Azie DNT and subsequent 'rare permanent ban'

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Azie DNT and subsequent 'rare permanent ban'
  1. Unread #41 - Apr 27, 2020 at 4:57 PM
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    I wasn't involved in any of this process, but here are my thoughts:
    1. S's post here is well thought out, and I encourage everyone to read it.
    2. I've known Azie since 2012, back when he was "I Love LA" and all you froobs were like 9 or something. He was a good guy. I think anyone that knew him back then would be really surprised to see this outcome.
    3. Staff absolutely value reputation when deciding how to respond to scam report allegations, and we are definitely more hesitant to ban well-established members of the community than we are newer folks. This is not a bad thing; several well-known traders are reported every day, and we take what we know about them to assume that these reports are due to impostors and not scam-quits. We could DNT them every time to be safe, but that is not a better outcome.
    4. That said, we should have put a trade alert out sooner in this case. That is totally valid feedback, so thanks for that. I tried to put one out today, so we'll see how that goes. Generally, I think it's best to err on the side of caution in these cases; better to let people know that a scam trend is going on than letting them find out after their stuff is gone.
    5. However, there is still nothing we do can prevent a user from scamming. If someone wants to swap thousands of hours spent building a reputation on Sythe for several thousand dollars in stolen wealth, they can make always that tradeoff. It's terrible, but it's a fact of life that's as true online as it is in the real world. Inevitably, some of the "trusted" people on Sythe right now will scam in the future, and this cycle will repeat itself.
     
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  3. Unread #42 - Apr 27, 2020 at 5:22 PM
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    Super couldn’t have explained it any better. AND TOOK ACTION! ty man
     
  5. Unread #43 - Apr 27, 2020 at 11:54 PM
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    As somebody who bought an account that got recovered, this is incorrect. They should've done what they did (send out a mass PM to everyone who bought an account from him) before it got to this point. That PM only came around last week or so (after my account already had gotten recovered). I had 600m on the account I could've moved off before it got recovered had I known the accounts he sold to people were being recovered.
     
  7. Unread #44 - Apr 28, 2020 at 1:42 PM
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    Thank you for actually giving sound feedback even if you weren't involved in the process of everything that happened. Even though you weren't involved, you've gone out of your way to admit that things should have been done differently. You have my respect for actually being pleasant, forthcoming and honest. You don't meet a lot of staff member's with those qualities here. Thank you for bearing that burden.
     
  9. Unread #45 - Apr 28, 2020 at 5:37 PM
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    This, I was one of the affected by his account sales. Not that I would ever blame someone or something for the risk involved with account sales. I was however here when he first became a member and began trading, which subsuqently led to him getting more and more praise. He was genuinely a trustworthy individual and I don't believe he built up his reputation only to exit scam. I wholeheartedly believe he came upon financial difficulties and had no way out except to recover and attempt to resell these accounts. Remember the world is going through some tough times, the fact that this started happening around the same time as these real world events tend to point to the reasoning behind his decisions. I cannot blame staff members for withholding judgement for so long as I too was shocked when I noticed the first DNT. I figured he was going away for a bit or someone got a hold of his account. He didn't even ghost me completely when this was going on initially which led me to believe he was just busy with url stuff. It goes to show that, as said numerous times before me, no member regardless of reputation or ranking as a staff member is exempt from making decisions that could harm the trust individuals have trading with other staff members. In the end, I was lucky as I have a steady income that allows me to throw money at Runescape in my extra time. But I truely feel for those who invested thousands of dollars and tens of hours into these accounts only to lose them to a member who was trusted as much as Azie was.
     
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  11. Unread #46 - May 12, 2020 at 4:01 AM
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    This seems 100% like the staffs fault. The mass pm should of went out March 9th after he was dnt'd for recovering other accounts in this thread Azie. It is beyond me why this wasnt done till later and some people didnt get it at all.
     
  13. Unread #47 - May 12, 2020 at 6:24 AM
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    Glad he became global mod ASAP when returning.
     
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