Account services should be changed

That's something I can't agree with. What's your position on workers then? Since technically if you have a worker your outsourcing.

 

That's just plain stupid.

Workers are someone under your service, not a third party.

 

Outsourcing is someone other than your self doing the work I thought?

 

Then your thinking is wrong.

A "outsource" would be me accepting an order then asking you to do it for X-payment, you are not a listed worker which then is defining the outsource meaning.

If you was a listed worker, who is profiled under my service name, then that would however be completely different. A lot of the time people do this trick to gain further vouches/feedback (feedback/vouch farming) and to make themselves extra gold for nothing but pure greed.

 

Then what's stop people from saying "Oh he's my worker." Anyone can say someone is a worker, that's just a title.

 

That provider would be UPS. However, the management of this client for just one company is already a headache with the mountains of data pouring in daily. I can only imagine the amount of work this will add to Sythe if this client were to be made compulsory for all Sythe providers.

And I am personally against the view that every worker's contact information should be displayed in OP due to security concerns which have been explained by @Worm. On top of that, it only adds to more unnecessary administrative work for the company.

It should be pretty straight-forward. If the customer engaged you as the original provider and you as the original provider fail to deliver; no matter how many 3rd parties you engage, you ultimately should be responsible for it. That's the stance UPS have taken since the beginning and this should be the basis for this market.

 

That's what I see as well, maybe a sticky in the section outlining that, if you outsource, your responsible. Completely stopping it though isn't gonna really help anything.

 

*Facepalm*

read the full thread, then please quote me instead of acting so dumb.

A "WORKER" is someone who is both listed on your thread and is a full time worker to your service, not someone you hire to do a lost city quest once a week because you don't want to spend 5 minutes of your life doing it and reward them half the pay.

 

With that being said, they wouldn't be able to know who your workers are without them confirming via Skype or such - Which even then they would be given their Skype.

That is of course unless you are outsourcing your work, if you're not, you have nothing to really worry about as they would be speaking with your workers & giving information to your workers.

 

Well first of all stop calling out and saying people are dumb cuz they are arguing against you please.

Secondly, I have read the thread. What is to stop someone from putting it on the thread that they work for them, and a week later or x amount of time later, they take it off. You can put the "worker" label on anything and listing your workers doesn't do anything anyways since the original servicer is responsible, "worker" or not.

 

I think you will find I am stating your logic is dumb, not specifically you.

And there is nothing stopping anyone doing that, but at the same time that's the whole point of having application threads where you hire people with sufficient evidence to the claim and so on. So again, stop acting like you don't know the answer when you apparently do.

 

Answer to what? Your basically saying to hire a worker you have to make them go through a process (whatever that process may be, E.G. Interview, chat, etc.) and that is what makes it a worker. I disagree because that's not what makes a worker. A worker is someone you say is your worker. Plain and simple. I could go up to you right now and call you my worker and if u agree to work for me, then you are my "worker"

Please explain to me what the process to become a "worker" is, since there are many different ways.

 

If you're having trouble understanding things, please go down all the actual thread where I have left links to examples (in my own case at least) for such reasons. You instead have clearly shown that you don't want to read, and don't like it when someone corrects your failure to understand.

 

If the service provider is outsourcing their work, it is only appropriate for the customers to know before they place the order. This information between out-sourcing contractors or internal pool of workers could be the deciding factor for a customer before he/she orders. Other than that, I don't see any need to specifically know who actually trains the account since ultimately, the original service provider would be held accountable.

Edit: Really guys, must every discussion contain unnecessary argument? Welcome to Sythe I guess

 

It makes no difference who is accountable and who isn't really, it's more the fact of knowing who you're dealing with.

There have been cases where people bot orders without customers knowing, just because the customer isn't banned it doesn't mean they should be botting in that sense.

If I hired YOU specifically to do work on my account, I would expect yourself or a known worker to your service to do it, not some random.

 

I have read the thread and now re-read it to make sure I didn't miss anything. From what I can tell, all you've said about what a "worker" is

The second quote is exactly what I'm saying, it boils down to who you want to be your worker and if you trust them.

I don't like it when someone corrects my failure to understand? I literally asked for you to explain to me what you think a worker is? I think you just don't like it when someone has a rebuttal against your suggestion.

 

I think you are still failing to understand. It's nothing to do with you having a different opinion to me, more the fact you are wrong by what you have mentioned.

So I will explain for you again, and here is the start of it - Hiring people 07 work - If you read over that, you will see this is your typical hiring thread.

Now let's go here - 「 Dbuffeds Services | AIO | NO BOTTING | Quests | Levelling | Void | Achievement Dairies 」 again you will see someone is listed under "workers"

I cant just take him on and off the thread as of when I please because of me flavor of the day/week being different to the last, he has paid the insurance fee to work under my service and regardless of that I am responsible still even if he didn't.

This is the difference between a outsource and a worker. A worker is assigned to specific things, and is actually part of your company whilst the outsourcing isn't.

 

Ok thank you for explaining and I understand the outsourcing part already. What I'm saying is that anyone can say your my worker.

I see now that you think a worker is someone who goes through the process in your thread and I agree, this is the "typical" way. But as always, there are different ways to do it and not everyone can/will follow your process. All I'm saying is anyone can "oh wanna be my worker? Cool your my worker now"

I am also confused as to what you think I am saying wrong?

 

You are correct, again YES ANYONE CAN CLAIM but the fact is, not everyone is. Fuck me side ways...

Why do you think I told you to run down the whole thread? And why would you (taking an example from Gen) find it a problem to have customers knowing your workers Skype ID etc? I mean, they are the ones who are meant to be receiving the information, not yourself.

 

I don't have a problem with that I just don't see how this stops anything since anyone can be your "worker"