edited the RSN version, staff see previous history for proof of RSN)

The user has proofs of funds on the account prior to you recovering it. Care to elaborate on the funds on the account once you recovered it?

 

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(not trying to get around the ban, Made this acc incognito then read the how to post w/o acc & existing pardon thread)


IIRC, The account had only 2-3M on it when I managed to recover it. Although this was in cash, there was roughly that value in random pots and foods etc when I sold it.

I will try to contact him, and see if he agrees to the fact there was only 3m* on the account.

For now, This is the most proving screenshot I have.
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Second thought, there's this one as well.
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Screenshot explanation:

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He sends me a screenshot of him with 1B on the account
I congratulate him
Asks about the refund
I tell him, It's not my fault the account got compromised. And even TOLD HIM to go through the paypal dispute system.

Screenshot #2 explanation: (continuation of #1)

Spoiler

Buyer is adamant that he scammed
Buyer only mentions the value of the account, and no other items associated.
(he said 100$, acc transaction was 115$ referring to same transaction however)

 

@Champ new reply.

 

So instead of defending yourself, you go straight to saying "Hey, just dispute me"?

You state:

How long after he sent you this screenshot that the account was "Compromised"?

 

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Edit: Noticed a spelling error that I was just going to ignore, but then I noticed the buyers e-mail in the chatlog after I posted So I *'d it out, and fixed em both

Firstly, I would like to apologize for the formatting mess.

Went through skype and got the chatlogs. I have included the a portion of the full chatlog, the chatlog starts at the LAST comment the buyer made during our transaction. This chatlog is EVERYTHING besides a few screenshots, to current time.

In regards to the amount of wealth on the account I have marked certain lines said by Carlos, the buyer, in purple inside of the chatlog. Helping the claim that the value of the wealth on the account was close to null.


In response to /u/Champ,

The picture was sent after the fact, However the Chatlog system in skype wouldn't let me copy pictures, that picture was sent approx.
[9/6/2017 9:39:00 AM] (when that picture was, please use previous gyazos in the previous post if you feel the need to confirm)
I will make where the picture was sent in a RED *** line in the final spoiler.

To further properly answer your question,
[9/4/2017 1:49:29 PM] Carlos Jamal: Bro did you recover the account....?
The screenshot of the 1B was sent two days AFTER I was aware of the accounts issues.

In response to your second statement

Please use that same red line as guidance, The two days before I said that dispute thing are logged. Then that's when I assumed that it would be the best method for both of us.


I would also like to note, Before I was writing this I messaged the buyer about the wealth on the account. These will be the last few messages. He claims that there was 1B, But honestly, He mentioned /champ/ and I feel as if he may of seen the pardon post where champ suggested the 1B value. As mentioned before, there is plenty of proof in the chatlog that I marked saying the buyer agrees the value of goods lost is 115$. (he says 100$ in rounding it down)

I would also like to note that the account did have miniscule progress from the time it was sold to current date. I don't feel as I am responsible for this at all. However, they are as follows.

Spoiler

95-99 Att
96-99 Str
98-99 HP
151-177 QP

These are very miniscule imo, and add only a small if any amount of value to it If any at all.
The stats are easily AFK NMZ'able.
I can get the exact list of quests done if needed. All i know off the top of my head is lunars and final part to RFD.

Please let me know if there are any other questions.

Spoiler

[8/18/2017 3:24:08 PM] Carlos Jamal: Done. thank you Brooklyn.
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[9/4/2017 1:49:29 PM] Carlos Jamal: Bro did you recover the account....?
[9/4/2017 1:50:27 PM] Carlos Jamal: i was legit with you from the start :l
[9/4/2017 1:51:49 PM] Brooklyn Kiowyn: What's up?
[9/4/2017 1:52:10 PM] Carlos Jamal: I can't login to the account I was doing just fine last night and the days before
[9/4/2017 1:52:28 PM] Carlos Jamal: email was changed to t*****
[9/4/2017 1:53:19 PM] Brooklyn Kiowyn: What email?
[9/4/2017 1:53:44 PM] Carlos Jamal: that's what it says on the homepage I can't read it
[9/4/2017 1:54:08 PM] Brooklyn Kiowyn: First try to recover the account, i've given you more information than you'd need.
[9/4/2017 1:54:20 PM] Brooklyn Kiowyn: Like a lot of personal info
[9/4/2017 1:54:43 PM] Brooklyn Kiowyn: If that doesnt work, try contacting them on twitter. I think ive read on reddit that works
[9/4/2017 1:54:44 PM] Carlos Jamal: I sent some info but haven't heard anything..
[9/4/2017 1:55:15 PM] Brooklyn Kiowyn: were you streaming or any reddit posts? Etc
[9/4/2017 1:55:22 PM] Carlos Jamal: no i wasn't
[9/4/2017 1:55:27 PM] Brooklyn Kiowyn: Ive been going hard in league past month.
[9/4/2017 1:55:39 PM] Carlos Jamal: you are the original owner, correct?
[9/4/2017 1:56:10 PM] Carlos Jamal: it should be super easy for you to recover especially if you put previous credit card info etc etc only you will be able to see or put for the recovery
[9/4/2017 1:56:29 PM] Carlos Jamal: try and recover it for me?
[9/4/2017 1:57:13 PM] Carlos Jamal: I put alot of time and effort into the acc bro :l if you truly mean good intentions plz help me out i dont know whats going on and i just hope you are being honest
[9/4/2017 1:58:31 PM] Brooklyn Kiowyn: Can you send me a screenshot or something? Im not even home atm, about to eat.
[9/4/2017 2:01:01 PM] Carlos Jamal: my email that we registered together was c*************@gmail.com
[9/4/2017 2:09:27 PM] Brooklyn Kiowyn: Yeah i think its in the messages
[9/4/2017 2:12:59 PM] Brooklyn Kiowyn: Have they gotten back to you?
[9/4/2017 2:13:40 PM] Carlos Jamal: na man they haven't :l
[9/4/2017 2:14:06 PM] Brooklyn Kiowyn: Let me know when they do, i know opening too many appeals at once is bad/fishy
[9/4/2017 2:14:38 PM] Carlos Jamal: Ok and if they don't get back to me? Meaning they didn't accept my appeal?
[9/4/2017 2:14:45 PM] Carlos Jamal: what do we do next
[9/4/2017 2:15:01 PM] Brooklyn Kiowyn: Lets hope for the best.
[9/4/2017 2:15:22 PM] Carlos Jamal: im going to give it a couple hours
[9/4/2017 2:16:58 PM] Brooklyn Kiowyn: Sounds good
[9/4/2017 8:38:10 PM] Carlos Jamal: it was denied
[9/4/2017 8:38:14 PM] Carlos Jamal: can you try now?
[9/4/2017 8:38:24 PM] Carlos Jamal: :l
[9/5/2017 8:18:53 AM] Brooklyn Kiowyn: At work now, man. I'd give it half or day or so and try again. I just reviewed the info i've given you, it's all correct.
[9/5/2017 8:58:12 AM] Carlos Jamal: You being the original owner as you stated in the post will give you the power to recover for sure. I've already seen how many times the name has been changed and the account status. Etc etc. The only person that could recover it is you so rather you are trying to scam me for those $100 or you are being honest and will be able to recover it for me with no problem due to our successful transaction. Let's give it half a day and hopefully you help me out later on today
[9/5/2017 9:01:27 AM] Brooklyn Kiowyn: I'll try to recover the account for you, that's not an issue. I apologize for any inconvenience you're having with the account you purchased, but i assure you, it's not originated from my end, mate.
[9/5/2017 9:02:02 AM] Carlos Jamal: Thank you Brooklyn...
[9/6/2017 9:03:50 AM] Carlos Jamal: Been a day, have you tried to recover?
[9/6/2017 9:23:56 AM] Brooklyn Kiowyn: I was waiting cause you said you just sent one in.
[9/6/2017 9:24:06 AM] Brooklyn Kiowyn: And were about to do training for 9 days
[9/6/2017 9:37:07 AM] Carlos Jamal: You are the "original owner" as you have mentioned before so can you send me a refund to my paypal while we get this situated? It will be super easy for you to recover if you truly are the only owner so you have nothign to lose like what I have lost already.
[9/6/2017 9:38:09 AM] Carlos Jamal: Unless this is a scam just be honest and let's not waste each others time man. All this for $100 I could have been giving you alot more as tips. I was going to be giving you alot of irl money and GP because I was winning big on staking.
[9/6/2017 9:38:38 AM] Carlos Jamal: but if you want to scam over $100 instead of making $1000+ then dam bro alright then lol
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[9/6/2017 9:41:09 AM] Carlos Jamal: I prepared for this i've made over 7b+ and as a thank you for your account I was going going to give you a large cut because you were a cool guy and very legit in the beginning but I guess you can't trust anyone now a days.
[9/6/2017 11:37:22 AM] Brooklyn Kiowyn: Thats insane, im glad for your fortunes. However, i see youre starting to get agitated and theres not much i can do.
[9/6/2017 11:39:06 AM] Carlos Jamal: okay, so just to clarify you aren't recovering nor issuing a refund to me is that right?
[9/6/2017 11:40:24 AM] Brooklyn Kiowyn: I will try to recover it when i can, but im really busy irl for 9 days or so. Why would i issue a refund? You may have submitted information to other sources. You may be at fault for this too, mate.
[9/6/2017 11:41:01 AM] Brooklyn Kiowyn: The best advice i have currently is try to talk to paypal, and see how they see it in the dispute center.
[9/6/2017 11:41:08 AM] Carlos Jamal: We can be making bank together man why bother scamming when I could get you money beyond the $100
[9/6/2017 11:42:06 AM] Carlos Jamal: submitted info to where? lol you are the "original owner" you have the power to recover in seconds
[9/6/2017 11:42:06 AM] Carlos Jamal: why not do it now?
[9/6/2017 11:42:46 AM] Brooklyn Kiowyn: 6633 Snake River Rd, Pasco, WA 99301, United States
[9/6/2017 11:44:08 AM] Carlos Jamal: ?
[9/6/2017 11:44:23 AM] Brooklyn Kiowyn: Im busy
[9/6/2017 11:45:40 AM] Carlos Jamal: I aint got a mic at the moment or else I would have answered
[9/6/2017 11:45:40 AM] Carlos Jamal: alright man well just lmk so we can resolve this and move on
[9/6/2017 11:46:09 AM] Carlos Jamal: i'm still willing to work something out with you, let's just make some $$$$$ forget about scamming.
[9/6/2017 11:46:59 AM] Brooklyn Kiowyn: I dont see what the problem is, i gave you the same information that i'd use to recover kt
[9/6/2017 11:48:10 AM] Carlos Jamal: Ive already inputted it and got denied
[9/6/2017 11:48:10 AM] Carlos Jamal: thats the problem
[9/6/2017 11:49:13 AM] Carlos Jamal: but if you did it it would be easier because you are the original owner. Therefore every question will be a breeze AND you can include your CC info or whatever you had in the past to prove its you which you did NOT give to me and I didnt ask for it because it was sensitive information as well as courtesy.
[9/6/2017 11:50:12 AM] Carlos Jamal: All you have to do is recover it for me and once I am able to login then we are good and can decide what is next after that. As of right now I am down $115 of a product I have purchased as well as the product (account) itself.
[9/12/2017 9:27:16 AM] Carlos Jamal: Sooo.......?
[9/14/2017 6:41:58 PM] Carlos Jamal: Brooklyn? lol
[9/26/2017 6:19:14 AM] Carlos Jamal: Got my money unfortunately got you banned also. That sucks because you had a nice veteran account as well and we had a great transaction process. Either way win-win for me. Best of luck tho! Cheers. If you want to sell it again legit let me know
[9/28/2017 9:15:53 PM] Brooklyn Kiowyn: How much money was on the account went you lost it?
[9/28/2017 9:54:36 PM] Carlos Jamal: You mean when you recovered it? Over 1b not including the extra I put in to train the account and max it out with 99s and did Lunar which you didn't have and many other quests.
[9/28/2017 9:56:51 PM] Carlos Jamal: Unless you repay me it back or a portion of it or actually recover the account for me and I own it successfully through a middle man (champ) then am I sure they will consider unbanning you.
[9/28/2017 10:03:06 PM] Brooklyn Kiowyn: I did manage to recover the account, and there was not 1B on there.
[9/28/2017 10:12:07 PM] Carlos Jamal: What?? How much is there?? I have seen it logged in many times before
[9/28/2017 10:12:14 PM] Carlos Jamal: Wow
[9/28/2017 10:15:09 PM] Carlos Jamal: I don't know what to
Believe anymore man. If you took it just be up front about it let's not play anymore games. You "recovered the account" so what happens now?
[9/28/2017 10:29:09 PM] Brooklyn Kiowyn: 3M.

 

Instead of working it out, why did you assume a dispute process with Paypal would be the best method?

Also why are you so quick to refund the money for the account, how are we suppose to know you didn't recover it and take the goods on the account?

 

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I was really busy with work for the 2 week period, and then when we come back from the training we have to work late for another week or so to clean everything and make it as if we didn't leave.
I knew I'd be busy IRL.

Once again, I am admitting to not being cooperative with a buyer about an account that was hijacked.
The buyer has since been refunded, and the main question now is about the value of wealth on the account. I believe I have submitted enough proof in the post beforehand to cover this. (The text highlighted in purple, in my previous's post LAST spoiler) I'm not sure if there's anything else I have information wise, besides my own knowledge and outlook on things to support my case.

Please let me know if there's anything else I can help with.

 

@Brooklyn L If you leave anything out your pardon will be denied. Are there anything else you would like to add?

 

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Only thing I have to add is the last thing he said to me on skype.

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buyer tried threatening me? I ignored him because I deemed this as a personal threat.

 

I have moved your pardon to SL for voting. Please be patient as this can take up to two weeks.

You can view pardon decisions here.
You can apply for a DNT in the mean-time here. (Your choice)
If you're unsure what a DNT is, you can read about it here.