4ng scammed me 200m

[Frank0929]

A link to his profile http://www.sythe.org/member.php?u=294785
[email protected] scammer


I have the full video of this but due to it's size (4gb) I can not upload it. I am more then happy to let a mod teamview to watch. Or if needed I could possibly upload to a server and let a mod download it.

I thought he was legit because he upgraded 6 of my accounts the other night. Today he wanted to buy rsgp from me via WU and I handed over 200m. He said it would take an hour for him to get back. So i waited about an hour and ten minutes and decided to add him on my other email address he was in fact at his computer while not responding to my other email. I told him I would like my money rsgp or WU and if he didn't pay I would have to list him here. He logged out on me and stayed logged in on my first email. He will not respond on my other email.


If he were to pay me or give me back my gold I will apologize. But this is a clear scammer. There are around 10 more pictures I just figured this was all that is needed to show he did not pay. Anything else you guys need or questions please do ask.

 

Please post the whole MSN conversion and in-game screenshots(or him confirming he received the GP over MSN). Thanks.

You have 24 hours this is closed, thanks.

 

[Frank0929]

Him in game trading me

him telling me he traded me

trading 200m

trade complete

Telling me he will give me my mtcn when he gets back

I'm going to figure out how to cut down the video and upload clips to youtube. And again if a mod would like to watch the video it has msn chat logs, in game trade, the whole 9 yards. I can always team view.

If you watch the video it shows him buying my gold and then asking for my details and saying he was going to the WU and it would be an hour, ect. He is now logged out of msn. I have before and after of everything.

Now I have to worry about my 6 upgrades from him going negative. One question for you Nick can one do charge backs with a walliecard? it's what he used to make my accounts members. Reason I ask is because he has sold quite a few in the past week maybe 50-100 upgrades. Maybe he might have really scammed 1b or more.

Also, WTRW-craig might be his secondary account. That is just an assumption because he is the one who told me about 4ng.

4ng has scammed many members But since those members didn't screenie anything it didn't go anywhere.... take note he scammed us all in the same world lumby.
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1115945
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?p=8829155

 

[Dalpra]

Apparently it was his brother that scammed you.. His refunding you the 200m, add him on [email protected]

 

[Frank0929]

On msn he said he would pay me back. I wake up and respond then he says i'm a scammer and going to get banned. Then he says to add rsprod because he has my money. Why would I get banned? Also it was never his brother. Why would his brother beg me to buy upgrades right before scamming me? How would his brother know I even sell rsgp. I only told 4ng I sell gold the first few minutes I met him to buy upgrades. Why would his brother use the same account and world that he supposedly scammed other players and sold me upgrades from? Everything about the way he types, talks to me would make me assume it was him and no one else. He also said he only buys gold at max of 50 cents and that's how you can tell it's him. Well yesterday he would only pay 50 cents each so I declined because I have many local buyers and there is no chance of getting scammed so then he bumped it up to 60 cents. I truly think he had a night to sleep on this and probably didn't think I had 100% proof. His "brother" must have taken 4ng's android phone to chat with me via ebuddy.

Now in chat below he says he paid me then later he says rsprod will give me?

FACTS
1. We now know he has the money because of screenshot/video proof. Also told a mod he would refund.
2. He has not refunded me at all.
3. claims he has given my refund to a guy named rsprod. Why doesn't he just give the funds to me?
4. His brother shouldn't have known I buy auths and sell gold.
5. 4ng begs me to buy/sell auths/rsgp everytime he messages me. He did this the moment he scammed me.
6. His "brother" must have taken 4ngs android cellphone to talk to me via Ebuddy.
7. After telling a mod he would happily refund me he instantly called me a scammer on msn.
8. He said he has paid me and then later says rsprod will pay me.
9. He says since rsprod now has the funds he is no longer responsible.
10. He possibly scammed other members. (members had no real proof). Except that they traded him same place,world, account as I did. I even bought auths from him before this and he used same set up.
11. His brother must have known the exact world, place, and account that 4ng uses to trade with.
12. If he was really going to refund me I would already have the money and this thread would be closed.
13. He is his brother.


edit: He is really starting to get on my nerves. What kind of scam is he trying to pull now. Why did he give the funds to someone else besides me? I want my money from him and him only.

 

[Frank0929]

After scamming me from what I understand he told a mod by the name of rsprod that I was trying to scam him(4ng). I think he said that he paid me for the 200m. Then 4ng created an email close to mine frank0992 or something to that extent. He then grouped chat all 3 accounts together and tried to scamm the mod with a fake email similar to mine. So basically he is trying to say I am trying to scamm them out of 400m. So now i am thinking he gave the funds to a mod then they were stolen by 4ngs fake account? I'm not sure what all he is doing but so far from chatting with him that is what I understand. If that is the way it happen then his story already crumbles because he said rsprod has the money to give me.


Firstly you can tell the email in this is not me. Secondly if the mods check all my times in all my photos and responses via email you can tell I was never on nor part of this crafty scam that 4ng is trying to pull. Also he admitted he did not pay me! So that right there makes his story crumble about paying me. He is a sneaky little punk.

So when I found out he was going to give me a refund I was sleeping and didn't receive any messages about this until I woke up. Please check my times I am not lieing. Also a mod is more then welcome to teamview to review my chat logs. My chat has been online from the time I went to bed until now.

That being said I am no kid and I do not need to scam rsgp. I run a gold farm inside my house with a serverator housing 100+ member accounts and I can verify this with any mod via teamview. My only reason for being here is to save money buying memberships. I currently purchase at Target but since I buy in such bulk they are never in supply.

He is harassing me online and will not stop. I want this thief to be banned already. I will comply with any mods request. As for now this scammer is muted on my msn. Chat logs are still up!

Mods I have one crucial piece of evidence that shuts him down and proves these are fake. I will not provide the evidence here as he can change his evidence again. Please message me to see it.

 

[FireZ]

I will personally deal with 4ng after he pays you back

 

[Frank0929]

I will personally deal with 4ng after he pays you back

Firez there is one problem. He gave the money to a mod rsprod while I slept. Created a fake msn of me and scammed the mod out of the 200m. The mod thought he was giving the gold to me. No one ever pmed. By the time I even read my private messages of a mod telling me 4ng was refunding me he had already scammed the mod out of 200m masquerading as me. He did this hours before I read the private message! His whole story is crumbling.


New facts since while I slept 4ng got crafty and tried turning the tables. This is no longer about him trying to pay me back.
1. While I slept he created a fake msn called frank0992 (rsprod provided).
2. told dalpra that he was going to refund me and to add him on msn.( he was on my msn list the whole time! My chat with him has been live for the past 24 hours.
3. When I woke up and read dalpras message she said he would refund me.
4. So I instant messaged him and he said I was a scammer.

Well come to find out he was giving rsprod the money to give back to me. But 4ng created an msn account and all "3" of them met up in game to give me back my gold. The thing is it wasn't me and it was 4ng. He did all this while I slept and before I read dalpras message......how could I have done this all before I even knew he was going to refund me? All the times in all screenies, events happening, message reading can be checked. They only add up in my side and not his. Also once he posts his "proof" i will post my counter. He failed on one detail while masquerading as me. I wish the mod rsprod would have pmed me via sythe before trading.

I can even teamview verify any information needed. I still have my msn chat up with him, video, screenshots, whole 9 yards.
I should have trusted my gut when he kept wanting runescape gold. He was getting very impatient when I was not buying upgrades. I told him to wait until the 15th because that is when my next lot of members expire. As I said I only joined here for upgrades and you will continue to see me buy 100-200 a month. I do not resell these I have a botting farm (serverator) inside my home and can provide proof of this. I find it more economical to purchase upgrades for rsgp than Federal dollar.

His "brother" scamming me in itself is fishy.

also why did he have to tell a mod for me to add him. When he is already on my list and my msn was up all night long. My screenshots prove that and can be viewed by teamviewer... our chat is still up and was up all night since this problem happen. Him telling a mod to tell me to add him is him trying to set up a alibi

 

[FireZ]

Just permed him until he pays you back

 

[Frank0929]

The above is why I'm here, business only. As I said I have no reason to scam anyone. I didn't even want to sell rsgp here only wanted to purchase upgrades. But since he had supplied me with a few upgrades and was paying a little more I made one exception which turned into a nightmare. I thought to myself if this guy was legit it would save me local trips to rsgp buyers. Image is view of one of my multiple teamviewed in house computers running two accounts per open bot.

 

[RsProd]

Confirming that 4ng did give me 200m RSGP.
Confirming that I screwed up here, and gave it to an impostor .
Confirming that I will be paying Frank 200m RSGP from MY OWN pocket.

 

[Frank0929]

Confirming I'm talking to you on "[email protected]" regarding my 200m refund. I am talking to you on the MSN: [email protected]

 

[Frank0929]

Rsprod paid me in full all 200,000,000 Runescape gold pieces.

 

[FireZ]

Good, now 4ng can stay permanently banned.

 

[FireZ]

Permed and his appeals will be automatically denied. His "brother", I don't think so. I am not easily fooled, thanks