Brexit

[Xier0]

using the guide (link I provided)

Since you didn't answer:

Are you implying that that is an all-inclusive list of trade barriers and that in order for regulations to be trade barriers they must be on that list?

Then why haven't they done that?

Haven't done what?

 

Are you implying that that is an all-inclusive list of trade barriers and that in order for regulations to be trade barriers they must be on that list?

To be considered a trade barrier, yes, since the list covers all trade barriers in detail.

Haven't done what?

You're farming post count at this point. Why haven't they traded directly with the countries within the EU?

 

[Xier0]

To be considered a trade barrier, yes, since the list covers all trade barriers in detail.

Your list does not cover all trade barriers. Licenses are not listed, which is the most common type of trade barrier.

Why haven't they traded directly with the countries within the EU?

Businesses in Swizterland DO trade directly with businesses in the EU. The EU is not a middleman, as I proved before.

 

Your list does not cover all trade barriers. Licenses are not listed, which is the most common type of trade barrier.

Would fall under standards.

Businesses in Swizterland DO trade directly with businesses in the EU. The EU is not a middleman, as I proved before.

Outside of the single market? I'd like proof of that.

 

[Xier0]

Would fall under standards.

You are so bad at this:

EU-wide technical and safety standards ensure that if you meet UK standards you'll also meet the standards of other EU countries.

Outside of the single market?

? Businesses trade directly with one another, it doesn't have anything to do with politics.

 

You are so bad at this:

It's funny, standards actually falls under law, now that I'm looking over it again, so you were right, but at the same time you had to come up with something that isn't relevant or proves your point otherwise.

Limiting Trade: Economics Lesson

? Businesses trade directly with one another, it doesn't have anything to do with politics.

Are they not thriving off the EU then? To access their single market, they had to negotiate a deal with the EU.

 

[Xier0]

Are they not thriving off the EU then? To access their single market, they had to negotiate a deal with the EU.

No, because these countries traded before there was an EU. "Negotiating a deal with the EU" only means not having yet ANOTHER trade barrier in the form of a tarriff.

 

No, because these countries traded before there was an EU. "Negotiating a deal with the EU" only means not having yet ANOTHER trade barrier in the form of a tarriff.

You still aren't making sense, nor is that relevant.

The Single Market refers to the EU as one territory without any internal borders or other regulatory obstacles to the free movement of goods and services. A functioning Single Market stimulates competition and trade, improves efficiency, raises quality, and helps cut prices. The European Single Market is one of the EU’s greatest achievements. It has fueled economic growth and made the everyday life of European businesses and consumers easier.

They wouldn't thrive off that, right?

 

[Xier0]

The Single Market refers to the EU as one territory without any internal borders or other regulatory obstacles to the free movement of goods and services.

To put this in practical terms: The EU single market is just an agreement not to have tarriffs between countries that are in the EU.

If the UK leaves the EU, or if the EU completely dissolved and collapsed tomorrow, it does not follow that tarriffs would emerge.

 

To put this in practical terms: The EU single market is just an agreement not to have tarriffs between countries that are in the EU.

If the UK leaves the EU, or if the EU completely dissolved and collapsed tomorrow, it does not follow that tarriffs would emerge.

You're forgetting free movement of capital and services. If the EU was to end, it would most likely lead to tariffs and the rise of other barriers. The single market was designed to make it easier for Europeans to buy and sell things to each other. You eliminate that, and you eliminate ease of access, and other benefits such as freedom of movement. To say tariffs wouldn't be imposed subsequent to EU removal is silly, as it's used for many reasons.

What are common reasons for governments to implement tariffs? | Investopedia

 

[Xier0]

You're forgetting free movement of capital and services. If the EU was to end, it would most likely lead to tariffs and the rise of other barriers. The single market was designed to make it easier for Europeans to buy and sell things to each other. You eliminate that, and you eliminate ease of access, and other benefits such as freedom of movement. To say tariffs wouldn't be imposed subsequent to EU removal is silly, as it's used for many reasons.

What are common reasons for governments to implement tariffs? | Investopedia

You are saying to NOT dissolve the EU, a known barrier to free trade, because of the fear that it might create trade barriers in the form of tarriffs. We already know that many non-EU countries trade with EU countries without tarriffs, and that EU countries trade with other EU countries without tarriffs, it doesn't follow that tarriffs would appear if the known trade barriers of EU regulations were removed.

 

[Jeremih38]

We should never of left the EU.

 

[Jeremih38]

I voted to leave and I'm glad we're most likely going to be leaving. Hopefully it all turns out alright and we make it through the short term struggles everyone knew were going to happen.

*Long Term* Not short term bro lol

 

*Long Term* Not short term bro lol

No, I meant the short term struggles regarding currency depreciation, changes in trade agreements, administration costs and changes in business & employment. I'm not concerned with the long term because we're not going to have any clue how it could turn out until we're in negotiations and see the full impact in the short term.

 

You are saying to NOT dissolve the EU, a known barrier to free trade, because of the fear that it might create trade barriers in the form of tarriffs. We already know that many non-EU countries trade with EU countries without tarriffs, and that EU countries trade with other EU countries without tarriffs, it doesn't follow that tarriffs would appear if the known trade barriers of EU regulations were removed.

I actually never said the EU shouldn't dissolve, nor do I have a say in that. I spoke on the EU's effectiveness when it came to trade. I'm following your hypothetical scenario in what is likely to happen subsequently after termination of the EU. You continue to downplay what the EU has done for trade. You break up the EU, you remove freedom of movement, self-governments create their own policy regarding borders, not following a linear guideline. How do you replicate the process the EU has laid out with that being the case?

 

[Xier0]

I actually never said the EU shouldn't dissolve, nor do I have a say in that. I spoke on the EU's effectiveness when it came to trade. I'm following your hypothetical scenario in what is likely to happen subsequently after termination of the EU. You continue to downplay what the EU has done for trade. You break up the EU, you remove freedom of movement, self-governments create their own policy regarding borders, not following a linear guideline. How do you replicate the process the EU has laid out with that being the case?

You can have closed immigration borders while still having open trade borders.

 

You can have closed immigration borders while still having open trade borders.

Unlikely to see 28 countries with individual governments all having open trade borders.

 

[Xier0]

Unlikely to see 28 countries with individual governments all having open trade borders.

I wouldn't gamble billions of pounds lost to trade regulations, taxes, and a massive bureaucracy on that hollow statement.

 

[Conjuring]

time to invest all my money into RS gold

 

I wouldn't gamble billions of pounds lost to trade regulations, taxes, and a massive bureaucracy on that hollow statement.

What makes the EU work is that those 28 countries follow a linear guideline (legislation), creating a deceptive singular country. Remove that guideline and you have 28 individual countries who can set their own policies. If we're still using logic here, it's unlikely that those 28 individual countries will all decide to open trade borders and allow freedom of movement between their countries without restrictions. Your comment doesn't really have any substance if your goal was to rebut my statement.