Behold a Pale Horse

[Valkirk]

Hey guys, I just finished reading this book by William Cooper. I've never been too big on conspiracy theories, but a good friend of mine recommended that I read this book. I really took my time reading this, and the theory that really caught my attention was the topic which he wrote about HIV/AIDS being a man made disease. I've pondered on that a bit, and I can actually say that I believe the same thing now. I know that most governments create diseases like this as a population control strategy. I can actually see where he's coming from on this. I don't really want to elaborate too much on this because I don't want to offend anyone that is reading this thread. But in my opinion William Cooper is brilliant. His views on things are so realistic, and can be backed up with good points and arguments.

Has anyone else read this book?

 

[Shredderbeam]

Hey guys, I just finished reading this book by William Cooper. I've never been too big on conspiracy theories, but a good friend of mine recommended that I read this book. I really took my time reading this, and the theory that really caught my attention was the topic which he wrote about HIV/AIDS being a man made disease. I've pondered on that a bit, and I can actually say that I believe the same thing now. I know that most governments create diseases like this as a population control strategy. I can actually see where he's coming from on this. I don't really want to elaborate too much on this because I don't want to offend anyone that is reading this thread. But in my opinion William Cooper is brilliant. His views on things are so realistic, and can be backed up with good points and arguments.

Has anyone else read this book?

It doesn't matter whether or not you want to discuss something. As you no doubt know, this IS a debate forum, not a "have you read this book" forum, so obviously people are free to challenge you on anything you post.

What on Earth makes you think that the HIV virus is man-made? Why do you think that most governments invent diseases? Do you have any sort of background in medicine, biology, epidemiology, chemistry, engineering, etc. that would lend your opinion any credence? No offense, but for all I know, you could be a bricklayer, or an electrician. Can you justify your beliefs?

 

[Valkirk]

It doesn't matter whether or not you want to discuss something. As you no doubt know, this IS a debate forum, not a "have you read this book" forum, so obviously people are free to challenge you on anything you post.

What on Earth makes you think that the HIV virus is man-made? Why do you think that most governments invent diseases? Do you have any sort of background in medicine, biology, epidemiology, chemistry, engineering, etc. that would lend your opinion any credence? No offense, but for all I know, you could be a bricklayer, or an electrician. Can you justify your beliefs?

Like I said in my post, I believe the government makes diseases as a population control. Like what William Cooper wrote in his book. The government created HIV/AIDS as a way to reduce the homosexuals. I personally have NO problem with these people, but that’s what he said in the book. And honestly I can believe that. Then when having read this, I thought back on the Ebola virus. One day it’s a HUGE epidemic... and the next day it’s just gone... what about the Zika?? It just disappeared... I honestly believe it’s all man made. Now, back to your post... where did I say anything about not wanting to discuss something?? I didn’t. I stated that I don’t want to offend anybody with what I post. So I kept it clean. You CLEARLY didn’t pay attention to the thread. I’m not a doctor, NOR do I have any desire to be in the medical field. I was simply stating that I really enjoyed reading this book. William Cooper is a conspiracy theorist. Nothing more. You, sir, took this thread WAY out of context.

 

[Shredderbeam]

Like I said in my post, I believe the government makes diseases as a population control. Like what William Cooper wrote in his book. The government created HIV/AIDS as a way to reduce the homosexuals. I personally have NO problem with these people, but that’s what he said in the book. And honestly I can believe that. Then when having read this, I thought back on the Ebola virus. One day it’s a HUGE epidemic... and the next day it’s just gone... what about the Zika?? It just disappeared... I honestly believe it’s all man made. Now, back to your post... where did I say anything about not wanting to discuss something?? I didn’t. I stated that I don’t want to offend anybody with what I post. So I kept it clean. You CLEARLY didn’t pay attention to the thread. I’m not a doctor, NOR do I have any desire to be in the medical field. I was simply stating that I really enjoyed reading this book. William Cooper is a conspiracy theorist. Nothing more. You, sir, took this thread WAY out of context.

I took nothing out of context. I asked you a question that you didn't answer. I'll repeat myself:

What on Earth makes you think that the HIV virus is man-made? Why do you think that most governments invent diseases? Do you have any sort of background in medicine, biology, epidemiology, chemistry, engineering, etc. that would lend your opinion any credence? No offense, but for all I know, you could be a bricklayer, or an electrician. Can you justify your beliefs?

 

[Valkirk]

I took nothing out of context. I asked you a question that you didn't answer. I'll repeat myself:

What on Earth makes you think that the HIV virus is man-made? Why do you think that most governments invent diseases? Do you have any sort of background in medicine, biology, epidemiology, chemistry, engineering, etc. that would lend your opinion any credence? No offense, but for all I know, you could be a bricklayer, or an electrician. Can you justify your beliefs?

I have NO background in the medical field, so my beliefs cannot be backed up that way. What I believe is simply what I believe and there will always be someone there to argue with me. Which is fine. But I just believe that the HIV virus is a man made disease. Along with many other diseases. Made for population control. I’ve read in an article somewhere where they said that the virus WAS found among men who have had sex with other men. But they also said that the virus was first found in a man that contracted the disease while in the Congo from the chimpanzees. So my thought was, if it could only be contracted through blood, sex, etc, then it really should have stopped with that one man that first had it. I could see the government taking the mans blood, running test on different test subjects and then figuring out that it could be used as population control.

That’s all I have. Call me stupid, whatever you want. That’s just how I see it.

 

[Shredderbeam]

I have NO background in the medical field, so my beliefs cannot be backed up that way.

When you say "that way", do you mean the only possible way it could be backed up?

What I believe is simply what I believe and there will always be someone there to argue with me. Which is fine. But I just believe that the HIV virus is a man made disease. Along with many other diseases. Made for population control. I’ve read in an article somewhere where they said that the virus WAS found among men who have had sex with other men. But they also said that the virus was first found in a man that contracted the disease while in the Congo from the chimpanzees. So my thought was, if it could only be contracted through blood, sex, etc, then it really should have stopped with that one man that first had it.

Why would it stop with that first man? If it can be transmitted sexually, can you not imagine the man having sex with somebody and transmitting it to them?

I could see the government taking the mans blood, running test on different test subjects and then figuring out that it could be used as population control.

That’s all I have. Call me stupid, whatever you want. That’s just how I see it.

Oh I can absolutely see most governments doing that too, but being able to imagine something happening isn't the same thing as something actually happening.