What does evryone think about Arena 51 or Roswell?

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Alians are real.
If not what the fuck else could they be hiding?
YOu do know if you personally were to be seen in a 200 mile radius of area 51 you would be shot on site?

Do you know WHY they are riding it for?
Obv reasons..

1) WORLD OUTBREAK
2) ^ TO MUCH CRAZY reactions would happen that the government can't handle
3) The Government and Military would be overthrown for such a HUGH lye!

+ more..

You do know ppl that actually know and are able to enter Area 51; if they were to tell anyone just a little detail; the government would find them and kill them on spot and make it look like he disappeared.

I wonder why?

 

Well i have been watching alot of documentary about this, and indeed old people who worked there for years talking about weird things that are happening there! Would be weird for a 80 year old man to lie about such a thing.

 

IKR! I'm not scared at the fact that in my mind I have 100% sure that aliens are real.

There's a movie that is based on real events.. It's about a guy that one day is abducted, everyone searches ect but theres no trace of him for months. Then one day someone finds him naked in the rain. He remembers what happened but is to mind fucked to even speak! Sorta like he was threw some HARD SHIT and he's like you know? Well he describes everything that happened to him and such. As for the based on true events.. he really did disappear for months, and he really was found naked. He was found disorainted and scared about EVERYTHING. After a few months though he recovers and tells everyone what happened. He did have cuts where he said they stuck him at ect.

Sorry for that big wall of text, but you HAVE to see this movie and read about it!

It's called Fire in the sky. Not only is this based on true events but the movie itself is amazing!

 

This is ridiculous and you are making outrageous claims. There is a highway that runs 30 miles outside of Area 51 so no that 200 mile radius is wrong. 200 miles puts you in the next state! Secondly, yes, I have no doubt there are secrets in Area 51 but aliens are not one of them. I do believe there are other life forms out in the universe but none have visited our planet yet (unless they are too small to see.) The government uses Area 51 to develop top secret military equipment and test controversial drugs, remedies,tests, etc. Aliens are a little too far fetched and word would have gotten out after 50+ years.

Sounds like a guy on a bad acid trip to me. People make up crazy things all the time to get media attention. (I.E. May 21st, 2011 doomsday).

 

How's the movie called about the real facts?

 

Warning, long ass post ahead.

There were topics about Area 51 & Roswell in General Discussion / Off-Topic not that long ago and apparently my posts have been deleted (I was going to copy and paste) not sure why but whatevs, I'll retype it. I do want to forewarn that I am in no way condemning alien life. Read on.

Aliens have NOT visited the Earth.. or at least we have NEVER captured them.. but most likely we haven't had any visitors. When you think of the unimaginably large distances an alien civilization would have to travel to make it to Earth, it becomes obvious.. but before we get to that, let me give you some figures.

• Light travels at 186,000 miles PER SECOND in a vacuum (~300,000 km/s)
• Light speed is the ultimate universal speed limit, you can not go faster than light no matter how much you try. In fact, actual light speed itself is at the very least an improbability in and of itself, because it requires an infinite amount of energy to move anything with mass at the speed of light

Now, our universe is about 14 BILLION light years across. A light year for anyone who is unaware is a measure of distance equating to the distance light travels in one year. That's one entire year of traveling at 186,000 miles PER SECOND. That's a pretty damn big distance. Life in our universe is most definitely out there. There's almost no denying that when you think about the sheer mathematical odds.. hell, there could even be life in our own solar system (extremophials (sp), definitely nothing advanced obviously).. but the time it takes for a civilization to sufficiently advance in order to make the long haul here is just a huge improbability. Life on Earth has been evolving for roughly 3.6 billion years, and how far have we come really? We're not even on Michio Kaku's universal civilization scale.

There's 3 types of civilizations:

• Type 1 - planetary, meaning it controls many/all of the planetary processes
• Type 2 - solar, able to harness the power of their parent star/neighboring planets
• Type 3 - interstellar/multistellar, meaning it can control multiple star systems and eventually the entire parent galaxy

What do we rank as? Type 0, we can't do any of the above.. and we've had 3.6 billion years to evolve. Granted there have been some bumps along the way, but even assuming that we had started out fresh with no interruptions along the way, the civilization would have to be MILLIONS times more advanced than us. Billions of years of uninterrupted evolution.. it's just NOT likely, and while I'm sure there are some pretty advanced civilizations out there, the idea that they would be close enough to us to make any sort of trip here, even at light speed, is even more improbable.

Furthermore, what would a civilization that much more advanced have to gain by paying us a visit? Additionally, let's assume for whatever reason they do decide to come to Earth. If we are billions of years behind these aliens and are already developing cloaking technology do you really think that they would not also possess this technology? Why would the openly expose themselves to us if we're obviously hostile? Also I'd like to point out that if a ship/civilization is advanced enough to make the long haul here, it is advanced enough to withstand anything we could throw at it and surely would not crash and give us the opportunity to reverse engineer it. I'm not saying these things would be impossible to kill, but it'd be like cavemen going up against an armored tank of modern day. They can try all they want, but there would be nothing in their arsenal capable of taking it out. Then let's assume that somehow we DID manage to capture an alien ship with an alien on board and did do tests and shit on it like Area 51 theorists claim. Would this not be seen as an act of war? Do I need to reiterate the vast advantages they would have over us? They would probably be capable of Star Wars type Death Star attacks, annihilating entire planets, maybe even on a grander scale if they really wanted to.

 

Ofc they are real

 

Yeah, back when Area 51 was open you would have been shot on site for stepping even an inch past the boundaries. Nowadays, however, you would not because the base has relocated (it relocated SEVERAL years ago, I might add)

2 points to the person that can tell me which location(S) Area 51 relocated to for continuation of more "discreet" research (which it obviously worked for the discreet part, because you guys didn't know it moved ).

I could sling all sorts of paranoid theories that I share with some people, but the whole "Area 51" still being a hot-spot thing got me off track lol.

 

A bunch of bogus.

 

It seems like you know where you talking about.

 

HAHAHAHAHAHA alians!

 

With that being said, Is it possible to make an object move faster then its terminal volacity? like theoretically if you dropped a brick out of a plane and put say 50+ bottle rockets onto it and set it to ignite when it did reach terminal volacity would it move any faster???

 

Here's a pretty cool link on area 51 I guess
I honestly don't believe in alien craft , but then again I don't know much about Area 51.
http://science.howstuffworks.com/space/aliens-ufos/area-51.htm

 

Of course it would move faster if you attached some sort of propulsion system to it. Terminal velocity isn't the maximum speed something can move at, it's just the peak speed at which the only acting force is gravity. I probably worded that really badly, but I think you can see the point.

Also if you're suggesting we strap bottle rockets to light in order to boost it up I'd like to hear your plan for that one hahaha XD

 

=P That's what I was thinking but I don't know shit about physics =P.

 

Yes it is possible to make something go faster than terminal velocity, but light isn't effected by air resistance so that doesn't make much sense. Light travels as a constant speed anywhere in the universe (unless acted upon by a black hole, worm hole, etc.). Take an object and try to get near the speed of light, and it just isn't feasible. Once you approach the speed of light your acceleration declines. This is because once past the speed of light everything as we know it is obsolete. Gravity, time, molecules, etc, are all obsolete and you would in essence fall apart. As you approach the speed of light time gets slower and slower, so your acceleration becomes slower and slower, dissipating to almost nothing. So currently with our technology it would still take millions years to get from galaxy to galaxy.

 

Side note, light only travels at it's peak velocity when in a vacuum . Quite logically you can just look at it as if it has to pass through something it obviously is going to take a longer time to make it through. Also your thing with approaching the speed of light slowing your acceleration (which I'm assuming you think equals speed) makes no sense. You can't be approaching a certain speed and at the same time slowing down. The only way I can make sense of what you're saying is if you do understand that acceleration is increasing speed, in which case obviously as you get closer and closer to the speed of light you need more and more energy, until at the speed of light you require literally infinite energy, which is impossible. Time and speed are not one in the same, btw and I do recognize that time slows down at near light speed travel (time dilation FTW) but since time and speed are not the same property, your example still doesn't make sense.

I understand and agree with the main point of your post (taking millions of years to get here etc) but I'm just curious as to how you came to those conclusions lol

 

This thread is getting intrested =D
ike it howmuch everyone posts in it.