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  1. Unread #1 - Oct 18, 2019 at 1:25 PM
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    [APPROVED] Overhaul of the "OSRS Main Accounts: Level 80+" Sub-Section.

    User @Sound recently made a great suggestion to create a separate sub-section for max-melee staker threads. This prompted me to browse the OSRS mains section in attempt to figure out where there might be a more pressing issue & how to maximize efficiency.

    Suggestion
    I believe that a revision to the "combat level 80+" portion of the mains sub-section could provide substantial value to the forums. I think we should expand further upon @Sound's suggestion to clean up the most used section of the OSRS account marketplace.

    Issue

    The main accounts subsection is currently very messy.
    The "OSRS Main Accounts: Level 80+" section has 39,526 threads and 429,145 views, while the "OSRS Main Accounts: Levels 3-79" section only has 5,741 threads and 60,257 views.
    A thread stays on P.1 of the 80+ section for around 1 hour on average. A thread stays on P.1 of the <80 section for 7+ hours on average.

    As is is now, there are tons & tons of bumped threads in the 80+ sub-section. 2K+ total mains, <2K total maxed mains, med level mains, starter mains, bgloves mains, DS2/MM2 mains, max melee stakers, and the list goes on. It can be quite difficult to find what you're looking for at times, especially if you aren't very familiar with the forums.

    There are enough actual main accounts with high total levels, as well as enough main accounts that are built for a specific purpose (stakers, DS2/MM2, bgloves starters, etc.) that we could create several subsections based on accounts that fall into the current "80+ level main" bucket.

    On top of this, mains are generally advertised and purchased based on total level, not combat level.

    Solution

    Edit: After further brainstorming & conversation.. I think the best solution is this:

    Overhaul to the entire OSRS account marketplace with new subsections as follows:

    PKING ACCOUNTS
    1) Defence Level 1-39
    2) Defence Level 40+ (Zerkers/Tanks/Pieties/Meds)

    MAIN ACCOUNTS
    1) <1800 Total
    2) 1800+ Total
    3) Stakers (99/99/99s/Odds Stakers/Mage Stakers)

    IRONMEN
    1) Ironmen
    2) Skillers

    I'm completely open to suggestions if anyone can think of a better way to do this. Just want to open up a discussion as I think a rework to this portion of the forums would prove beneficial.

    Thanks for your input!​
     
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    [APPROVED] Overhaul of the "OSRS Main Accounts: Level 80+" Sub-Section.

    However they handle it, this should definitely be visited. As mentioned, the forum is extremely messy and difficult to navigate.
    I think sorting it by total level rather than combat level is a very great solution. Support.
     
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    [APPROVED] Overhaul of the "OSRS Main Accounts: Level 80+" Sub-Section.

    Where-as this seems like a great idea I can also see on the other hand people having trouble finding a "lower leveled" account and going through these total sections to find a specific combat account.
     
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    [APPROVED] Overhaul of the "OSRS Main Accounts: Level 80+" Sub-Section.

    Can you elaborate on what you mean by "lower leveled" account? I'm not quite sure what you're specifically referring to.
     
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    [APPROVED] Overhaul of the "OSRS Main Accounts: Level 80+" Sub-Section.

    For example some people like level 3 skillers, maybe a level 17 defense tank, maybe even a maxed zerk but under x combat for a certain level of wildy. I do like the idea of your suggestion but I could see this coming into play if they have to search for specific "total" sections to find the exact combat account/build they are looking for.

    Hope this makes sense I'm doing quite a bit of work at the moment so not able to 100% focus.
     
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    [APPROVED] Overhaul of the "OSRS Main Accounts: Level 80+" Sub-Section.

    All good man! I understand your logic, I’m just not sure these issues fall within the scope of my suggestion.

    This suggestion is only intended to tackle the clutter pertaining to the type of accounts that make up the majority of the mains marketplace. It is catered to the masses (IE - the most popular accounts & subsection of the market).

    In addition to this, a level 3 skiller, a level 17 defense tank, and a maxed zerker would not fall under any of the three categories I suggested. The revision I’ve suggested only applies to the “3-79 main” and 80+ main” subsections of OSRS accounts. The pures, skillers, and Ironman sections would remain unchanged. This is just arranging the mains subsection in a way that is more effective than how it is currently done.

    I hope that provides you with some clarification. :)
     
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    [APPROVED] Overhaul of the "OSRS Main Accounts: Level 80+" Sub-Section.

    I support in a way with a few alterations,

    You should make pking subsections IE zerkers,pieties, pures, so on and so forth because there are sooooo many accounts that dont fit into the 1500+ total bracket at all let alone the 2k total.

    Maybe make a 1500+ main section and a 40-70 def section or even pking account sections for 80+ combat and those for under 80.

    Even though I do agree with the stakers getting their own section completely there should just be a list for "staking accounts, then sub section for odds stakers, maxed stakers, range stakers, mage staking"

    So on so forth.

    Good suggestion for an account section cleanup though :)

    YH
     
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    [APPROVED] Overhaul of the "OSRS Main Accounts: Level 80+" Sub-Section.

    The reason I suggest sub sections for pking builds is because #1 zerks with 90 str 94 mage 60 attack builds rest around 87 combat and the starter versions of these are around 76 combat so between both lines there.

    Not to mention piety builds with 85-90str 60 attack rest at roughly 92-96 combat as their maxed counterparts are 100-103combat for 60 attack builds.

    Then you have the 75 attack counterparts which def surpass on these combat brackets.

    I think there needs to be pk sub sections and main sections to change the clutter< IE people go to look for a main with decent stats to do slayer and bossing yet are seeing nothing but pking accounts.

    Need a low , med, high tier main section with your specified total levels and then the combat subsections for pking <3

    YH
     
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    [APPROVED] Overhaul of the "OSRS Main Accounts: Level 80+" Sub-Section.

    Thanks for the feedback my man! Like I said, completely open to revisions of the suggestion.

    Keep in mind, I'm referring only to the main accounts sub-sections ("3-79 combat mains" & "80+ combat mains").

    My suggestion would not affect zerkers, pieties, or pures, as these all fall within the "3-69 pures & skillers" and "70+ pures & skillers" sub-sections.

    My suggestion is to implement a <1500 total, 1501-1999, and 2000+ mains section, as well as a section for accounts built for a specific purpose other than being a "main". Examplres of this are staking and pking builds.

    Heck, you could even further reduce it to:
    1) Mains below 1800 total
    2) Mains above 1800 total
    3) Staking and Pking Builds
     
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    [APPROVED] Overhaul of the "OSRS Main Accounts: Level 80+" Sub-Section.

    I understand that,

    Most people think of pure's as 1 def so kinda hard to fill that niche with a label of pure, maybe pk build sub sections could be added to deduce the problem in general.

    You're correct though there needs to be sub sections for staking accounts as well the mains, however I think 2k+ should have its own section < even though these are rare accounts to come across being sold as legit / 1500-2k and then 2k+ possibly.

    Then maxed staker section since there is such a high demand for staking accounts

    Will check in on ya later but keep in mind as you said most people coming here don't know how to use the market and we should simplify this as in depth as possible ^.^

    YH
     
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    [APPROVED] Overhaul of the "OSRS Main Accounts: Level 80+" Sub-Section.

    Please don't let what I'm about to say come across as argumentative, because I promise that isn't my intention. :p
    I just want to work through the conversation and (hopefully) come to the most optimal solution.

    In my opinion, saying most people think of pures as 1 defence is very subjective and not backed by any evidence. A quick scroll through of P1. of the "pures & skillers 70+" section reveals this:


    1 Defence Pure Threads: 8
    13-20 Defence Pure Thread: 1
    Zerkers, Tanks, and Piety Threads: 15


    However, I think you're working towards the idea that the entire "OSRS Accounts" section could use a rework.. and I don't inherently disagree with you (especially after I just noticed how many P1. threads were zerkers)!

    One step at a time, though.
     
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    [APPROVED] Overhaul of the "OSRS Main Accounts: Level 80+" Sub-Section.

    You're viewing sellers as the end goal here "15 threads for zerkers" because it's the only place to post them in regards to their combat bracket.

    I dont think you are argumentative at all ^.^ however I sell around 1-2 accounts a day between both these brackets and if we had better layouts clients would be able to narrow it down better.

    I still agree we need a section for stakers and a different area for mains.

    But if we are doing an overhaul why not make it all sparkly clean and clear for the clients.

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    [APPROVED] Overhaul of the "OSRS Main Accounts: Level 80+" Sub-Section.

    Possibly like this :

    Ironmen / skiller 3-80
    Ironmen 81+

    1-35 def pure builds
    40-75 def for rune pures - tanks / max str piety builds
    mains 1500-1800
    Mains 1801-2277

    Stakers, odd stakers, maxed stakers and alternatives
     
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    [APPROVED] Overhaul of the "OSRS Main Accounts: Level 80+" Sub-Section.

    Yeah, honestly.. I don't disagree with you there.

    "Pures level 70+" has less than half the threads & views that "Pures level 3-69" has.. so maybe an even better suggestion would be....

    PKERS
    1) Pkers: Defence Level 1-39
    2) Pkers: Defence Level 40+ (Zerkers/Tanks/Pieties/Meds)

    MAINS
    Mains <1500 Total
    Mains 1501-1999 Total
    Mains 2000+ Total

    IRONMEN
    Ironmen & Skillers
     
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    [APPROVED] Overhaul of the "OSRS Main Accounts: Level 80+" Sub-Section.

    How many threads are there for reputable sellers with 2k+ total mains if you have that data already?

    I'll brb heading to the gym will continue once i get back home.

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    [APPROVED] Overhaul of the "OSRS Main Accounts: Level 80+" Sub-Section.

    I don't have that data handy as I'd have to dig through ~50+ pages of threads. Don't mind doing it to help come to an advantageous solution, though.

    However, I do want to point out your wording of "reputable sellers."
    I don't feel like we can limit the conversation to "reputable" sellers considering anyone can post their 2K+ total main up for sale. From what I've seen, at least half (erring on the side of caution) of the sellers of 2K+ mains wouldn't be considered "trusted." This doesn't prevent them from listing & selling, and therefore, we can't exclude them from the conversation.

    Again, I don't think making the division at <1800 TTL and >1800 TTL is wrong either. With the mains section being the most active section at nearly 40K topics, I just think that three subsections can be justified. Reducing to 2 sections, <1800 and >1800, might be an easier implementation.
     
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    Bump.
     
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