Best bot to use?

Can we stop all the talk about one being better than other.
Trent! RiD is cool, Simba is Cool, stop saying RiD is SOOO MUUUCH BEEETER for some reason, because it's no more special than simba.

Yeah All of RiD scripts are made by one guy that is really good, and Simba scripts are made by all kinds of people both noobs and good programers but that's not really an argument saying that Simba is bad.... Just only use the good scripts....

RiD has nothing super flippin duper compared to Simba they both work well (Never used RiD though ) and get the job done, so stop saying RiD is some kind of a masterpiece compared to Simba because it's not!

 

No one can deny that botting ruins the game. It saps the fun for botters and legit players alike. But what makes RiD worse than scar/cheatah/rsbot/rsbuddy is that it has created a one sided cash-flow that gives nothing to its community.

The only thing RiD has to brag about is "100% safety"
I like risk.
I like pushing the limits.

The only fun I used to find in botting was bragging rights. The only thing you can brag about is how many credits you've bought.

 

If you bot safely, and controlled, you are fine and the game stays in a good equilibrium.

All of the Java Bots ruined this by being so easy to use/free (even paid) and the users just raped the game.

Botting with control doesn't ruin anything and is fine.

Simba is just as safe/undetectable as RiD is.

It's bugging me Trent is calling it superior when they are =

 

Just for old times sake <3
I will consider them both equally useless till they begin to meet the quality of bots pre-nuke.





lets all post our old proggies so that we can all agree on something.

 

:/ Unrelated to the thread...
Color Bots Will Never be as powerful as Java (in SOME aspects).
Those days are gone, but OGL might bring them back.

 

I think that there will always be potential for advancement. A year ago any of the proggies above would be absurd yet at peak they became common.

I do tend to lean towards Simba simply due to the fact that it has room for growth. Yet I think the better bot will take time to rise above the other.

 

Yeah there will, but something like a Dung bot will never be made with all color.

And no one has to be better than the other or rise above, both have a huge userbase and happy users. They both seem fine!

I just don't like the false claims.

 

I thought that color + 3d model reads with enough coding would eventually allow for dungeoneering and other complex tasks.

I don't know if 3d modeling is a real base for botting but I remember reading about it somewhere on here. Maybe it was just another claim without a backbone.

 

OGL (Open GL) will probably allow for it, people like to trow around big crazy words sometimes to be cool.
OGL should be as powerful as Java bots were since it can ID items/NPCs/etc.

Except I bet Jagex could just remove OGL option from game and kill them..

 

I heard something about modeling bots working much like color bots. The bot identifies an assortment of items from a database by a mix between shape and color. Sounds good in theory but I don't think anyone has really put in any thought beyond that.

 

That would be difficult if they are coding based on OGL. It would really limit their abilities on making the graphics any better.

 

The problem would probably escalate for a year and then they would actually put some effort into resolving it.

 

So RID is a autoclicker yes?

Members =/= users. Do you have the count? Can you track everyone using Simba? - no...

Your comparing vets to all users of Simba.

16,000 hours that's it? My smelter alone does 2500+ a day. The stats at SRL are doing 11k+ hours a day - http://stats.villavu.com/graph/commits/type/minutes

But you just said 1 ban for every 16,000 hours? (notes the above 11,000+ hours a day)

 

1) Arguing which bot is more advanced is pointless because its a matter of opinion when it comes down to it. From the RID people you will have the whole "it has human mouse movements, unique styles etc etc" argument, from SRL you'll have "its minimizeable and open source" argument. Its pointless to argue which one is more advanced.

2) Well RiD has a good understanding of the detection process and has done everything possible to circumnavigate it. Like it's been stated in this thread both bots dont really have a ban rate until you get reported, with RiD you can get reported numerous times and you will still not be banned, granted you are not breaking guidelines, with simba it would depend on how good the script is.

He said that those that are banned are guideline breakers, you obviously didn't read anything he posted.

 

This is weak, any other thread with anyone not deeply involved in the SRL community you would still be saying that RiD was the closest thing to human until they create androids. (Not the phone) The only thing your bot tries to sell itself as is humanlike but once it is proven that that statement is false what other selling point does your bot have? The bot will never be human like because no matter how you do it you will always be going through the exact same processes over and over. Humans err and humans change the way things are done, they aren't predictable. A bot is always going to be predictable.

All of these threads are ridiculous now. It's like right after the bot nuke when all of the people from RiD started trolling about how their bot has never been banned, but oh - now they get a a ban ever 16,000 hours... I am sure bullshit stats are bullshit.

This has really gone far enough.

 

You obviously can't read, the bot is undetectable if you follow guidelines, and we have had 0 bans since 2008 for those who follow guidelins, the 37 total bans we have had in the past 4 years is from guideline breakers. I agree though, its kind of useless to keep arguing about whose bot is better than whose because in the end it becomes a "whos got a bigger penis" competition which doesn't benefit anyone except the trolls (paranormal).

 

Well that was a really low thing to say mate. :/ I sure hope all of the RiD member don't act like this...

Anywho, Edward, is there a statistical graph or time records we could publicly view on how many total hours are spent by all users of RiD by the hour/day/month/all time? It's nice to see things like that, I'm sure you can appreciate that request.

 

Yes, as I said above, the only bans we've had were manual bans from J Mod sweeps manually searching for excessive guideline breakers. All guideline followers, and even most of the slight guideline breakers, were completely fine. The guidelines make perfect sense as to why they protect your account when paired with RiD. Yes you can lower your chances when using other bots by following RiD's Guidelines, but the fact of the matter is that it is detectable.

Here's my quote I posted on that thread linked above:

On the OGL side of things, OpenGL interception is actually extremely in conflict with the DMCA. Jagex sued Impsoft for breaching the DMCA, and OGL is actually worse than reflection was. Expect any functioning OGL sites to be shut down by Jagex.

Also, Optimus is a new anti-bot update. I know a bit about it, but can't say much for the time being. Let's just say Powerbot and the like will not be back any time soon.

RiD plans to implement a feature to the site that will display the number of hours botted by the community, and number of bans from Guideline followers (0) and number of bans from Guideline breakers (37).

You have all proven to be so ignorant as to show multiple times that you are simply ignoring my perfectly valid, and repeatedly stated facts. All you're doing is reading two or three lines and rebuttaling with more ignorantly strewn bullshit. Try actually rebuttalling with actual facts, and not deflective fallacies

 

How was that a low thing to say? I think you must have misread it . I was saying we need to stop the talk of "oh rid is better" and "oh simba is better" because it honestly isn't going to go anywhere and is not going to change anyone's mind.

As for a statistical graph etc the only feature we have at the moment is the top botters of the day on our forum. RiD is planning to add a total hours botted counter soon as well as creating dynamic sigs for users to display their hours botted.

 

Then I would already lose chance of becoming player mod...? Or should I write a letter to jagex saying that it wasn't me swearing...?

There is no reason to flame... Because I can just report your flaming posts... But I am not going to do that, I am nice guy .