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  1. Unread #1 - Aug 31, 2012 at 11:10 AM
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    Okay, I've seen somebody else spark up the Suicide debate, and whether it's right or wrong. However, I'm going to be posting some 'evidence' and thoughts for concern for you to think about before you respond, and more so talking about assisted suicide.

    If you've been watching the news lately, especially in the UK you would of heard of a man called Tony Nicklinson. I will link an article for you to read if you've never heard of the case and will also post the story in short below.

    BBC Article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-19341722

    Article in brief:
    Tony Nicklinson was a 58-year-old man who was paralysed from the neck down after suffering a stroke in 2005 and described his own life as a "living nightmare" (quote taken from the article).

    Suffering with paralysis after his stroke Mr Nicklinson brought up a court case to end his own life. Every day he suffered with the condition and it was incurable. Mr Nicklinson fought for a good few years to win the court case so he could go to a different country where they allow euthanasia, so he could end his own life as he didn't want to live with this terrible condition any more. The condition left him almost lifeless with the inability to work, look after himself, not being able to dress himself which meant he needed care 24/7.

    However, multiple times Mr Nicklinson's case was rejected. Last week Mr Nicklinson, from Melksham, Wiltshire, lost his High Court case to allow doctors to end his life.

    For week Mr Nicklinson rejected food and began to essentially 'starve himself to death'. Doctors and the courts kept rejecting and rejecting his appeal. With Mr Nicklinson not eating he rapidly lost good health and contracted pneumonia and shortly after passed.

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    That was the case in short, but read the article for more facts and accuracy.

    I think it's utterly DISGUSTING that a man with such condition wasn't allowed to end his own life. As I described above his condition left him almost lifeless with the inability to work, look after himself, not being able to dress himself which meant he needed care 24/7. What sort of a life is that? A man who's lived 58 years of his life normally, suddenly lost everything. And doctors and courts are too blind to see that all he wanted is peace and quiet and the right to have peace. Yes he had family, but there were completely for Mr Nicklinson's decision as they knew the pain and torture he was going through.

    I know religion conflicts with these laws. But I personally think it's unethical for someone to suffer so much from an incurable condition and should have the right to decide what they do with their own life because I know for a fact if that was me I would want exactly the same.

    EDIT: My opinion continued...

    I personally think the current system is awful. It needs to be changed but it never will, well not any time soon anyway. These high court judges and doctors are able to live normal lives so don't see why someone else would want to end theirs. What they fail to realize is that in some sense they're no longer living at all.

    If you're born with such disorder then I think in some cases this is different as you've grown up with it wouldn't necessarily know what it would feel like to live a 'normal' life. But for people with such conditions if they don't wish to live then let them make up their own minds as to whether they want the suffering to continue or stop.

    It's selfish for one human being to keep another alive when they clearly have no standard of life, have a clear mind about decision making and are living in hell.

    So, my question to you? Do you think Assisted suicide/Euthanasia should be allowed in these circumstances?

    Because I do for sure! Please leave sensible responses below and not just yes or no answers.

    Thank you all for reading.
     
  3. Unread #2 - Aug 31, 2012 at 12:24 PM
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    It definetely should be allowed in certain circumstances, but it shouldn't be treated lightly either.
     
  5. Unread #3 - Aug 31, 2012 at 12:35 PM
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    Its gonna take a long time before things such as assisted suicide and Euthanasia become widely more accepted and easier to fulfil.

    Theres a lot of things to take into account and theres more to it then simply the moral scenario of granting somebodies wish to die who is unable to perform it themselves without assistance.

    When you try to do this legally, there will be lots of obstacles to over-come such as making sure nobody is forcing you to do it, that is 100% what you want etc, as for example somebody could be blackmailing you into requesting it, a threat to family for instance.

    It is definitely wrong to deny people the right to suicide, but its a very hard issue to tackle, but one day there will be a better system for it, but that date is unknown.

    Like who do you grant the authority to decide who is aloud to kill you, who decides that your request is not influenced by factors of blackmail or pressure, who decides how you should die, when and under what circumstances... the list goes on.

    It is disgusting that guy had to starve himself to death after losing the court case, something does need to change, but how is the big question.

    You can't simply just let anyone walk in and go i wanna die, then kill them on the spot, these things need to be approached with extreme evaluation.
     
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    I definitely believe assisted suicide should be legal, it is horrifying that it isn't, people have to suffer, trapped in their own bodies unable to do anything or lead any sort of life. I think it should be their choice, not the government, or another person.
     
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    Should be allowed, its a humans right to die when it does wish so, and in this mans poor case he could not LIVE the way we do unfortunately, why would someone sit all day and do nothing and when someone passes nearby you will feel bad at living like this, i would allow it if i was the court.
    Thats my two cents, rant.
     
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    It's allowed here in certain circumstances (Belgium). Then again, in other it's not. If you have alzheimers for instance you might not be able to get it.
     
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    Well just go on Youtube and search for assisted suicide and you will see, its better to allow someone to die without pain and with dignity than to die in agony.
     
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    I'm all for personal rights so to me it's pretty simple. Let people do whatever the fuck they want to do ( as long as you don't impede on the rights of others). This should especially be true when someone is living in agony or hardly living at all, like being in a coma or vegetable like state.

    But someone could also say that some people who do want assisted suicide are so drugged up that they really just don't know whats going on ect. So careful measures should be taken in that regard.
     
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    Yes that is true, if someone can't do normal stuff we can do and HE wants to die just because of that, why not? why live 20 years like a plant.
     
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    I fully support this when a man or woman has a disease that makes life a living hell.
    However, they should not be able to make a rash decision about it.

    But as I am from the Netherlands...I will be "euthanized" when I live past 60 anyways, haha!
     
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    I don't care what the reason, a person should be able to end their own life should they choose. As long as they are legally an adult. If a person wants to kill themselves the second they are 18, let them. If they're under 18 it is up to their parents. If their parents do not want them to kill themselves and they try but fail to end it, the child should be put in a mental institution where they can't kill themselves.

    Overpopulation will be a big problem in the near future. Why not get a head start on solving the problem?
     
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    I fully support it but by the time any real laws are passed we will be back in the dark ages. As long as this 2000 year old book is still around to dominate the world we will continue to decline in rational thought.
     
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    That's one way to look at it...

    I personally think the current system is awful. It needs to be changed but it never will, well not any time soon anyway. These high court judges and doctors are able to live normal lives so don't see why someone else would want to end theirs. What they fail to realize is that in some sense they're no longer living at all.

    If you're born with such disorder then I think in some cases this is different as you've grown up with it wouldn't necessarily know what it would feel like to live a 'normal' life. But for people with such conditions if they don't wish to live then let them make up their own minds as to whether they want the suffering to continue or stop.

    It's selfish for one human being to keep another alive when they clearly have no standard of life, have a clear mind about decision making and are living in hell.
     
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    I completely agree with this, maybe our lives are GREAT but not as much as the one who sits next to use and can't move and eat without the help of others, he feels that he is a burden to them and thus its better to end his life.
     
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    I know I wouldn't have chosen suicide, because in my mind life still has things to offer even if you can't move yourself.

    However, not everyone thinks alike, so I think the assisted suicide should have been granted.
     
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    That is true, my last say here is that it should have been granted.
     
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    I think it should be allowed, but only in extreme circumstances..
    Though as people said above, it would be risky to do this.
     
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    Exactly, it's a harsh reality but people can take their own life regardless of whether it is legally allowed. Surely letting someone take their own life peacefully and in no pain would be better than them living a life of pain until the day they naturally die.

    As long as a person is mentally stable and of a reasonable age to understand the totality of the situation then they should be allowed to do so. In the United Kingdom a person can legally bring another human being into this world at the age of 16, such a huge undertaking to allow a person to do, I don't understand why it cannot be allowed the other way if a person has a legitimate reason to end their life.
     
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    Bump.
     
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    This is really sad, obviously the man would've suffered less with an assisted suicide rather than the pain he went through.

    I'm so shocked people agreed to this post though. I will pick bit by bit why I believe this post is so wrong.

    So if someone's 24, can't find a job, and commits suicide, you think it's alright? Or just an irrational decision based on temporary emotions, that could have easily been treated?

    So wait, what makes 18 the cutoff point? You all of a sudden become an adult at 18? Believe me, no. If anything, I know people who became more immature during their freshman year in college than their senior year in high school.

    Probably the only thing I agree with in your post. But not necessarily a 'mental institution'. At least a visit to the local psychiatrist.

    I can't believe what I just read here. You're basically saying to a suicidal, depressed person, "Hey, can't wait till you're gone, it's getting too crowded here anyways!" What gives you the right to give the OK to lose a depressed life (even if this life could be treated), and damage many other interconnected people's lives? If you didn't know, sometimes suicide is a chain reaction - one person commits suicide, another commits suicide because of this person, etc.

    If we live with this mentality, we might as well get rid of psychiatrists - if the suicidal people want to kill themselves, let them. Why treat them? It's more beneficial to just gain another spot in Earth's limited capacity for someone who is more appreciative of their life (and it makes the psychiatrist's job easier), right? Wrong!
     
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