Binary logic, the key for agreement?

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Binary logic, the key for agreement?
  1. Unread #1 - May 22, 2009 at 7:55 PM
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    Binary logic, the key for agreement?

    What our society is lacking today is a basis of agreement. No one agrees on anything, even if they are wrong. People are arguing against each other and taking defensive stances when instead they should be on the same team compromising towards a solution. This arguing thing only leaves both sides in dismay and solves nothing. Look at any news channel and see how often a political argument ends with a compromise that both sides agree on?

    I have been in many arguments with people and have witnessed tons of irrational points of views. No matter how much I tried to compromise and pointed out the fault in other people's logic, those people didn't stand down and only wanted it their way and their way only. So I then concluded that some people simply aren't capable of deep thought and to take all variables into account which leads to logical fallacies, and which eventually leads to wars. This is the main problem with democracy, it doesn't work with a retarded citizen rate.

    Binary logic is processing with two options, 1 or 0, yes or no. With arguments involving ethics and morals, I believe we can find without a shadow of a doubt what the right thing to do is. Just like there is no doubt that 2+2=4, I believe we can have no doubt about what seems right and wrong in politics and in life. Right now, these principles are only applied to mathematics, but what is mathematics? It is the science of structure, order, and relation. And most of us can agree that the world today is nearly completely void of structure and order. But what if these principles were applied to logic and real life?

    All there is now is a bunch of irrational arguing between people, which always leads to nothing. It is no secret that in an argument, rarely does someone admit that they are wrong. Especially in the highest level of argument, politics, admitting defeat could cost a candidate a seat in the house or senate. If someone admits that they are wrong, people would rely less on them, and in result not vote for them. Therefore politicians rarely admit they are wrong, no matter how wrong they are for the sake of their career. But what if we needed not to rely on a person in this situation, but instead on a set of ideas that already answered all of these questions. A Philosophical framework, sort of like a constitution of logic, that explains what is the right way of thinking and thought processing. We can teach this in school, so our kids can learn how to not make stupid decisions and make logical mistakes, like "jumping to conclusion" and "missing the big picture."

    Practicing decision theory in stimulated economic environments would let people make much better decisions in their life, and in result live a much better life. Formal education today is a bunch of crap, all that is exercised is simple memorization and test taking skills, which is again, a bunch of CRAP. The brain is capable of so much more than that, but of course knowledge is power, and if the world leaders let us acquire this power, they would most likely be booted out.

    But back to the education reform and the constitution. These ideas would have to be taught to every human, to prevent from only the select few who could understand these ideas of changing the constitution for their own good, like the top political leaders of today screw over its citizens out of all their money and freedom. We all know that knowledge is power, and since everyone would have this knowledge, the chances of the rich taking over the government and enslaving the people would be very poor.

    The ultimate truth would finally be known, political arguments would be diffused, and people would know how to better interact with each other, all with a simple understanding of thought processes.
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    Binary logic, the key for agreement?

    Someone been watching the matrix a little to much, what your saying really makes no sense at all. Your talking about what if people were like binary logic well that wouldn't happen due to free thought so basically everything you just wrote is a bunch of random crap.

    You say your pointing out peoples faults, Yours is obviously that you have to much time on your hands.

    Also binary gate logic(im guessing this is what your referring to) does work as you say but you have put it in a completely bullshit way imo.
     
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    Binary logic, the key for agreement?

    Wow, this is such a well thought out idea. I agree with this fully. There SHOULD be guidelines applied/taught to each and every person. It would rid the world of difference yes, and let people collaborate for pure advancement in all fields. It would be....well...>.> not to sound lame but a 'perfect world' and we are simply only humans. There would also be no competition, every person would almost have to be defined as better than a certain amount of people and etc. based on how more 'right' (intelligent) they are. There would still be what hinders us as it always has, jealousy, for you would know who you were better than.

    We are too different and diffused as a species these days to adopt as a whole these kinds of ideals. Imagine if we adopted a new set of rules that defined who lives and who isn't worth saving. Math is also a set of guidelines that we made up that defines the world around us and how it works. We can't apply it to ourselves.
     
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    Binary logic, the key for agreement?

    No, actually that is not what I am talking about at all. What I mean is to create a guide to avoid irrational thinking, so shit like racism and torture doesn't happen. People would be able to look at this guide and realize that this is the right way of thinking, and people would be able to use the guide for a basis of agreement. Instead of simply saying "this is right because more people agree with it" (and what if all of those people who are agreeing are thinking illogically? for example what if all of them are white and think whites are better than blacks?) then you would be able to use the guide as a mantle to point out irrationalities in people's thinking.

    And you completely missed the point of what I meant by binary logic. If you look at a political debate, nothing ever fucking gets solved, am I right? There is no compromise, because people are so clinging to their beliefs that everyone thinks they are right. But that can't necessarily happen, someone's gotta be right and someone's gotta be wrong, or one slightly more right or wrong than the other. Plus we notice tons of irrationalities in our leader's ideas, just look at any of George W. Bush's speeches and you can probably find a few. So what if there was a guide to rational thinking, that definitively showed what is the right way of thinking i.e. unbiased, etc. And instead of debating and arguing, which doesn't solve anything, people can follow the guide to work together to make compromises. And if something gets off track, they can correct themselves with the guide.

    Why is having too much time on my hands a fault? And who are you to judge how I spend my time?

    But anyways, I am on summer vacation so I have all the time in the world to be thinking about this stuff.

    The way I see it is, instead of the bullshit classes taught in our schools today, that only practices memorization and test taking skills, there would be more morals and logistics taught. These classes would teach kids how to think deeper and deconstruct situations to find solutions to problems. So basically people would be able to think better and make more rational decisions in life. Crime would probably go down, teenage pregnancies would decrease, politicians wouldn't be able to screw people into voting for something because the people would be able to see that they are trying to screw them over, debt would go down because people would be more careful with their finances, and there would probably be less fighting and less wars, there is a famous phrase that states "you can't think and punch at the same time". Instead of flat thinking, like going with the first thing that comes to your mind, people go deeper than that and analyze outcomes and situations, and ask the question "what if?" they would be much more capable of understanding this complex world that we live in today.

    I don't think that there will ever be a "perfect world," but we definitely have come a long way since barbaric times. Only 50 years ago we finally achieved civil rights for all people. We'll probably never achieve a perfect world, but we can probably get really close to it.
     
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