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Are School Results a good gauge on how 'smart' a kid is?

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    Are School Results a good gauge on how 'smart' a kid is?

    Certainly not - exams are very predictable, or at least this is the case in England.

    I got the best GCSE grades out of all of the students at the schools in my lcoal area (a few thousand people), but am the first to admit that I'm certainly not the smartest; I know several people who are bound to go on to be more successful than I in life.

    They are obviously an indicator to some extent, for example I feel fairly safe in the knowledge that getting 13 A*'s gives me the upper hand over somebody who scrapes 5 C's, but the fact of the matter is, some of the undeniably best brains in the world have no or few qualifications to show for it.

    One thing that exam results does provide is opportunity. i.e. it gives you the opportunity to go to a better university, where your brain can be utilised to its maximum potential.

    But no, they are certainly not the be all and end all.
     
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    Are School Results a good gauge on how 'smart' a kid is?

    You can't really define intelligence. It's one of those gray words.

    Personally I believe intelligence is the sum of a person's amount of skill; whether it be social, cognitive, or decision-making.

    Grades just represent your willingness to strive for a subject and does not directly represent intelligence, so that claim is false in my opinion.

    If you receive bad grades, you're just not making enough of a valiant effort for whatever reason. However I would have to disagree with some and say that there IS a loose correlation between intelligence and school grades.

    If you take a straight "A" student and a straight "F" student and compared them, almost always, the straight A student will have a higher summative intelligence quotient.

    Also, keep in mind that a student with higher scores will be more knowledgeable than the other, which is a COMPLETELY different word!
     
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    School doesn't really measure brightness. It only teaches you to think within a box. In fact, some of the brightest minds dropped out of school because they had their own ideas which couldn't be given a letter grade.

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    Are School Results a good gauge on how 'smart' a kid is?

    Definitely not. I got average grades in school. I think my overall gpa was a 3.5 for highschool (I got down to a 2.7 and up to a 3.8). I could have gotten a 4.0, but I just didn't try hard enough. School is a reflection of your smarts and your effort. Not to toot my own horn, but I am a pretty smart guy. I just never did the homework and I NEVER studied even for finals.
     
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    Are School Results a good gauge on how 'smart' a kid is?

    I think it really depends. I think it is a better gauge than not having one at all.

    Generally, an A student is smarter in most ways than a C student.

    Though, there are things outside of the classroom that do not depend on their grades. Common sense is a huge factor in that, not grades.
     
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    Are School Results a good gauge on how 'smart' a kid is?

    School grades would be a good gauge on responsibility, but not so much intelligence. Grades are highly dependent on willing yourself to perform the task. Usually the task is trivial in difficulty, so the masses can accomplish it together. No school attempts to only pass smart kids, they make a course guideline that anyone can complete, and allow the persistence of the student to determine the outcome.
     
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    Are School Results a good gauge on how 'smart' a kid is?

    Yeah this is very well put - I couldn't agree more!
     
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    i dont agree
     
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    Are School Results a good gauge on how 'smart' a kid is?

    It can show that a person is smarter in certain subjects, because honestly we all aren't all going to have jobs were we're going to need to use Chemistry.
     
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    Are School Results a good gauge on how 'smart' a kid is?

    I can personally use my self as an example:-

    -Im an A-Student, when im focussing on my studies.
    -But im a C-Student when im too busy playing Rs.

    Tbh, i dont see anyone as Smart/Stupid what matters is how much you study/practice.

    "Practice makes perfect".
     
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    Are School Results a good gauge on how 'smart' a kid is?

    Are there even two sides to this debate? I haven't bothered reading through the posts because I'm assuming they all say pretty much the same thing.

    I graduated high school with a 1.3 GPA. Despite what colleges / business owners may think, that does not make me an idiot. During my senior year, I purposely arrived at my first block class (Economics) with five minutes left in class every day. I showed up to class, so I couldn't be marked absent; I was just tardy. Despite missing the every lesson for the entire course, I rushed through each test in the very short amount of time that I was actually in class, and often had the highest grade out of our class of 20+ students on the tests. I ended up passing the class with less than 10 hours total time in class.

    Am I claiming to be a genius by posting that story? No. But if GPA was a good gauge on how smart a person is, from 1 (vegetable) to 5 (Einstein), I think I would be a little bit higher than a 1.3.

    School results are a good gauge on how determined a student is, how much they care about performing well, how good of a teacher or how easy of a course they took, how easily they can learn new material, etc. There are many factors involved in school performance, and intelligence is definitely not the most dominant factor in all cases.
     
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    I think its dumb for a student to claim he is smarter just because of better grades. If someone ever said that I would have to comment on it. Some people are just lazy, too lazy to study and too lazy to do homework. Maybe they forgot to do their homework that one day and their grade dropped from a B- to a C+ so many factors come into play.
     
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    No. A big part of school is work ethic. People can have bad grades, but be very smart but because of their work ethic, they could have B's and C's. A kid at my school got a 32 on his ACT but has C's and D's. It all boils down to work ethic. Unless you are in a class where the majority of points come from tests/exams, school work/homework is the bulk majority of them. You can have excellent test grades but do no homework and that would result in bad grades.
     
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    Are School Results a good gauge on how 'smart' a kid is?

    Its a good indication of how much effort someone is willing to put into something, not how 'smart' you are. You could be as dumb as a door knob, work your but off, and still aquire good grades. Someone could be really clever but not be interested at all or maybe find it hard to apply themselves to the school environment. To be completely honest, i think school is a joke, ive messed it up completely and ive wasted my time, my parents time and my parents money.

    I Hate school!
     
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    Not at all, any kid who studies and does his homework can have straight A's in school..Intelligence can not be determined by a test of any kind not even an IQ test. There are different kinds of intelligence in human nature that will only be determined in situations that use different parts of the brain.
     
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    I can say that, someone who is good in academic probably isn't good in hand-ons tasks. Vice versa, someone who is good in hand-ons probably isn't good in academic. Life is unfair but sometimes there is some lucky people who are good in both. Regarding grades, you work hard and study hard, you get good grades. Basically it's just that way.
     
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    Are School Results a good gauge on how 'smart' a kid is?

    First of all, would depend on the subjects you took. Maths would be a harder subject than food.

    I believe that exam results are usually a clear indication of how 'smart' a person is. Having the intelligence to revise, study, work hard.

    People can claim 'I got nervous on the day', to be honest, I think that's a load of nonsense, study everything in depth, and there won't be anything to get nervous about.
     
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    no, i could have gotten straight a's if i tried
    school isnt about being smart it's about doing the work, i know somebody who had a 4.0 when he graduated and i knew 3 times more stuff than him in math/science/history/LA
     
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    Most public schools gauge how good a kid's memory is.
     
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    Nope, to be honest, grades mean a little. Some intelligent people are lazy and they dont do homework or anything, they tend to get bad grades.
     
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