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  1. Unread #101 - Jul 1, 2016 at 12:32 AM
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    Since you didn't answer:


    Haven't done what?
     
  3. Unread #102 - Jul 1, 2016 at 12:35 AM
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    To be considered a trade barrier, yes, since the list covers all trade barriers in detail.

    You're farming post count at this point. Why haven't they traded directly with the countries within the EU?
     
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  5. Unread #103 - Jul 1, 2016 at 12:41 AM
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    Your list does not cover all trade barriers. Licenses are not listed, which is the most common type of trade barrier.

    Businesses in Swizterland DO trade directly with businesses in the EU. The EU is not a middleman, as I proved before.
     
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  7. Unread #104 - Jul 1, 2016 at 12:47 AM
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    Would fall under standards.

    Outside of the single market? I'd like proof of that.
     
  9. Unread #105 - Jul 1, 2016 at 12:54 AM
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    You are so bad at this:

    ? Businesses trade directly with one another, it doesn't have anything to do with politics.
     
  11. Unread #106 - Jul 1, 2016 at 1:06 AM
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    It's funny, standards actually falls under law, now that I'm looking over it again, so you were right, but at the same time you had to come up with something that isn't relevant or proves your point otherwise.

    Limiting Trade: Economics Lesson

    Are they not thriving off the EU then? To access their single market, they had to negotiate a deal with the EU.
     
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    No, because these countries traded before there was an EU. "Negotiating a deal with the EU" only means not having yet ANOTHER trade barrier in the form of a tarriff.
     
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    You still aren't making sense, nor is that relevant.

    They wouldn't thrive off that, right?
     
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    To put this in practical terms: The EU single market is just an agreement not to have tarriffs between countries that are in the EU.

    If the UK leaves the EU, or if the EU completely dissolved and collapsed tomorrow, it does not follow that tarriffs would emerge.
     
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    You're forgetting free movement of capital and services. If the EU was to end, it would most likely lead to tariffs and the rise of other barriers. The single market was designed to make it easier for Europeans to buy and sell things to each other. You eliminate that, and you eliminate ease of access, and other benefits such as freedom of movement. To say tariffs wouldn't be imposed subsequent to EU removal is silly, as it's used for many reasons.

    What are common reasons for governments to implement tariffs? | Investopedia
     
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    You are saying to NOT dissolve the EU, a known barrier to free trade, because of the fear that it might create trade barriers in the form of tarriffs. We already know that many non-EU countries trade with EU countries without tarriffs, and that EU countries trade with other EU countries without tarriffs, it doesn't follow that tarriffs would appear if the known trade barriers of EU regulations were removed.
     
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    We should never of left the EU.
     
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    *Long Term* Not short term bro lol
     
  27. Unread #114 - Jul 1, 2016 at 9:08 PM
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    No, I meant the short term struggles regarding currency depreciation, changes in trade agreements, administration costs and changes in business & employment. I'm not concerned with the long term because we're not going to have any clue how it could turn out until we're in negotiations and see the full impact in the short term.
     
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    I actually never said the EU shouldn't dissolve, nor do I have a say in that. I spoke on the EU's effectiveness when it came to trade. I'm following your hypothetical scenario in what is likely to happen subsequently after termination of the EU. You continue to downplay what the EU has done for trade. You break up the EU, you remove freedom of movement, self-governments create their own policy regarding borders, not following a linear guideline. How do you replicate the process the EU has laid out with that being the case?
     
  31. Unread #116 - Jul 1, 2016 at 11:03 PM
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    You can have closed immigration borders while still having open trade borders.
     
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    Unlikely to see 28 countries with individual governments all having open trade borders.
     
  35. Unread #118 - Jul 2, 2016 at 12:30 AM
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    I wouldn't gamble billions of pounds lost to trade regulations, taxes, and a massive bureaucracy on that hollow statement.
     
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    time to invest all my money into RS gold
     
  39. Unread #120 - Jul 2, 2016 at 12:11 PM
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    What makes the EU work is that those 28 countries follow a linear guideline (legislation), creating a deceptive singular country. Remove that guideline and you have 28 individual countries who can set their own policies. If we're still using logic here, it's unlikely that those 28 individual countries will all decide to open trade borders and allow freedom of movement between their countries without restrictions. Your comment doesn't really have any substance if your goal was to rebut my statement.
     
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