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Communism doesn't fail all the time. (Communism can be the best kind of Government)

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  1. Mr impossible

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    Okay there's a fine line between good communism and bad communism. In WW2 Hitler killed 6 million people and so everyone was scared of communism. So the U.S was scared that Russia might get more power and spread communism. But Russia's communism actually worked well unlike Nazi Germany in the 40s. People had pretty normal lives. A lot of people had jobs and the whole country was unified. However in the 1991 the fall of the soviet union countries like Kazakhstan stated to become independent and it caused many wars. So probably thousands of people died because it wasn't fair for Russia. Kazhakstanian people got fed and Uzbekistan and eastern Europe was actually doing pretty good.All of Soviet Union got fed. Even the Asian people from Siberia. But the U.S destroyed it all. There's been utter chaos in the Eurasian countries as well since the fall of Soviet Union. That's why I support Russia.

    Russia today is not doing so well. The population is decreasing and by 2050 it might drop something like 120m people. Also in the 90s after the Soviet Union a lot of people were below the poverty line and had no jobs. Too much wars killed many people. Democracy today is not working in Russia. It's in the edge of communism or socialism. Russia's economy however is making a comeback.

    I think that any type of Government can work like Democracy, Capitalism, Communism, Socialism, it just depends on how your work it out.

    If there is a Dictator who actually wants to help his people, Communism can be the best kind of Government under the right Circumstances.
     
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    How much do you actually know about Soviet history?
    Do you know about the work camps in Siberia? Do you know about the conditions the Soviet people lived in? The do you know the quality products the Soviets created? Please try to answer my questions, please read http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=370752 and please explain under which circumstances Communism succeeds.
     
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    Yes I do know the Soviet Union and they actually did feed the Asian people in Siberia which are some of the poorest people in the world. Maybe they didn't have jobs, but they sure had their stomachs fed.

    The Quality of the products was the best in those ages. Of course it was the best because Russia was Superpower of the world back then. They could afford anything they want.
     
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    I can't see anything good coming from the reductions of my freedom.
    Hitler wasn't really a communist, more of a fascist.
    Uh, no it didn't. Millions of people were starved to death as a result of the state's decisions. Hundreds of thousands more were tortured in secret prison camps.
    I could point my weapons at you and hundreds of other people to unify us, but that doesn't make it good.

    Why would communism be better? Most of the problems in Russia are still caused by big government.
    Depends how you define "works". Nothing is better than capitalism and freedom for bringing up the average standard of living.
     
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    Capitalism in my idea fails because it can easily be abused......
    I support Communism when the leader is a patriot to their country.
    In Communism one person can step up and lead the country into being a prosperous one.
    Communism now has been rejected because in the past 100 years Communist leaders have been too power hungry and they just fail.

    Trust me Communism is good when the country is really suffering during a war or other things.
     
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    Lol.

    Tens of millions of people died from starvation, the average citizen was brutally poor, their property was of generally low quality, and the nation was being run by the iron fist of the KGB. That's not what I'd call "working well".
     
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    That's not true. People were coming up with Crazy stories due to America pressuring the people of Russia. The Average Citizen was not brutally poor they got fed, worked and lived pretty normal lives.

    Also even if Russia Communism didn't work. You cannot deny the potential that Communism has over Democracy. Because if one Patriot comes to being a Dictator of a country that's doing bad. Their determination will be outstanding and he will do anything to improve the country. But rarely there's a person like that. But it can happen in Communism. When a smart person knows what's right for their country and then just lead it to a prosperous future.
     
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    Look, Communism did not work well in Soviet Russia. It works in theory and also in practice with much smaller groups of cooperative individuals, but all you need to know is some history in order to throw your argument in the bin.
     
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    How about the potential that Communism has over Democracy?

    Like Franklin Roosevelt he basically led the country out of a depression and won world war 2.

    Franklin Roosevelt did it with his great leadership because the Senate wasn't listening.

    To me Franklin Roosevelt was kind of like a dictator because he didn't care about what the Senate said. He also had 3 terms.

    Democracy is just everybody working together with different opinion.
    Communism isn't messy like Democracy and has only one opinion, the dictator himself and if he knows what's good for the country. He can lead them through a great future like Franklin Roosevelt. (Americans can't accept the fact that he was a little bit of Communist because they just look at each other as a democratic nation)

    Actually I think I've studied Russian history and I do think Russia Golden age was in the begging of Communism in that country and ended when they lost the Cold War.
     
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    Then you should study once more. Communism is horrible on a large scale. And how can you say the lost the Cold War. They had the power to nuke the whole planet multiple times. Nobody lost.
    And the reason the Communistic regime mostly ended was because Communism killed it. There were to much people who needed to be controlled.
     
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    Lol you are so wrong.....
    Russia was the world's superpower during its communist era.
    Now its not anymore the government is democracy and it's clearly not working.
     
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    How can you say that? Please tell to me what sort of army Russia had during the communist era? I at least know during WW II most of them were farmers and only one in so many had a gun or some decent clothing.
     
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    Mr. Impossible, you are so misinformed that it hurts.

    Germany was not a communist nation during WWII.

    Communism never works. Communism failing is not some American thought up ideal. Communism DOES fail.

    Also, if you knew anything about communism you would know that it was never officially implemented in the soviet union. The Soviet Union was controlled by a totalitarianism based government.
     
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    Communism doesn't fail all the time. (Communism can be the best kind of Government)

    Though I don't like democracy much either, I'd still much prefer the limited freedoms there than the no freedoms with communism.
    What are you talking about? FDR extended the Depression by years.

    No, it's basically mob rule.
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    Yes, one opinion for everybody is certainly better than the combined intelligences of people working together under a free enterprise system.

    If by golden age, you mean the period when the state had the most control, then yes. If you are talking about the well being of the citizens, then you are a fool.
     
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    Lol Russia wasn't World Power lol????/
    Everyone knows that Russia used to be World Power during its Communist Era.
    You are now just being Pathetic or just simply stupid....
     
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    We're talking about economy, not military.
     
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    I said in one of my previous posts that Russia had the power to nuke the entire world several times. I just want to know what sort of army Russia had after WW II.
     
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    Nazi German was a communist party. Every sources say Russia and Nazi Germany was Communist. So I don't know what information you're getting that says otherwise. How am I misinformed.

    I'm actually proving my point when ever I try to back up Communism you immediately think oh no Freedom no this. Sir, you've been brainwashed by America.
     
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    Yes, but FDR but he realized the Senate wasn't working, so he took action and ended the Depression.

    FDR got 3 terms because of WW2 everyone knew he could lead America and he did. So that's why America won WW2
     
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    Russia had no army because of the fall of the Soviet Union the whole country started to fall apart. Russia still has the power to end the world.
     
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