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This is a science lesson. The majority of pupils attending this school only believe in the Creationist theory, and disagree completely with the Evolutionary theory. They believe that we could not possibly evolve from a tiny thing into what we are now. Having said that, they believe that a man in the sky has super-awesome powers and can create universes, so I'm a little confused on that basis.

They also believe that the Evolutionary theory has no evidence whatsoever, while obviously not thinking of how little, if any, evidence there is for God, and the creationist theory.

I have argued on this video with a fellow YouTuber who believed the Science teacher was in the wrong, and that he should respect their opinion. I agree he should respect their opinion, but they won't respect his whatsoever, and they won't even let him speak. He is trying to teach Science, but these people just blab out Creationist quotes, and opinions to counter anything he says.

Moments to watch out for

#1. "There is like... There.. There is like just no.. like... evidence.. like.. for Evolution.. like.."

#2. "How can like.. african.. african american people like... have evolved from white people.. we're different skin..."

#3. "John Wilkey [The Teacher] (supposedly) walks a thin line between Science and Religion, because he is unable to suppress ongoing biased opinion from the pupils in his classroom"

#4. Not a quote, merely watching all the kids shake their heads while he's trying to teach them the theory, completley ignoring him.


Opinions? Discuss.

Opinion Questions
#1. Do you think the pupils are right to say what they do, in a Science lesson?
#2. Do you think the teacher is good or bad?
#3. Do you believe that these pupils learn these things solo, or are forced into it by their parents/carers/peers?​
 
Billetes said:
Sad to say the least, this is what's holding us back from progressing as humans.
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Yup. I really just didn't know that this many people were so brainwashed, that they became insta-bigots and accepted only their only opinion and belief as true. They don't even consider that Evolution can be possible. That girl genuinely doesn't see the anti-logic in "We cannot possibly have evolved from little tiny things to what we are now", followed by "There must've been some kind of supernatural thing to make us!". Surely, if us Humans can't evolve from single-celled Amoebas, then there sure as hell can't be a magical man in the sky.
 
Rejection said:
Yup. I really just didn't know that this many people were so brainwashed, that they became insta-bigots and accepted only their only opinion and belief as true. They don't even consider that Evolution can be possible. That girl genuinely doesn't see the anti-logic in "We cannot possibly have evolved from little tiny things to what we are now", followed by "There must've been some kind of supernatural thing to make us!". Surely, if us Humans can't evolve from single-celled Amoebas, then there sure as hell can't be a magical man in the sky.
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After reading several comments on that video, I've come to the conclusion that YouTube arguments are a waste of time. I can't even get sense out of people, or have a civilised e-conversation without "umad?" or "ur mom" being thrown at me.

For Gods' Sake.

:nuts: Teeheehee :nuts:​
 
this is really sad


they do not even use any logic when arguing against evolution, they just deny them outright.

someone should have told that one kid about the course of human migration into the other areas of the world from Africa.

so typical of white christians to think that every other race came from them
 
The Debate is whether you believe they are right or wrong with their arguments, giving reasons for yours. Also, What do people think of the teacher- is he a good or bad one?

EDIT : I added a few questions at the top, see if we can get a differance of opinion on some of those
 
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LOL. You can tell these people are from Alabama. Love the accent :) It's obviously hammered into them by parents and teachers. If they only learned this from social context, they would be open minded and willing to listen, even if they aren't converted
 
noamyoungerm said:
LOL. You can tell these people are from Alabama. Love the accent :) It's obviously hammered into them by parents and teachers. If they only learned this from social context, they would be open minded and willing to listen, even if they aren't converted
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I agree- they seem to be completely closed off to anything "Sciency" because of what their parents / teachers have drilled into their heads. It looks to me like that have had no say on their own beliefs, and that before they were to learn of the Evolutionist theory, they were already told it was lies by their parents / teachers. I'm sure they'd be more open-minded providing they didn't get taught to only believe in one thing, and see the other things as completely irrelevant.
 
I hate it when strongly religious people are this ignorant about a widely accepted and a widely proven theory. Religious views have no place in a science classroom, and the pupils should not be there if they can't accept different beliefs, and just proceed to block them out. The pupils didn't seem to be paying attention to what the evolution theory, but just denying it.

I think the teacher is just trying to do his job, he has been employed to teach the evolution theory but the pupils won't let him, so I don't believe he is in the wrong. I'm sure he does somewhat respect the pupil's opinions, but not vice versa. But for sure, he could teach in a different way to engage the pupils more and maybe open their mind.

The problem probably came from the parents, who taught them to be that ignorant about evolution. They don't seem to know many details about the evolution theory themselves, and seem to be puzzled about how it could apply to humans. Also, they probably don't pay attention to their biology lessons, shown when the guy doesn't know how a white skinned person could have evolved from a black skinned person.
 
Rule number one; when in a science classroom, don't mention religion.

I found this quite shocking, that they are so ignorant as to hold the views they hold, when the proof is in front of their very eyes.

People must be open to new ideas and concepts to develop their learning and understading of the world we live in.


As for the teacher, I believe he should make it clear, that he is not here to debate on whether he personally believs in God, but here to teach. The pupils can either choose to take in this information, and advance their learning, or be completely ignorant... In which case they should just leave.
 
That is truly scary. I got slightly upset whenever the girl first said we HAD to have come from a supernatural being. I realize she's a child but what's being taught in Biology classes? I'll be more fair actually and just continue criticizing the church for hammering down (even if only little by little) theistic values and logic. Yes, I believe there is some logic in the Bible and other theist writings. I agree with what everyone else has said also.
 
oxodium said:
Rule number one; when in a science classroom, don't mention religion.

I found this quite shocking, that they are so ignorant as to hold the views they hold, when the proof is in front of their very eyes.

People must be open to new ideas and concepts to develop their learning and understading of the world we live in.


As for the teacher, I believe he should make it clear, that he is not here to debate on whether he personally believs in God, but here to teach. The pupils can either choose to take in this information, and advance their learning, or be completely ignorant... In which case they should just leave.
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I completely agree with you. I unintentionally wrote a more vague version of what you said. That's why I made my comment about what's being taught in Biology classes and why I blame most churches. The abundance of knowledge just can't pass through the kids minds. It's as if they have a make-believe tin foil wrap around their heads that blocks out purely legitimate, empirical knowledge.
 
slysteeler said:
I hate it when strongly religious people are this ignorant about a widely accepted and a widely proven theory. Religious views have no place in a science classroom, and the pupils should not be there if they can't accept different beliefs, and just proceed to block them out. The pupils didn't seem to be paying attention to what the evolution theory, but just denying it.

I think the teacher is just trying to do his job, he has been employed to teach the evolution theory but the pupils won't let him, so I don't believe he is in the wrong. I'm sure he does somewhat respect the pupil's opinions, but not vice versa. But for sure, he could teach in a different way to engage the pupils more and maybe open their mind.

The problem probably came from the parents, who taught them to be that ignorant about evolution. They don't seem to know many details about the evolution theory themselves, and seem to be puzzled about how it could apply to humans. Also, they probably don't pay attention to their biology lessons, shown when the guy doesn't know how a white skinned person could have evolved from a black skinned person.
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I hate it when strongly scientific people are this ignorant about a widely accepted theory, that human life came from God. I'm not saying either is right or wrong, but your self-righteous tone and your own ignorance is irritating. I honestly hate it when people preach about others being ignorant, yet he or she is just as bad.

As to the creationist theory versus the evolution theory, one can believe in both while still believing in God. People seem to think that if you believe in God you disregard every scientific theory out there about how human life came to be, that is an extremely ignorant view in its own right.
 
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I hate it when strongly scientific people are this ignorant about a widely accepted theory, that human life came from God. I'm not saying either is right or wrong, but your self-righteous tone and your own ignorance is irritating. I honestly hate it when people preach about others being ignorant, yet he or she is just as bad.

As to the creationist theory versus the evolution theory, one can believe in both while still believing in God. People seem to think that if you believe in God you disregard every scientific theory out there about how human life came to be, that is an extremely ignorant view in its own right.
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Evolution and God can go hand in hand, that is correct.

However, is it reasonable?

The universe started 13.7 billion years ago in the Big Bang (unless of course your an Early Earth Creationist, or disagree). If God is omnipotent, why did it take him 300,000 years to start creating the first atoms? Why would he wait so long? Why would he wait almost 10 billion years before creating the Earth. Why would he then make life evolve for billions of years into Humans? Why would he wipe out the dinosaurs, did they not believe in him?

It piles numerous layers of complexity, and as such, using Occam's Razor, it is more than likely incorrect.


Also, just because a theory is widely accepted, doesn't make it any more valid. However, because it is so widely accepted, people should take the time to read why it is so widely accepted.
 
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