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  1. Tuxedo

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    Scam Report
    Reporting Party:
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    Date:
    11/25/2024
    Time Zone: GMT+10:30

    Alleged Scammer:
    @Sand Casino

    Context and Summary:
    Last night, while gambling on Sand Casino's platform, I encountered what seemed to be a bug that doubled my account balance. I can talk about it now as it has since been patched.

    I performed a dh stake for 500 Coins (approx $100 usd), Won and proceeded to withdraw. I changed my mind and cancelled the deposit. At this time my balance doubled. Confused as to what had just happened I submitted and cancelled a withdraw, to my suprise it happened again, my balance had doubled... wtf?

    Unsure if this was a client sided bug (thinking some weird inspect element glitch or something) i proceeded to submit a withdrawl for gp (This goes through @Apollo ) to my suprise this request went through. I went to the discord, asked if Apollo was around and then closed the ticket. No GP was taken and no cashout proceeded.

    I then proceeded to try and cancel the withdraw through the website numerous times (it wouldn't allow me to do this, I also tried to open many chats with the live agent chat each one responding with a dead discord invite to add Sand Casino.) Being 11.50pm at night and work the next day I decided to call it a night and go to bed.

    The next day when I woke up, I logged in to see I had been banned for bug abuse.

    Mind you my "bug abuse" had consisted of the below:

    The initial bug unknowingly
    The bug repeated again because "uhh did that actually just happen"
    A withdrawal request to see if the balance was even actually registered - NOTE: I Did not proceed with the withdraw, I closed the ticket on the discord server and attempted to cancel the withdraw, again no gold was stolen from Sand Casino.

    So from this my legitimate balance of $192~ USD has been taken from me, meanwhile nothing was taken from Sand Casino and the bug has been fixed. I am requesting my legitimate balance to be paid out to me.

    I have approached Sand Casino and he is unwilling to pay out my legitimate balance so I have brought it to Sythe for assistance in this matter.


    Key Points:

    • No funds were actually withdrawn.

    • The bug occurred unintentionally, and I tested it once only to understand what happened.

    • I closed the withdrawal ticket and left it unresolved, assuming I could clarify the issue the next day.
    • I have a history of legitimate use and positive vouches within the community.
    Evidence:
    I have full chat logs avaialble with Sand Casino and I am happy to upload the exported HTML dump or screenshots of these (There is a lot of screenshots.) to any Admins/Staff requiring them. I don't believe Sand Casino will deny these events but do believe he will disagree on the desired outcome unless prompted by Sythe staff to refund.

    Gif Of Discord Chat imgur.com

    Desired Outcome:
    1. Refund of my $192 USD legitimate balance.
    I hope this can be resolved amicably as I value fair play and honesty and would like to avoid escalating the matter further.
     
    Last edited: Nov 25, 2024
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  2. Sand Casino

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    Bug abused, tried to withdraw, and failed. Same bug as the other guy. Here's the chat logs for people who don't want to read through the gif he posted.
    imgur.com
     
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  3. Tuxedo

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    @Sand Casino - Can you please confirm for the sake of the thread that of my balance $192 USD worth was from legitimate play i.e the 500 coin DH all in that I won.

    I would also not liked to be tied in with the other Scam report, Those users actually abused the bug, withdrew gold and essentially scammed Sand Casino.

    I didn't even play a single game nor repeat the balance bug once I realised what caused it.

    I have also reached out to @Apollo So I can have logs provided of me essentially instantly closing the ticket and not proceeding with any withdrawal.
     
    Last edited: Nov 25, 2024
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    Yes you had a balance of $192 then doubled it twice with the bug and tried to cash it. The discord chat speaks for itself, just let the mods review it.
     
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    imgur.com
    Here is more proof that he tried to withdraw it. No where does he mention he wants to report a bug.
     
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  6. Tuxedo

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    Please note that is an automated message provided by the site when instructed how to withdraw gp I cannot access the page as I am banned from the site to show you but it essentially gives you a button to press that you paste into the discord chat resulting in that first message, I did not type that.

    Notice I closed the ticket before any withdrawal or even response from Apollo.
     
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    Yes, you followed the instructions for a withdraw and knowingly sent that message. Not like it auto sends, weak argument.
     
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    I would also like to reiterate during this time live support was unavailable and I was unable to cancel the withdraw using the cancel button so the transaction was just left in a pending state. Apollo did reopen my ticket however I again closed it without trying to proceed.
     
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    Hi @Sand Casino,

    Is there any ToS people agree to before gambling? If so, can you share these ToS and proof of @Tuxedo agreeing to them?
     
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    No explicit ToS yet, but I think something like this is reasonably implied as it is the case on most sites.
     
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    What happened to the $192 balance? Was this refunded?
    If not, are you saying you want to keep this because he attempted to abuse a bug?
     
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    Yes, his account was banned for bug abuse, and the balance was on the account.
     
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    Also he didn't "attempt" to abuse a bug, he abused a bug and tried to withdraw it. If we didn't have the proper security measures in place, he would've stole thousands of dollars from us potentially.
     
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    Gotcha.

    You are of course free to ban them from your website/server, but without any ToS you can't withhold the legitimately obtained funds.
    Please issue a refund to @Tuxedo for the $192.
     
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    Payment has been received from Sand Casino. Thank you.
     
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    Thank you for resolving this.

    It's clear however that @Tuxedo tried to withdraw these funds and only after not getting a response they backed out.
    You will therefore receive a DNT rank and get banned for 1 month as punishment for attempted scamming.
     
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