Satanism is drawing me in...

Well, I've been reading the satanic bible lately. I can't say I disagree with whats in it. It makes complete sense. Also, it is definatly not what I expected. Go read it. XD
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Maybe. I doubt they'd have it at my local library so I'll have to confront the librarians about reading the Satanic Bible and that's just not something I'm interested in. If you want a good read along with religion, might I suggest Wiccan or Alchemy. Yes Alchemy is a study with religion

 

hmm might read it just my parents might have an issue with the whole satan thing

 

gnosticism makes the most sense to me really. im not really up on any satanic stuff. maybe ill check it out.

but demian is literally my favorite book. you should read it.

 

Hmmmmm whats the Satan bible about anyway? Is it like the bible how the first 300 pages is who begot who?

Also Atreyu is an awesome band.

 

Yeah, I'm gonna preach since you've told us to go read that garbage. You need to stop listening to Atreyu and basking in this lameness for the sake of having something you read "make the most sense". I could read an essay, say it make sense, and agree with the writer when in reality, it could be completely and utterly false or just plain stupid.

This reminds me of people being athiests for the sake of being athiest, unlike Shredderbeam who simply needs hard core proof for anything to exist.

From a sociological point of view, your view(s) seem to revolve around society and the fact that it's now "in" to have these views.

Get off the computer once in a while and take a walk around the block and SERIOUSLY ponder life.

 

Satanism, Christianity, paganism...please go by what the evidence suggests instead.

 

That's quite interesting but I don't believe in God, Satan, Angels that have no evidence of existance, and no, the bible is not proof of existance.
I'd need to research more into this whole satanic bible and religon but if it includes anything involving non logical things, I'll give up on it, but I'll read the whole wikipedia page and if I'm intrigued I might go out and get the bible to learn more, but if it involves praising, fuck it.

 

Just another equally irrational and equally fucked up religion IMO. And Atreyu sucks, I don't know what Tyson's talking about lol. Just playing. Sort of.

But seriously, why waste your time and indulge your mind into such utter bullshit?

 

Follow your own religion.

 

Lawl. I can tell your a hardcore satanist just trying to get some simple minded teens to follow your bullshit.

 

Lawl.
"Well, I've been reading the satanic bible lately. I can't say I disagree with whats in it. It makes complete sense. Also, it is definatly not what I expected. Go read it. XD".
This failed. If you want us to read it, tell us about it, is it logical?

 

Fail @ both of you for assuming Satanism is about worshiping Satan as a deity, and that Satanism is a monotheistic religion. Satanism is about worshiping yourself as a god. It's like a darker version of buddism and Wicca, a philosphy/way of life, and there's nothing supernatural to it. You see yourself as Satan, not because you're a childmolesting animal-raper, but because you focus on your own well-being and you do not associate yourself with Christianity/Islam/Judaism. All Satanists who follow this system are atheists/agnostics/non-religious people. The Satanic Bible was written by an atheist named Anton LaVey in 1969. It's actually a very open-minded, interesting read. I'm not a satanist myself though.

What I especially loved about The Satanic Bible is that pretty much all of mankind follows the rules of it, without knowing it. Even Christians, Catholics, etc.

I'm going to copy&paste the basics of Satanism here:

Satanism represents:
1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence.
- Pretty simple to understand... Does it feel good? Then do it!

2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams.
- This is probably one of the most "realistic" statements... It points out that this is the here and now, why bother HOPING you'll go to "Heaven" (Or any other kind of spiritual utopia) when our time is now, in this materialistic realm.

3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit.
- Undefiled wisdom being what you learn through an open, clear-headed mind and being blatantly honest. An example of Hypocritical self-deciet, would be a Christian husband, who beats his wife and kids, goes to Church to renounce his sins, only to come back home and start laying into his family once again. Thus in essense lying to himself. Hypocrisy and self-deception in other words, are NOT welcomed among Satanists.

4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates.- Another simple one, maybe you're all familiar with, "Do unto those as you'd wish them to do unto you", this is pretty much the opposite, respect those who respect you and have proven to be worthy of one's respect.

5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek.
- Simple. Someone gets in your way, attacks you whatever... Retaliate in return. A code of ethics that most people tend to follow when provoked, regardless of religion.

6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires.
- Firstly, "psychic vampires" are those whom you'd classify as a waste of time/effort and so forth... They are small people who feed upon YOUR time, YOUR efforts and YOUR energy. Those whom shower you with gifts, don't say a word BUT believe that you owe them. (I hope that makes sense.) The sixth statement is basically saying that if you are the perpetrature of an event, that you MUST accept the responsibility instead of passing it along. (Think along the lines of a murderer who's defense is, "The devil made me do it.")

7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all.
- Through self-deception humans seem to have forgotten that we are indeed just animals... We may walk on two legs, we may be smart/spiritual/organized and so forth, yet we are STILL just animals... But due to the developement of our minds and understanding we are capable of being the most vicious of animals. Very true statement, only the human animal is capable of waging war, mass murder and such, animals only kill for survival but we are somewhat sadistic in killing.

8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification.
- 8. Links along with the first statement... This refers to the Seven Deadly Sins in Christianity; Anger, gluttony, lust, greed, jealousy, etc. Indulgence is the key! Not abstinence nor compulsion.

9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!
- We all know this last statement is true, without the threat of brimstone and eternal damnation, the Church would be a cult instead of a world-wide religion.

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These are the 11 Satanic Rules of the Earth:

1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
- Basically, do not preach to those who don't want to listen. If your advise or opinion isn't needed, you can be sure it won't be heard.

2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
- This is a trait of the "psychic vampire", people do not want to carry your emotional baggage, so keep it to yourself and don't waste that persons time.

3. When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.
- Common curtesy, if you are in someone's home, ACT like a civil human being and OBEY the master of the lair with respect.

4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy. - This is the outcome of not respecting one's lair. If someone is in your abode and they disrespect you, you have every right to treat them as dirt.

5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal. - Don't sexually advance on someone unless they want it to happen. This is the code that defeats the stereotype of Satanists being pro-rape and sexual harassment.

6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.
- Basically, do not commit theft, unless that person is asking for it to be stolen. Which, then, technically isn't stealing. I guess it is according to LaVey, lol.

7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
- Acknowledge what you have asked for through the practice you used, as a Christian would thank their god for answering a prayer, a Satanist will acknowledge the power that has fulfilled his desires. Failure to do so will often leave you in ruins. (Which often happens with hypocritical self-decievers.)

8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself. - If you're a smoker who is constantly DISTURBED by whining non-smokers, this statement applies to you. If someone is smoking, it is their business which you CAN avoid, if you subject yourself to it, shut up and put up with it.

9. Do not harm little children.
- DO NOT HARM LITTLE CHILDREN. No Satanist will, hence the "Satanic plea" ((THE DEVIL MADE ME DO IT###) in court is a charade.

10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.- Another one much like above, "Satanic Animal Sacrifices" are also a farce, no animal or child is hurt as they are the only PURE things in life.

11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him
- Think of it as walking down the street, do not bother anyone using the same free space, if someone bothers YOU without reason, take them down. (By annihilating one's enemy, it does not neccessarily mean you have to kill them. Result to emotional, psychological and/or physical abuse as you see fit.)

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Moving on again, to the 9 Satanic Sins:

1. Stupidity
-The top of the list for Satanic Sins. The Cardinal Sin of Satanism. It’s too bad that stupidity isn’t painful. Ignorance is one thing, but our society thrives increasingly on stupidity. It depends on people going along with whatever they are told. The media promotes a cultivated stupidity as a posture that is not only acceptable but laughable. Satanists must learn to see through the tricks and cannot afford to be stupid.

2. Pretentiousness
Empty posturing can be most irritating and isn’t applying the cardinal rules of Lesser Magic. On equal footing with stupidity for what keeps the money in circulation these days. Everyone’s made to feel like a big shot, whether they can come up with the goods or not.


3. Solipsism
- Can be very dangerous for Satanists. Projecting your reactions, responses and sensibilities onto someone who is probably far less attuned than you are. It is the mistake of expecting people to give you the same consideration, courtesy and respect that you naturally give them. They won’t. Instead, Satanists must strive to apply the dictum of “Do unto others as they do unto you.” It’s work for most of us and requires constant vigilance lest you slip into a comfortable illusion of everyone being like you. As has been said, certain utopias would be ideal in a nation of philosophers, but unfortunately we are far from that point.

4. Self-deceit
- It’s in the “Nine Satanic Statements” but deserves to be repeated here. Another cardinal sin. We must not pay homage to any of the sacred cows presented to us, including the roles we are expected to play ourselves. The only time self-deceit should be entered into is when it’s fun, and with awareness. But then, it’s not self-deceit!

5. Herd Conformity
- That’s obvious from a Satanic stance. It’s all right to conform to a person’s wishes, if it ultimately benefits you. But only fools follow along with the herd, letting an impersonal entity dictate to you. The key is to choose a master wisely instead of being enslaved by the whims of the many.

6. Lack of Perspective
- Again, this one can lead to a lot of pain for a Satanist. You must never lose sight of who and what you are, and what a threat you can be, by your very existence. We are making history right now, every day. Always keep the wider historical and social picture in mind. That is an important key to both Lesser and Greater Magic. See the patterns and fit things together as you want the pieces to fall into place. Do not be swayed by herd constraints—know that you are working on another level entirely from the rest of the world.

7. Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies
- Be aware that this is one of the keys to brainwashing people into accepting something new and different, when in reality it’s something that was once widely accepted but is now presented in a new package. We are expected to rave about the genius of the creator and forget the original. This makes for a disposable society. A prime example of this would be Sarah Palin hiring a spin-doctor in an attempt to reclaim the respect she once had.

8. Counterproductive Pride
- That first word is important. Pride is great up to the point you begin to throw out the baby with the bathwater. The rule of Satanism is: if it works for you, great. When it stops working for you, when you’ve painted yourself into a corner and the only way out is to say, I’m sorry, I made a mistake, I wish we could compromise somehow, then do it. Don't fear having your pride hurt if you lose an argumenter, fight, game or whatever, because you acknowledge that you are NOT perfect and that you are capable of losing just like every other normal human being.

9. Lack of Aesthetics
This is the physical application of the Balance Factor. Aesthetics is important in Lesser Magic and should be cultivated. It is obvious that no one can collect any money off classical standards of beauty and form most of the time so they are discouraged in a consumer society, but an eye for beauty, for balance, is an essential Satanic tool and must be applied for greatest magical effectiveness. It’s not what’s supposed to be pleasing—it’s what is. Aesthetics is a personal thing, reflective of one’s own nature, but there are universally pleasing and harmonious configurations that should not be denied.

Most of this was ripped off of www.churchofsatan.com

Go there if you want to learn more. These parts of the Satanic Bible are the "back-bone" of Satanism, considering I couldn't be bothered summarizing the entire philosophy (after reading the statements you'll realize that Satanism is more of a philosophy/way of life than a religion), so yeah.

There's a lot more to it, but I believe this should be sufficient enough for those who have misconceptions of Satanism. Feel free to ask questions if you're interested or are in doubt of something.

 

Hmm, I guess I did have a misconception. I don't know how it got there. Thanks for informing me, I actually read through your whole thread. Too lazy to argue it, I just don't believe in it since I don't really see the point...

 

Wow, the rules of satanism make way much more sence than those of christianity. I do not believe in Satan, nor God, but if I had to choose between one of the two, I would surely go with satanism.

 

They only make sense because most humans follow them without noticing. Besides, neither Satan nor God exist. The word Hell olny came about from a Pagan god named Hel and christianity added another h. Also "gods" have changed so much from animal gods of old to monotheism today...

 

I go to a christian school, I think I'll walk in there with a Satanist bible and start to chant random spells or something just to see what they do >_>

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its interesting i will have a read of it and see what its about but i dunno im skeptical

 

Well I'm going to my local library tomorrow so I'll see what they have lol

 

I believe the bible that the KKK pretend to read is the Satanic bible