Believers in God

Ask something new instead of the same damn question over and over..
Ok, think about this, do you think life for any human would be interesting without anything to fear, expect, surprise? Yeah, I'm pretty sure the natural disasters are just to experience some of those emotions. I'm pretty sure God doesn't want human beings bored, or think, hey there is no risk to anything. Also, God is everything in the universe, so even the bad (as we think) can be in God.

 

I don't know what kind of response that was but it had little relevance to my original question, like I said, I'm not disproving religion or questioning the existence of god. I asked how he can justify killing thousands of people.

 

God gives us freedom. We can make our own decisions but they all have consequences. The people in 3rd world countries are suffering now but later on when they die god is going to recognize there suffering and bring them into heaven. As as for the natural disaster, they are "natural" its part of the world god made. It's called the circle of life and in that circle there is sometimes things that prevent lives from continuing (murder, disease etc.)

the beatitudes.:

Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called sons of God.
Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you

 

God doesn't have to justify himself or any of His actions. It could be a test or anything, but simple questions like that are the least of concerns to those who believe in Him.

 

Very good response, Trippy Dream!

 

People dying are not from God's actions. It is in every living thing's nature to die at some point. No one, or no breathing thing can live forever. Natural disasters probably got their name because they're nature. You can't control science, God does not choose how fast wind blows, or how much rain there is, or anything of that.

 

Go read the bible please, god can control everything listed, according to the book of course.

 

Of course he could control it, but doing so would mean the revoking of our free will. God doesn't want that.

 

im Catholic Christian. There are people who are called 'Biblicists' (i think thats the word) that believe everything from the bible. They don't believe in the big bang. The think that God makes natural disasters to test out faith.

 

"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant
character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust,
unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser;
a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal,
pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously
malevolent bully."
Does this answer your question? He does not justify Himself. Rather; I should say a God such as this one does not deserve worship. Each and one of the above descriptions can be supported biblically.

 

How about the part in the Bible where God killed a lot of people?
>.>

 

Free will can not exist alongside an omnipotent omnicient being.
In fact the whole theory that god created earth as a test for the afterlife is laughable, seeing as god already knows what is inside each mans heart, and already knows every choice you are going to make before time..
He could sentence you to heaven or hell the moment he creates you good or bad enough for either one.

 

People who say things like "It's human nature, God can't control it," are simply disproving God's existence.

For arguments sake, God created all that exists. He can't create a human without also making that human think/act a certain way, or the person would be a vegetable. This means that it was God's intention for us to be the way we are. In other words, God is fine with us having mental illnesses, genocide, poverty, and racism.

If you disagree with the above paragraph, you're disproving the existence of your God.

 

Except those people aren't Muslim. All over the Quran and Hadith (sayings of Prophet Muhammad) it's stated to NEVER harm civilians, to NEVER commit suicide. Stoning isn't used for religious disobedience but as a punishment for adultery. Want citations?

Christianity has it's fair share of extremists, as do many other religious factions.

 

Don't bullshit me. What is the Muslim punishment for apostasy? Want citations? What is the Muslim punishment for homosexuality? Want references?
If you cannot offer anything intellectually justifiable, then stay away from this part of the forums.

 

It's simple. God doesn't interfere. What is life? It's only a stage of your existance, and a short one at that. Think of eternity. If a soul is everlasting (like I believe) Your mortal life is nothing. That is probably why God justifies it.

 

Please present your arguments logically. Simply saying 'I believe something' does not constitute a valid point.

 

By all means I am not a religous person but I am simply looking at this from a scientific stand point. If no one had ever died on earth then we would have ran out of food and resources a long long time ago and eventually we would be destoying our world. So is god to say that a human life is more precious then every organism on our planet? At some point some of us have to go it's kinda the damned if you don't and damned if you do for gods decisions