Legalize Marijuana?

It was a legitimate play on statistics, also the percentage was not conjured by myself.

I'm not against it's legalization, in fact, I'm for the most part for it.

Because it was given to me. If someone says x, I'm certainly not going to debate y.

I got it from a drug expert, I take it to be moderately valid.

You misunderstand.

People smoke 1 bong in a group, constantly.
If they pass it around, they put their lips on the same mouthpiece.
If one of them has a cut lip, then blood can be transferred to all the other parties.
If that person with the cut lip has AIDS, then it is transferable.
I said nothing short of that.
You most certainly wouldn't have a better chance of aids shaking hands. For one, unless you put your hands in your mouth, or an open wound almost instantaneously, then their is I think it's safe to say no chance.

I've heard many sources that it does, not just online or from books.

I only claimed that it impaired their attentiveness, learning and memory. Are you disputing this? Also... b+?

Their is a reason why the debate on weed is very controversial.
If you go on my raw personal experience, all the kids in my school who do drugs, inclusive of weed are C-D grade students.
Am I saying weed alone causes this, no, however based on observation alone, this holds true almost ALWAYS in MY experience.

Same source as above.

It's hard to back up what has been verbally explained to me.
Regardless, the topic itself is immensely controversial in the aspect of the way it has been debated throughout time.


I still stand by this:

Irrelevant, people need to know what they smoke, and the risks. The statistics of one contracting such diseases are trivial at best. But the facts are real, pros and cons, people need to know what they smoke, if they do, then smoke away.

 

you can't cite sources... agreed.

as for aids, the others will only get aids if they do not notice the blood and also have a cut in their mouths. also, the area that actually touches the bong is small. it is unlikely that one will not notice transferring blood, the same way one with a cut on their hands would notice blood on their hands before shaking with another person.

correlation does not equal causation. it just so happens that the pot culture values a kind of nonchalant rebellious attitude and encourages it. it is this and not the pot that causes them to get lower grades, most often.


also, you should be wary of advice about psychological pathologies from a person that studies something else.

 

I can't online (I don't want to google), I admit.

If your interested as to where I got my information from however:

A drugs expert.
A neurosurgeon.

So it is possible.

It's not unlikely for people to have cuts on their mouth.

I never said it does.

However if pot promotes such culture, then one can postulate that pot indirectly causes in a broad sense, low grades.

The fact of the matter is, irrelevant of a spurious correlation, if it is a very strong positive one, it's still noteworthy.

Probably.
All I can say is, marijuana is no wonder cure-all drugs. There are side effects, and people should be aware of them. Much like their are side effects for many, 'safe' drugs, including Panadol.

 

Again, I understand where you are coming from and your main point is that people should be more aware and i agree with you. So...i am not here to argue or anything but i will just say a couple things.

1. If people need to be aware of marijuana...there are much worse LEGAL things that could be part of their daily lives that they know nothing about. So i think learning about these things first should be priority.

2. I am a PSYCHOLOGY major in uni. I have a B+ average, almost A average. I have smoked weed daily (1-5 times/day) for a few years.

3. about your comment that everyone you know who smokes pot is a c-d student.... this is because people look at it from the completely wrong perspective. It is just because those people are already stupid and it is just people with that personality type that are more prone to rebel or try something like that. Point is: weed doesnt make people stupid, stupid people make weed [look] stupid. Think about it, there are loads of successful/rich/geniuses/or A average students who smoke weed but no one says they are successful/rich/genius/ or A average student because they smoke weed...

4. again, i agree with your final point that ppl should be aware of the risks. but i also think there is still no justification for illegality (i know u are not against it really though, just saying). And still... i think there are much worse, more important [legal] things to worry about/learn risks of than weed.

 

I watched my grandmother die slowly and painfully over the course of a year from breast cancer, her treatments did such terrible things to her body..

the only time she felt better was when I practically forced her to smoke with me. For the first time she didnt feel like throwing up, she didn't have to force feed herself for once.

pot never hurt anyone, but that alone should be enough to sell anyone.

She passed away due to the medicine they gave her. So in heinseight, if pot wasn't illegal the most special person in my life wouldnt be gone right now.

LEGALIZE MARIJUANA!

 

Watch this -> http://www.megavideo.com/?d=RMTZMUG8 (it's me btw, just a 6 minute speech I gave to my class about legalization, it's a practice copy)

And this -> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9077214414651731007#

I've never met a single person who can give me a logical reason for it to stay illegal after watching both of those videos. I have been able to prove every point against it wrong, and have beaten my health teacher in so many arguments about it that my teacher doesn't even spread half the lies the government propaganda tells society.

 

It's obviously not more everyone, and neither is tobacco or alcohol. Those who's family members developed lung cancer from tobacco have a higher risk of developing it as well. Ancestors of alcoholics have a much higher chance of becoming alcoholics even from the first drink, yet both these substances are 100% legal if you are of age. Now I don't think that marijuana should be allowed to be used for every age, but 18+ for medical use, and 21+ for recreational use would be the safest way to go about it.

I have done over 2 years of research on this topic, and in the 83 studies that linked schizophrenia to marijuana, it was only in people who had a predisposition to it, and who were under the age of 14. There has not been a single study that has reproduced these results in ages 18+. It does not CAUSE the schizophrenia, what it does in people who have a predisposition to it and who are 14 or younger, is speed up the development by 2.7 years. Now in adults (18+), this does not occur. This is also why I believe that you should have to be approved by an unbiased doctor before being allowed to buy it. As in, no predisposition, etc.

What it does is temporarily stop the communications between neurons. This is only a temporary excommunication, and goes back to normal shortly after use. This is why there it makes it a little slower to react and think, so obviously it should be done responsibly, and not in any dangerous conditions, such as driving, operating machinery, etc.

 

proof?
nothing says that it actually stops synapses form occurring/

 

This is in a documentary I watched, I forget the name, it was awhile ago. It's why you see different colored spots on the brain when you do brain scans. If you were to scan a bit later, it would look back to normal.

 

you cannot provide citation, correct

different colored spots does not mean a complete halt in the brains synapses.

different colored spots could mean any number of htings, such as they are thinking about something else, and feeling different feelings. jesus, those eeg's could be registering euphoria.

 

From my knowledge, the implementation of the law prohibiting marijuana use was NOT directly because if was 'bad' for you, but for another reason.

Besides, as I've said, banning alcohol at this age isn't pragmatic, and it would lead to major uproar.

How many people have a predisposition to it.
Also, you are aware that kids under 14 smoke it? Lots of them.

Heard of the drink driving law? It gets followed meticulously amirite?

 

I dont think so, i support legalizing maja, and alcohol is legal and as far as i can notice most people seem sober to me

 

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2011/06/23/137372951/ron-paul-barney-frank-to-introduce-bill-that-would-end-pot-prohibition
fuck yes

 

This will probably be my last post in this topic, mostly due to the facts that people like malakadang are incompitent when it comes to actual statistics.
I will go with on the 58% of americans have at least tried pot once in their lives, but the rest of your statistics go to Narnia.
The predisposition to Schizophrenia is smaller than you claim and like I mentioned in a latter post that the chance of marijuana causing the predisposed disease to become a dominant trait is very small and slims down to nothing after the age of 18.
I believe you when you say that you are for legalization almost as much as I believe in Socialism...which is not at all.
If you gave one true fact and supported other peoples arguments instead of posting bullshit I would have more respect for you.
Two, let us look at your AIDS and bong theory I do not know how you have seen a bong smoked before but most people put their mouths into the big hole on the top not around it like a fucking retard.
Even then actual conception of said disease is slim to none because if the "blood" fell into the bong it would do nothing since the water is acting like a filter to begin with.
Referring to your science teacher as a drug expert and your health teacher as a neurosurgeon is brilliant I must say but their community college education can hardly compare.
Look at the odds stacked against your so called help?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9Mo-HyudhQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Md2WNqqxTQ&feature=related
/facepalm
Stop spitting bull.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSKJrgGqx_E&feature=fvwrel

 

Personally i dont smoke marijuana, but i feel it should be legalized since its so commonly used.

 

Yes, which is why I think it should only be legalized for medical use at 18+, and recreational use at 21+ Make it so you require a photo ID Marijuana card so it's harder to get it if you are underage. Obviously if someone is under 14 and is smoking pot, they should be arrested, because very very little people that age can handle marijuana maturely.

Not in a lot of places it doesn't. The town I was just in for 2 and a half weeks, at every party I went it there was over 50 people who all drove drunk.

And also my point was that there should be laws in place, like the drinking law, that prohibits driving, operating machinery, etc. while under the influence of marijuana. Also I believe I read somewhere that in California they are developing a device that can tell if you have smoked marijuana within 4 hours of you doing it, so it can tell if you are still under the influence of it quickly when police pull them over.

 

Na, i don't like it and i forsure don't want people smoking it everywhere.

 

Good luck enforcing it, see below.

So, laws are broken?

You can smoke marijuana a day before and still be under the influence.

However, my point is, what makes you think that marijuana will be any different to alcohol? People will still break the law, and constantly I might add.

 

The effects of alcohol and marijuana when you take too much are very different. With alcohol you get a hangover, you vomit and have a headache. With weed you "whitey". You break into a cold sweat, you want to throw up but can't, you feel really tired but can't sleep.
With weed the effects are very different when you take too much.
I still voted for because it is an amazing experience, the effects just need to be well explained if it is legalised.

 

The billions of dollars we could be making from hemp... there's no argument for this.