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11% pay for private because there is public schooling which they think is free if the public schools were gone we would see an increase in demand and also an increase in supply they would get cheaper as they have to compete and we would have better schools educating our children.

Some say well I still don't like that. Well then ok how about this you get a federal voucher saying this pays for this much for my childs education you take this to a private school they honor it and they will have to keep you happy they will need to keep good test scores they will need to compete if they want the money they will not be a failure like our current socialist indoctrination camps (public schools)

College tuition go through the roof because its so easy to get student loans & they are guaranteed by the federal government its the same thing causing the bank collapse you create incentives to cheat.

In private sector cheating isn't possible there are consequences but in monopolies like the government no one is there to oversee cheating. In public schools it is impossible to fire a teacher who has tenure so when they molest children they get sent to a rubber room where they get paid (more money per hour then top scientists even btw) to sit on their laptops and talk about the students they molested with each other. Public sector is terrible at everything its just a corrupt mess in capitalism corruption cannot exist because there is no gain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rubber_Room



America has the highest taxes in the developed world anyone who tells you we have low tax rates is an idiot basing it off false information yes we have low tax rates but then you gotta add on the extra taxes on top of them that are not included in our tax rates we pay more taxes then socialist nations.

Everything we buy also has taxes on it example Gov taxing each gallon of gas then oil companies make profit per gallon. Even higher taxes on ethanol yes many things are taxes worldwide but everything has a tax on it here we also have double taxation on our corporations making them pay huge amounts.

The "unfunded wars" that people blame bush cost less then Obama's stimulus under both presidents after Obama extended them cost us nearly 1.5T over 10 years (Obama spent more in middle east then Bush by a large portion) this is nothing compared to our total deficit which is nearly 2t per year under Obama.

ObamaCare will cost over 2.7t in direct taxes. It will increase cost of medical care by large amounts it will also create more inflation and cripple economy but it sounds nice making affordable health care but what it really does is make it impossible for middle class to get healthcare (cost increase + tax hikes) while giving it to free to people on welfare & illegal immigrants & their anchor babies.

we cannot pay our debt because we have too high spending we can cut taxes and increase revenue its a proven fact when taxes are too high you cripple economy and hurt job growth then end up getting less in tax revenues.

If we cut these 100%

Military
Education
Science & technology research
And every other non entitlement program we still spend more money then we take in we have entitlement programs over 100% of our entire tax revenue.

When we are going broke paying for others don't you think its time we drop this welfare state. Capitalism is proven to work economy works great under less restrictions.


Look what happens when dem's run the house with their collectivist idea's

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_Public_Debt_Ceiling_1981-2010.png

Colours are by who runs the house not who was president.

Read the stickies mate all opinions must be backed up with proof. Follow SuF's example everything he had was sourced to back up his facts.

As for your point on cutting spending costs on education and research are you as dumb as you seem? Science and research are one of the most important aspects of being a developed country. If you cut funding on that you may as well no longer be contributing positively to the world.Most of the achievements the United states are known for are because of research. First country on the moon for example that obviously took billions and billions of dollars to fund research but it positively changed the world for the better.

As for education I will in Canada who has the highest percent of literate people in the world and also has free health care like obama tried to implement. Private schools are very rare in Canada want to know why? Because Private school education is no better than the education I received. Guaranteed in our specific fields we exceed each others intellectual knowledge but take any other Biochemist university/college student from your private schools and I guarantee they will not exceed the knowledge a competent student like myself who has been through the PUBLIC school stream of education.

As for the rising debt being blamed on Obama take this analogy as an example. If you emptied the brake fluid out of a car the car would eventually crash correct? If you're not the one driving that car at said time you will not get the same blame as the person driving the car. This analogy is a representation of the debt the U.S has accumulated. Bush wasn't the one who's being blamed but its because hes not in control when the economy didn't rebound but hes the one who set the economy up for failure with allowing banks to give out risky loans and to essentially cripple the U.S economy.
 
1) We are not even close to top 10 in education we are behind shitty countries yet we are #1 in education spending.

3) In private sector there are consequences for actions yet there are non in the public sector.

4) Once again taxes not tax brackets but taxes if you make 100,000 in America you pay more then in another country (not to mention your money in other countries goes to your healthcare not healthcare of a crack head while you cannot afford insurance)

5) Gas prices world wide are high this doesn't negate the fact

Gas Prices -

2009 Jan $1.74
2012 October $3.87

3.87/1.74= 2.22413793

2.2 Times the price for Oil

Full History of Gas Prices
http://www.eia.gov/petroleum/gasdiesel/xls/pswrgvwall.xls

6) Average tax rate is 11-12%
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax_in_the_United_States

You are looking at tax brackets not rate if someone makes $36,251 and someone else makes $73,042 they are in the same bracket yet the second pays much more then double in taxes learn about progressive tax rates before arguing.

First pays $4,500ish while second pays $17,000ish usually its about like this if someone makes double your money you pay double the tax rate + double money so 4x (not exact but its similar)

For individuals with adjusted gross income of $50,000 or less, the average effective tax rate is less than 5%, according to the Tax Foundation.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/perfi/taxes/story/2012-01-19/romney-tax-rate/52682372/1


7)
His deficits are nearly 2t per year

He entered with ~ 10t debt and ends first term with 16t

Your own chart shows expenses
19.6 to 25

This is also showing % of GDP not total spending. And of course he did earn a bit less he killed millions of jobs by trying to help people his stimulus probably cost us double unintended consequences then it cost itself.

8) When you impose regulations on healthcare insurance companies you increase cost its only logic increasing cost increases the price of your service. There are also hidden taxes on it like employers force to pay 2k per uninsured employee.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs...ted-cost-26-trillion-first-decade_648413.html

You can just google the number or anything and find multiple sources each estimate has increased the cost (As Paul Ryan said it would)


9) It didn't lead to deficits he started with deficits he decreased taxes deficit went up slightly but then economic growth was skyrocketing and while you can say look we have more money we can raise taxes it doesn't work like that because we had that extra money because of the tax cuts.


10) Clinton left increasing debt more then he decreased he had a surplus 1 year which was actual just moving money around and he left with a pretty big budget and you can argue against Bush & Clinton tax cuts all you want but we took more revenue under the tax cuts then we took before them.

Its easy to say the Tax cuts cost us billions because those billions only came in because of the economic growth from the low taxation. We have more economic growth under tax cuts.

Clinton also heavily profited off the internet bubble & housing bubble.


11) Deficits & Debt ceiling are related they are raised when we reach the last ceiling when we organize the budgets for the coming year

http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/ftpdocs/107xx/doc10708/11-9-09mbr.pdf


Look at Obama's first year in office he increased spending by 600b during what he claimed was an economic collapse under Bush.




As for your point on cutting spending costs on education and research are you as dumb as you seem? Science and research are one of the most important aspects of being a developed country. If you cut funding on that you may as well no longer be contributing positively to the world.Most of the achievements the United states are known for are because of research. First country on the moon for example that obviously took billions and billions of dollars to fund research but it positively changed the world for the better.

Fact :
America spends more on education & healthcare then Canada yet we have terrible test scores & worse life expectancy.



I never said cut spending for that I said if we cut it it wouldn't make a difference the only things we need to cut to balance the budget are entitlement programs all they do is try to force people to stay poor & reliant on big government


As for education I will in Canada who has the highest percent of literate people in the world and also has free health care like obama tried to implement. Private schools are very rare in Canada want to know why? Because Private school education is no better than the education I received. Guaranteed in our specific fields we exceed each others intellectual knowledge but take any other Biochemist university/college student from your private schools and I guarantee they will not exceed the knowledge a competent student like myself who has been through the PUBLIC school stream of education.


1) There is no such thing as free
2) ObamaCare is not free medical care its a taxation on anyone not having medical care & also increasing cost of medical care but those who have low income are able to get free healthcare while middle class gets screwed.
3) Private schools always have better test scores not even going to argue this.

As for the rising debt being blamed on Obama take this analogy as an example. If you emptied the brake fluid out of a car the car would eventually crash correct? If you're not the one driving that car at said time you will not get the same blame as the person driving the car. This analogy is a representation of the debt the U.S has accumulated. Bush wasn't the one who's being blamed but its because hes not in control when the economy didn't rebound but hes the one who set the economy up for failure with allowing banks to give out risky loans and to essentially cripple the U.S economy.

The banks were forced to give risky loans under Clintons 1996 community reinvestment act changes. The crash happened under Bush. The crash was not nearly was bad as people thought the problem was first thing Obama started doing when he took over was spending trillions on bad idea's. The problem was the corruption when the government can bail anyone out if they fail they get bailed out and if they succeed they make bank they had no incentives to only make good loans but then when it was collapsing house prices dropped and even good loans turned bad this was due to government regulations not lack of them.

Obama come up with a few great idea's to fix economy

Obama stimulus 850billion ending up costing millions of dollars per job it saved it would have been smarter to give each person it helped each 1million dollars then throwing 400billion dollars in a fire
Cash for clunkers cannot even be calculated as the entire cost is all unintended consequences as a result
He then started changing the medical insurance industries and starts forcing them to take people already sick these are private companies they are being forced to raise prices to everyone to pay for people who chose not to buy insurance in the first place then middle class people can no longer afford healthcare.
He then comes up with extended the wars in the middle east

Let me tell you a story.


My family had medical insurance my mother still has it through her employer (just for her) my father could no longer pay our excessively increasing healthcare costs rising every year. A few months later

He broke his back and doctors said he would be out of work for 1 year. We were unable to get help from any government programs who help families struggling with medical problems because we are a middle class family and they only help poor families they basically told us well if you sold your house or made just a little bit less money we could have helped you. He started working a little bit after a few months against doctors orders we are forced to we can only get help if we are poor sure we could claim welfare/disability then we would get medicaid/medicare free but we are against that my family does work and is able to work but when we pay taxes to organizations claiming to help those in need but they refuse us why are we forced to pay?

So why does America spend more then Canada on medical care if its not helping those who are uninsured and have problems? Because its only going to the poor people who are not having accidents but just get free insurance so they go to doctors all the time.



I answered all his posts in his quote btw.

I used sources when talking about data but for explaining why I don't need sources its common sense I don't need a study to show my house roof is leaking I don't need to show a study to explain how increasing cost to make a product increases the cost of a product.


Statistics are always bias I don't need to show statistics for stupid things when its common sense


Bill Burr's opinions on statistics are similar to mine.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f1e_1346056198

5:19 The rant against statistics starts.

You never answered my question on the last page ^_^

You never answered my question on the last page ^_^

Which one post it again and I will answer I am not ignoring questions just some I don't see.

Hows it feel to part of one of the ideologies that is splitting the Republican party apart so, by consequence, making it easier for Democrats to win.

I am not a republican at all I want to split the republican party I want real hard core constitutional conservatives not moderates with no backbone.


I want the Gary Johnsons, Rand Paul's & Herman Cain's I don't want the Clinton's, Bush's, or the Romney's

(Bill Clinton was a republican weather he admits it or not his policies & actions are 100% in tact with the republican way.)
 
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(Bill Clinton was a republican weather he admits it or not his policies & actions are 100% in tact with the republican way.)

He was a moderate. He is most certainly not a Republican as they are today. He is more of a more moderate Reagan. So is Obama.
 
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He was a moderate. He is most certainly not a Republican as they are today. He is more of a more moderate Reagan. So is Obama.

Bill Clinton was literally a perfect example of a Republican. Republicans are a bit moderate inherently.
George Bush was one of the biggest moderates we had.
Rand Paul would be a perfect example of a Conservative.

Obama is a great example of a socialist. No idea why you could call Obama a moderate the only thing not extreme left wing about him is his right wing foreign policy.
 
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