Change the motto or change the rules.

[Steve.FF]

Okay, most of you will call me an idiot but idc.

The motto is "The craiglist of virtual goods" .

Why do we not allow cracked MC accounts?

Craiglist offers things at a much lower price.

What people do off site such as cracking porn accounts, MC accounts, Orgin accounts. Why should we care?

This is a black market after all. Why should we care how some things are obbtained yes a lot of people are here for the community but its the market.

Everyone has there own set of skills.

Gold buyers and sellers control the RSGP market and make there profit like that.

Questers get trusted and quesst on other peoples account for $.

Bug abusers sell bugs, and glitched items for money.

Crackers take time to crack some passwords to get the account.

Account recoveres mostly recover 5+ year old accounts that will never be touched again and sell the gold off of there..

How is cracking for $, different then questing for $?

Change the motto or change the rules.

I'm not saying unban Scammers off site, Ratters off site, Phishers off site just to be clear.

I don't see how a gold farming operation is any different then account recovering.

My suggestion change the motto to something else. Such as the Black market for virtual online games since thats what it's stricken to be.
OR
Allow the sale of cracked accounts without mentioning it.

 

[They be trippin]

So we don't get sued and shut down.

 

[JetFlix]

You're the definition of ridiculous.

Cracking - Obtaining login information that is not yours to profit off. (Illegal)

Questing - Playing a game

How does your reasoning even begin to justify changing the motto? Do you think people should also be allowed to sell drugs and bank information on the actual craigslist?

~Most people don't even "crack" them, as it would take FOREVER. The majority infect other computer users with a virus to obtain the information.

 

[Steve.FF]

So we don't get sued and shut down.

Why would we? If someone is selling for a dollar and we have no proof it's cracked or anything we can't be held responsible.

You're the definition of ridiculous.

Cracking - Obtaining login information that is not yours to profit off. (Illegal)

Questing - Playing a game

How does your reasoning even begin to justify changing the motto? Do you think people should also be allowed to sell drugs and bank information on the actual craigslist?

~Most people don't even "crack" them, as it would take FOREVER. The majority infect other computer users with a virus to obtain the information.

People already do all of that on craiglist and it's never been shut down. @TBT

Virtual goods include credit card #'s, bank information. It's a virtual good I'm not saying allow that am I?

Most people do crack them from a DB and just use dictionaries to get the password.

 

[Lilly]

Do you think people should also be allowed to sell drugs and bank information on the actual craigslist?

Wait, you're telling me you don't buy your social security numbers off Craigslist? I guess i should start finding another place to buy my Bath Salts.

You obviously have had some issues with users on the website, ranting about imperfections won't change the situation. If you get scammed or infected by another user report them and fix the solution, don't add to it.

 

[Steve.FF]

Wait, you're telling me you don't buy your social security numbers off Craigslist? I guess i should start finding another place to buy my Bath Salts.

You obviously have had some issues with users on the website, ranting about imperfections won't change the situation. If you get scammed or infected by another user report them and fix the solution, don't add to it.

Thanks.

I would like if you added your own opinion to the suggestion.

 

[Emperor Nero]

It's a motto. It isn't like a guideline. My suggestion is to get over yourself. Sythe avoids legal tangles by avoiding any illegal aspects of trade. We are a runescape blackmarket, not Hackforums.

 

[Lilly]

Thanks.

I would like if you added your own opinion to the suggestion.

You obviously have had some issues with users on the website, ranting about imperfections won't change the situation. If you get scammed or infected by another user report them and fix the solution, don't add to it.

This is my opinion.

You're trying to make an argument that a website (Craigslist) has no rules when in-fact they do, as do we.

Our slogan is "The Craigslist of virtual goods" not "We're Craigslist".

We have our set of rules and so do they, no one here knows what items being sold in the marketplace are "duped" or glitched, nor can they control that because the buyer isn't going to make a thread stating he glitches items.

 

[Synful]

Don't agree but, I do think the slogan is pretty cheesy no offense to whom ever thought of it.. It could be something more snazzy though lol.

 

[Steve.FF]

It's a motto. It isn't like a guideline. My suggestion is to get over yourself. Sythe avoids legal tangles by avoiding any illegal aspects of trade. We are a runescape blackmarket, not Hackforums.

What do I have to get over? I'm trying to help the site you moron.

If we don't KNOW there cracked and don't make a big deal about it we avoid legal tangles.


Not to mention Hackfroums has all of that I have yet to see them in a legal tangle.

 

[Lilly]

What do I have to get over? I'm trying to help the site you moron.

If we don't KNOW there cracked and don't make a big deal about it we avoid legal tangles.


Not to mention Hackfroums has all of that I have yet to see them in a legal tangle.

Because you don't agree with someones opinion doesn't mean you can result in flaming.

You're making an argument that Sythe Administrators and Moderators should catch every illegal activity on the site which is impossible, no one can on any community.

Not to mention Hackfroums has all of that I have yet to see them in a legal tangle.

Individual members from HF have been charged with crimes in the past.

 

[Steve.FF]

Because you don't agree with someones opinion doesn't mean you can result in flaming.

You're making an argument that Sythe Administrators and Moderators should catch every illegal activity on the site which is impossible, no one can on any community.



Individual members from HF have been charged with crimes in the past.

I'm saying we should allow it not catch them all.

Individual members can be charged from any forum for anything. You're argument is invalid.

 

[Acubs]

What do I have to get over? I'm trying to help the site you moron.

If we don't KNOW there cracked and don't make a big deal about it we avoid legal tangles.


Not to mention Hackfroums has all of that I have yet to see them in a legal tangle.

Easy there, relax. No need to call other people names. You're coming off as ignorant. If you want to sell cracked shit, go somewhere else to sell it! It's just an extra liability here.

 

[auron is emo]

Selling anything cracked and not getting caught will result in you selling it. If you get caught you are banned. They are not going to allow knowingly cracked recoveries sales because you would profit off of illegal activity(Not illegal on the site... Illegal by the fucking government)

So I do not support.

But the slogan should be changed. I think personally it should be changed once a year.

 

[JamRsPins]

No-one with any reasoned amount of sense is gonna approve of allowing people to sell hacked/stolen crap here.

I don't see how a gold farming operation is any different then account recovering.

So you don't see the difference in earning money, and stealing it? Moron.

 

[FoxTek]

This is just becoming a flame/rant thread..the motto is meant to be fun and catch the 'spirit' of the website, not what the rules are set by. If you don't like it, there are plenty of other forums you could try, Sythe knows what he is doing and trying to keep as little legal confrontation as possible.

While individuals would be charged with crimes I presume that the owners would be notified of such and asked to help in the investigation something I can guarantee that no one wants to do..

TL;DR - go make a thread in spam forum and lets get this locked, going no where.

 

[FireZ]

Locked.

 

Yep the bottom line is that we do have certain legal and moral obligations to our users and hosts.

 

[SuF]

Yep the bottom line is that we do have certain legal and moral obligations to our users and hosts.

We also have moral obligations to not allow people to use our site to profit off of other's property.