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  1. Unread #1 - Dec 29, 2022 at 8:20 PM
  2. Justin Langer
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    DISCLAIMER: I AM NOT INVOLVED IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM TO THIS DISPUTE. I AM ONLY HELPING @Dog Water POST THIS REPORT. IF A REPLY IS REQUIRED, HE WILL REPLY ON HIS ACCOUNT.



    Scammers Profile Link: @PlayerStash / Loot4RS & @PinkGP


    Amount Scammed: FB Marketplace Group led by myself (Dog Water) & others for three and a half years.


    Discord ID: Chips N Guac#3541 - 379097307687157761


    Explanation of the Trade: @PlayerStash / Loot4RS & @PinkGP - Hijacked my Marketplace & all persons involved besides himself (PlayerStash) PinkGP can attest, as well as many outside parties.



    We’ve been a team in operation for over three and a half years. On this Marketplace page some of us have never taken a break. Building many pages and groups along the way, the seven of us created a team we can trust. I, myself, am the owner/administrator of many. So six months ago our original groups were banned and removed. We had a few backup pages in case this ever happened. We all agreed that I took over the backup pages as usual. Then, PinkGP would hold them for us. PlayerStash even said “I think it's a good idea, PinkGP. Give them to him. I trust Dogwater 100%.” So I took over revamp, and we all started rebuilding doing what we know and do best.

    Fast forward six months later, PlayerStash begins getting caught doing unethical business tactics in Marketplace on other groups related to ‘FB IE’ (Ex: Customer poaching, reward wheels and referral programs.) This was a website and we have never allowed third-party websites for any of the groups. PlayerStash continued adding my friends I know personally who don’t even play RuneScape thinking they were customers (pictures can be provided.) PlayerStash, then gets banned for breaking group rules. Which is fair, there are rules to these markets and all bans were reasonable. PlayerStash tried to make business deals with the remaining groups he's in, but if they were not to his benefit, no deal was made. He ended up being removed for breaking rules because he couldn’t get his way. He thinks you can pay to win.

    My group was his last shot. The last shot to get his way. He knew eventually we would not put up with his backstabbing tactics or morals that he no longer carried. That we would discover the truth. So his only option was to attempt to overthrow me and steal what I built with others. Everyone knew I was in charge of the pages including himself. His only way to make sure he got his way was by a hostile takeover. Which wasn't even his to take. PlayerStash and PinkGP made a transaction for $1600.00 in order to give PlayerStash full administrative power on the pages even though all admins have access to do so. PlayerStash made a deal behind everyone's backs with PinkGP. PinkGP had no right to release the group for money behind my back. I left him and PlayerStash as admins, because I trusted them. You only need one admin role to take over the page. Regretfully, if I saw this coming and deranked their status this would have never occurred.

    He took control one night and then directly messaged us in the group chat that he was now the owner along with his partner that nobody else knew of. When I realized that he was stealing our groups. I had to be wiser from here on out until I collected all the information as needed since the only person in control now is PlayerStash. Which nobody agreed to before he took over. He did everything behind everyone's backs, and assumed everyone would be okay with it.

    PlayerStash now has control over what isn’t his. Every staff member saw what happened and left. That is not what anybody wanted. We all tried for multiple days to decide a resolution and he wouldn’t. He would tell us to get back to business like he was our boss. So he now has full control. I made a farewell post letting everyone know what he has done. In retaliation, he blocked and banned me everywhere so he couldn't let the truth out. Administrative Logs do not lie. Neither does him lying to mutual customers that I just left and threw a fit. There are so many details I've uncovered the past few weeks and won't disclose unless asked because it just is such a shame what kind of person PlayerStash truly is. Him and I have been on multiple vacations. We just got back from Mexico last month with our significant others. I shared street tacos in matching outfits with this man in a different country. This is deeper than business. This is highway robbery and is attempting it on who he called his best friend.

    Dog Water offers to take over as head admin on the backups after I let everyone know the OG group were removed.There is no more owner role, only admin. PlayerStash, PinkGP and every other staff agreed on Ben taking over after the original pages were banned.

    imgur.com

    PlayerStash’s takeover six months later was bright and early one morning, knowing many of us wouldn’t be on for a good few hours. He already made the switches, meaning he was in full control at this point with nobody agreeing to his changes. I later said yeah whatever, because I had to protect myself from being removed. Until, I got everything I needed. As I saw what was happening, he said, “nothing will change, yet everything changes.” It fits his narrative now.

    imgur.com

    This shows other staff realizing what was happening and calling PlayerStash and his partner (PlayerStash’s brother-in-law) out verbally. PlayerStash removed everyone but himself as admin.

    imgur.com

    PlayerStash has been caught lying to mutual customers about what happened. Him banning me after I post this and letting my community know what's going on. Admin logs don't lie. It will show him banning and removing me shortly after.

    imgur.com

    PlayerStash has yet to make a comment on any of these issues with me. He hasn't even responded to me since December 23rd on FaceBook or Discord. He knows I have him from every angle. Instead he makes a Giant post about @Elysiangp who owns another group who banned @PlayerStash / Loot4RS to try and distract the real issue here from PlayerStash hijacking my pages that I was the lead of. He's tried to silence me by banning my farewell post and removing me from the groups he hijacked. He's been caught lying about it.


    Playerstash trie to do whatever he can to try and make the truth silenced on the forums it matters the most. He mass PMs every other group owner, telling them to ban me and delete my posts. They all decline and will be mentioned in this report to comment. *can show proof if requested*

    Playerstash said this was about the money, then it was about the sales, then it was about pride, then it was about jealousy, he's going to make it about his religion now saying we are anti-semitic even though for 3 years we’ve all joked about his religion with him, and chat logs don't lie, also he isn’t even religious as he may claim.




    My Request: PlayerStash is a thief in the night and he can try and say whatever he wants, but he will do anything to anybody in the name of money. As long as he profits, he will ruin any relationship. He will befriend people for three and a half years to take over what they and many others built to make sure he self-profits. Sadly it's not all about money to me or the guys who built this. We built these groups with rules and moral code and mutual understanding. For Playerstash to just think he can take over is hijacking.

    After I've spoken to hundreds of people these past two weeks many things have come to light. Even on your platform, he has poached customers (@Grant being one.) PlayerStash has no morals and I’d like for this to be reviewed to where he conducts a lot of his business. Poaching customers, spamming other peoples customers, blackmailing other sellers to remove the truth on what i’m posting, incentivizing them to use his narrative. He tried partnering with every seller in order to attempt and gain intel on their customer base *even does so on Sythe* . So that he can eventually try and swindle his way into them. You can ask any major seller he’s involved with. He has offered them many business proposals. Which if you look deeper, it's to gain access to their customer base all while befriending them. Stealing other peoples Marketplace groups while they sleep. Making sure he has full control. These are all unethical tactics in these markets, if this is a person you want to be a part of your marketplace so be it.

    As for @PinkGP involvement - He was charmed by PlayerStash for doing the wrong thing to be on the wrong team for a measly price tag of $1600 he has shown a lot of regret for doing so already. I didn’t want him to be involved but he has to at this point.

    Screenshot proof of him regretting everything.

    imgur.com

    @Sythe, I ask you to allow these guys to comment on the situation. As they are directly affected and were also staff / admins on the pages Playerstash snaked. We are all the staff members and people who built these groups together that have been affected by a direct result from PlayerStash’s actions.

    Also, Sythe if you want, I can communicate with you via discord as there are alot of screenshots / messages with alot of DOX material, and sensitive. I’d like to share many more photos that support the topic at hand today.


    @Mikeyfarmz

    @Oshy

    @Vbt

    @Elysiangp

    @MrNastyDJ
     
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  3. Unread #2 - Dec 30, 2022 at 3:56 AM
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    Hi I'm dog water or Bens Services as many know me by in the market, I will comment anything needed or DM staff as needed. I have no idea how your platform works, and honestly needed help getting here today as why @Justin Langer offered to help me get it started.
    Playerstash has blocked me on every way of contact, and has showed no remorse on his actions, hes only tried to silence what i'm trying to get out to our communitys, so here we are today.
     
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  5. Unread #3 - Dec 30, 2022 at 5:09 AM
  6. PlayerStash / Loot4RS
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    Let’s start this report mentioning that Dog Water is a known scammer/evader.
    Dog water + other pardon


    The report is titled “PlayerStash Hijacks Huge Platform” so let’s go over the alleged hi-jacking and prove why it’s false. Once it is proven false, this case is over. All of Dog Water other emotional points have no reason to be in this report.

    MAIN SCREENSHOTS THAT Dog Water DOESN’T WANT YOU TO SEE (17 days before any drama)

    imgur.com (what has a pink line next to it is PinkGP while the blue is me and the rest is Dog Water)



    PlayerStash / Loot4RS - In regards to buying the group “It didn’t happen yet”
    PlayerStash / Loot4RS - “I know bro, I'm honestly fine with letting PinkGP own it”
    Dog Water - “It’s all good bro, I really don’t care”
    Dog Water - “As long as you don’t go around parading your group owner and shit, idc”
    Dog Water - “I’m not mad or anything”
    Dog Water - “I’m not mad dw”
    Dog Water - “It’s ok, you paid him, I didn’t”

    HE FAILED to post and left out THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTS

    BEFORE I HAD OWNERSHIP, Dog Water AGREED TO THE ARRANGEMENT OF MY OWNERSHIP AND PURCHASE OF THE GROUP, whether he claims he owned it or not. (HE DIDN'T) Doesn’t even matter. He agreed that I can take ownership and pay PinkGP.


    If the group was his, why wouldn't he say it was his? If this group was his, why would he allow me to pay PinkGP for it? WHAT ELSE IS HE LEAVING OUT? HIS REPORT CANNOT BE TRUSTED.

    I apologize about the caps, but Dog Water has taken the liberty to share this spread of lies and hate, and it's important to me that I can link people to this report who question my credibility.





    TLDR: We all moved to PinkGP 's group after the last 1 was banned. We all used and grew it but I clearly contributed the most. Dog Water somehow thinks it's his group but he never had ownership. PinkGP had full ownership and power until I bought that. Dog Water was fine with it and didn’t care prior to the purchase but had a change of heart 3 weeks later. The only power that Dog Water didn’t have was the power to kick me out which I told him I was not giving to him. He was able to continue doing services, gold sales, and anything else he wanted to do but he could not kick me out. He didn’t have that power EVER. PinkGP had that power since he was always the owner. My competition is upset that they can’t compete with me and I’m selling more than the rest of them so their solution was to team up all together to form a false report.

    Sorry Dog Water but Sythe looks at facts. They don’t look at your feelings or care about how many other Sythe members you tag that are competing with me.

    Chain of events :

    1 - (around May of 2022) Some big groups were banned around 7 months ago and PinkGP had a group that was already established with members we could all begin using. No ownership was ever changed. PinkGP had the ultimate power to sell, remove or change anything he wants to. It was and always was his group and we were all staff.

    2 - (around November of 2022) 6 months pass by of all of us working together to grow the group. Dog Water is speaking like he was the leader and morally “deserves” a group that was never his when here are some interesting numbers between November 1st - December 23rd (the day I had to remove him). I can screen share with any mod and show the full extent all the way 6 months back or count them if needed and I am confident similar ratios will hold all the way back 6 months. My apologies if I miss some but this will give you an idea.

    Numbers of posts by PlayerStash / Loot4RS - 37
    Numbers of posts that include PlayerStash / Loot4RS (mainly vouches) - 65

    Numbers of posts by Dog Water - 6
    Number of posts that include Dog Water (mainly vouches) - 2

    Numbers of posts by Mikeyfarmz - 4
    Numbers of posts that include Mikeyfarmz (mainly vouches) - 0

    Numbers of posts by Oshy - 1
    Numbers of posts that include Oshy (mainly vouches) - 0

    Numbers of posts by Elysiangp - 2
    Number of posts that include Elysiangp (mainly vouches) - 0

    Numbers of posts by Vbt - 0
    Number of posts that include Vbt (mainly vouches) - 0

    Numbers of posts by PinkGP - 2
    Numbers of posts that include PinkGP - 0


    imgur.com (CHART SHOWING CONTRIBUTIONS)

    85.7% of posts included me while 14.3% of posts included all of them combined.


    Another way you can look at group contributions is to look at how many posts and people were approved, removed, and declined by staff.


    From 11/1/22-12/23/22
    Total activity:


    Dog Water - 58

    PlayerStash / Loot4RS - 313


    In fact, compared to every other staff member combined, I personally contributed more.

    - It is pretty clear that I was the leader in this group if someone is a leader based on their contribution. Unfortunately though, that’s not the case. PinkGP was still the owner and always has been.

    3 - (Early December) I reached out to PinkGP about buying ownership in his group. I proposed this offer to PinkGP to secure my protection in not being muted or unable to sell. I told him that absolutely nothing will change and everyone who was selling gold / providing services is free to do so just like they’ve always been. The only change is that PinkGP will no longer have control of the group, I will. That’s all I wanted and all I got.

    Dog Water should be happy something like this happened. Someone he doesn’t know very well is giving ownership of the group to someone he does know well. It secured him the ability to sell gold and do services while I do 85.7% of the work.

    4 - (After talking to PinkGP about it) I reached out to Dog Water and told him how I am going to purchase the group and his abilities to operate won’t change. I DIDN'T purchase the group yet. I reached out to talk to him about it and said that if he was upset about it, I would not do it at all. He was confused at first but after I explained how I am working too hard to be told that I cannot sell because of jealousy from competition, he said he understood. He said he doesn’t care. Let's be clear, I didn't even need his approval. He didn't own the group.

    - He acknowledges here that he didn’t own the group or he would have stopped me from paying PinkGP. He knows he didn’t and if ownership is based on “contribution”, then it would be me.

    imgur.com


    5 - Ownership of the group changed and now I had full power. 3 weeks went by where Dog Water, PinkGP, Mikeyfarmz, Vbt, Oshy, Elysiangp were all allowed to still operate completely freely under my ownership. I didn’t change anything about the group.

    6 - (December 22nd and 23rd 2022) Fast forward 3 weeks, Dog Water decides that it’s not fair that I own the group now. He states that it's not fair because it was supposed to be his. I don’t know if he woke up on the wrong side of the bed or what. The first message from a guy who keeps claiming he was my friend was a massive threat, rather than just communicating his concerns.

    (happy to share my screen and fully share all conversations about the situation with a mod/staff also see deleted for other images I may add) Imgur: The magic of the Internet

    7 - Dog Water remained in the group and first made a post depicting me as a terrible person. I deleted his comment and said that won’t be allowed. He did it again! I deleted his comment again and muted him for 3 days. He did it a 3rd time in the community chat for the group or anywhere else he can find while spamming every POST on the page and that’s when I had to remove him. He left me zero choice.

    What happened next?

    I will be opening a SYTHE REPORT regarding all the Anti-Semitism, attacking me, and writing false information in another report you can expect.
     
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  7. Unread #4 - Dec 30, 2022 at 11:05 AM
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    As part of this, I do feel the need to state a few things.
    While I’m not as active of a seller, I did spend years with this group of lads building our reputation.

    We have always had a rule about websites / discords not being a part of our market. In fact it was even a rule in these groups(might still be). We let @PlayerStash / Loot4RS operate around these rules because we trusted his process that no one’s information would get leaked, and he would not use it as leverage over anyone else.

    When he announced he was taking over, no one came out and said yes we agree with no terms. In fact, he promised no changes in rank and no change to daily operation.

    We feel this was violated as it was terms.

    @PlayerStash / Loot4RS brought a 3rd party in who we have never spoken to(still) and made this person #1 in charge, then this person demoted all of us to moderator status(change in rank).

    Two terms were violated.
    1. @PlayerStash / Loot4RS would run the group(he is not as his boss is now the owner)
    2. No one would receive rank changes.


    I would like to add that his metrics look very nice towards him but, his vouches are mostly all giveaways. Where you spin a wheel and get a prize.
    I could do a 3m giveaway to the whole group too but it just skews the metrics.
    We also have always deleted our old post before posting new, to not clutter the page. @Justin Langer knows this rule very well.
     
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  9. Unread #5 - Dec 30, 2022 at 11:50 AM
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    Hiya, I've been mentioned a few times now so ill share what I have, we have been running these groups as a team for years, Player stash was only really active with this team for about 7 months, so he didn't really see all the rules we had in place, but since it was him and we thought of him as a best friend, we allowed things we normally wouldn't have. All of the numbers are because he didn't follow the rules, rules among staff were you either delete your old post and make a new 1, or bump your old posts, but of course he left out how much engagement was on those posts. But as you said sythe looks at facts, so I'll just describe and share these screenshots.

    Screenshots will be deleted due to sensitive personal info.

    Conversations among the original staff, which player stash was a part of, but of course didn't see because he was perm afk. Clearly stating to delete old posts, and most of the staff kept that going up until we left the groups.


    Player stash stating if anyone's mad (we all were and left the group) he wasn't doing it, also Dogwater Clearly stating he was only ok with it if we stayed admin, and no funny business (there's been a lot of that as well)


    Player stash asking about how the process is for admins and removing them, Player stash pitching the idea of his "partner" being an admin, while everyone else stays mod, and Dogwater's response of continuing to be admin.


    The initial message stating that our ranks will not change, I myself was an admin in one of the groups, and a mod in the other.


    Pink GP stating that part of the deal was that everything be done as a group vote (how we have always done it) but clearly that doesn't count if its not part of Player stash's agenda.

    Dogwater asking why when he took over the groups, is pink gp selling, which Pink gp stats he hasn't done it yet and is waiting on us to check.


    Player stash stating nothing changes, and even said literally, so I'd like to assume that include our ranks in the group.



    As you can see from the start, this wasn't an option, he just tried to make it seem to us like it was. He has 1 agenda, and he was doing it weather we were leaving or not. Hes been active for a few months in a community we built for years.
     
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  11. Unread #6 - Dec 30, 2022 at 12:58 PM
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    @PlayerStash - Lets make one thing clear, you and everyone knows I was DNT on sythe for years, and you yourself knows I'm not a scammer, I deal in high value trades all day everyday, ive worked for some of the biggest plugs in the market & many of the people on sythe can vouch for that. My original ban in 2015 was for blackmailing a rsps gold seller. So please quit trying to divert the attention away from you like you have for weeks. Also you helped me try and pardon months ago and figure sythe out. imgur.com

    @PlayerStash - you can say I agree to all these things, because I did. But I only agreed because Dec. 3rd we woke up to this message imgur.com

    @PlayerStash all your defense are days later, when you already had full control, & myself clearly upset at what was going on. I agreed so you didn't remove me and I had to gather my case. I held no cards anymore only you did. It was your way or the highway, just like every other marketplace you've been banned from, if Playerstash couldn't make a deal with the owners, or broke rules they were the bad guy and in the wrong. In return he ended up banned alot of place.

    @PlayerStash - how about the 3 years before hand, when you werent active nor were you doing anything on the pages? Those numbers mean absolutely nothing. You started 6 months ago also have a partner who works on your acc which non of us do, when we bent the rules for you to break, you got comfortable and confident, and look where its got you. Id bet my entire networth, if we could grab the old admin logs from the previous 3 years id have 50x more numbers than you. Also we deleted our posts when we made new ones, unlike you who spammed the entire market so everyone saw your name. Which again was another rule that was broke.

    @PlayerStash - you can say we are anti your religion all you want there is many proof of us joking with you for years about it. You even stated your not religious lol. Quit trying to grasp for everything possible. These comments only matter now to you, because we are now enemys instead of the "bestfriends" you once claimed we were.
    imgur.com

    Oh may I mention aswell, Playerstash / loot4rs is two people. Himself, and his brother in law who is the one tried taking over that nobody knows.

    what else playerstash?
     
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  13. Unread #7 - Dec 30, 2022 at 4:21 PM
  14. PlayerStash / Loot4RS
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    Hello Vbt. Please focus on the report at hand which is accusing me of hi-jacking or stealing this from Dog Water.

    I have just one question for you? Was this your group to give, sell, or decide when it can be sold?

    If the answer is no, which it is, then no offense, but you are not relevant since you’re not the owner, not claiming to be the owner, have contributed nearly nothing to the group, and don’t have a say.


    You said two terms were violated

    I stated to you many times that I’d be happy to change the owner to my own account. This setup was done on purpose so we can all be looked at equally and the owner is just an inactive account.


    Dog Water stated “As long as you don’t go around parading that ur a group owner and shit idc”


    so yeah, I put that account as the owner while all of us were the same and viewed equally. I didn’t want an unfair edge above any of you guys.


    I informed all of them that we’d all be the same so I don’t appear above them. I offered to change the owner account to my own which could have been fixed within an hour but that was just ignored every time I offered it because that wasn’t the true problem for them at all. I told Vbt that I have no problem using my own account as the owner if that satisfies him and he replied back with him leaving the group. He didn’t want to acknowledge that I was solving his problem and he left.

    Sorry you feel that way Vbt





    And now Mikeyfarmz, please check the chats of December 7th where I told Dog Water that I will be making the alt account the owner and we’d all be the same ranks.

    Some other quotes from Dog Water in this conversation about all of us being the same rank.

    - “I’m not mad https://www.sythe.org/members/playerstash-loot4rs.1063173/”

    • “It just hurts because I see your point of view”

    • “I’m not worried”

    • "but ya idc honestly"


      Like Vbt, you were not the owner Mikeyfarmz, you’re not claiming to be the owner, so I don’t know why you’re replying in this report either about your feelings.




    Sythe staff. I ask that to not let this thread get convoluted that you ask all parties except Dog Water to leave out their feelings or opinions. Dog Water is the only one claiming ownership of something he never owned and that is the case at hand. The rest of these people can share their feelings with him and he can add their feelings to the report if he chooses to do so. Nobody else is relevant to this report but Dog Water, myself, and PinkGP.
     
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  15. Unread #8 - Dec 30, 2022 at 4:50 PM
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    Dog Water, this report is about you accusing me of hi-jacking a group from you.


    - The image you showed is not even about the group we’re talking about right now so please focus on what’s being questioned. That is a completely different group and PinkGP gave me that 1 for free. You didn’t care because that group is dead and full of fake members. PinkGP gave me that group for free.


    Again, I question your credibility for even referencing that group to show a different date/time than the group we’re even talking about in this report.


    Dog Water claimed I hijacked a group, but in this very report above, he admits he agreed to it.


    “you can say I agree to all these things, because I did”


    Which is him clearly stating he agreed to me taking ownership of the group, which is beside the fact that he didn’t own it. PinkGP did.

    This should raise a question of his ethics of this entire report to tarnish my name. He knows he agreed. He admits above, but failed to disclose the screenshot nor mention it in his report but has used misleading information all over the internet about me hijacking a group including this report to try to tarnish my name.



    “all your defense are days later, when you already had full control, & myself clearly upset at what was going on.”

    This did not occur days later, the screenshot of you “agreeing” takes place


    December 6th at 1:52 PM EST is when these screenshots take place Imgur: The magic of the Internet where I told Dog Water I am fine with canceling the purchase and some of his quotes were
    - “idc it is what it is”
    - “its all good bro i really dont care”
    - “aslong as you don’t go around parading ur a group owner and shit idc”
    - “im not mad or anything”

    Another important quote at the end of this conversation was Dog Water saying “if anything PinkGP should of dm’ed me and said hey im giving it to https://www.sythe.org/members/playerstash-loot4rs.1063173/”. This is another quote that shows he never owned it and said PinkGP should of reached out to him but PinkGP had no obligation to do that. Image below.

    imgur.com


    December 6th at 8:40 PM EST is when I became owner -

    imgur.com



    His argument “days later” is not valid and him agreeing clearly happened roughly 7 hours before.

    Screenshots provided.


    Once again, false information that is clearly not fact is his core argument.


    I will be posting the public anti-Semitsm in a separate report since this report is about a hijacking.


    If there is something else Sythe staff would like to know, please ask me and I can screen share or provide anything else. I have nothing to hide and I’m happy to show all conversations and all time stamps.
     
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  17. Unread #9 - Dec 30, 2022 at 5:50 PM
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    @PlayerStash / Loot4RS You can use word play all you want, thats what your best at is trying to retain people thats what your business model is. Sadly your tactics are highly unethical and what is being posted is nothing but facts and you did what you did because you knew we were going to find out what you truly wanted, on everyones behalf everyone tagged is directly effected by what you've done, they dont agree so you've banned them which is unjust and not how we built these groups, its crazy how you're the guy you used to talk about hating on our marketplaces. There is a reason your banned from every group and its for breaching rules. Our group was the only one who let you slide.


    Sythe you can decide what truly happened, not @PlayerStash / Loot4RS narrative, ask anyone involved in our markets there is a reason he resorted to this. The biggest names are all tagged above on my first reply.
    Like I told you @PlayerStash / Loot4RS the truth on you and what you do to people, all in the name of money will get out. This isn't just about you hijacking, this is about you thinking you can get away with some very shady shit.
    As for @PinkGP involvement clearly, he didnt want this to go down the way it is, nobody did. Except you.



    This will be my last comment until staff reply not much more is needed to be said, and I wont drag on from what really happened.
    Some key points to this massive mess


    TLDR: Playerstash knew he was going to be caught eventually by his last remaining marketplace group on FB * reasons he is banned on every other active group *. His only option was to get full control of the last remaining foundation he can work on. He assumed everyone would be on his side, sadly that didnt happen and nobody was on his side. He took full control, before even discussing with anyone. Roles were already switched before any mention. Him doing his takeover exposed his clear motives, and everything started coming to light. Word moves quick in these markets.


    @PlayerStash / Loot4RS asking one of the biggest names on sythe to work for him, which so happens to be a very good friend of mine. He told playerstash no its dead, and playerstash said this. imgur.com its no mystery how he got these customers, he was snaking groups and its no mystery on why he asked this seller the day before his take over. He was caught adding my irl friends who have no relation to runescape, adding other sellers friends trying to incentize them with rewards wheels and his website Fbosrs.com Which clearly here on the rules where he hijacked me - it states no goldwebsites or gambling two rules he broke. That we let slide sadly rule #4 clear as day imgur.com as you can see aswell, the only staff left are @PlayerStash / Loot4RS and his partner, and @PinkGP, every other staff member involved has since been removed. The pillars of our community gone, all so @PlayerStash / Loot4RS reputation doesnt get damaged by stating the truth on his shitty attempt of a takeover.

    Playerstash trying to get me to hire his wife Imgur: The magic of the Internet

    Him trying to convince every other staff member / group owners take down my posts and Ban me, all because they dont agree with @PlayerStash / Loot4RS narrative, he doesnt want the truth to get out. imgur.com as you can tell by his statements, he wants people to just take his side always. @Elysiangp @Mikeyfarmz @MrNastyDJ

    A mutual customer asking why he banned me, him not saying anything and that he will win the sythe report days before it was even made. imgur.com

    This report is more than just him Hijacking, thats just what brought us here today. This was someone who said I was his best friend / friends to many of us imgur.com him stating that earlier this month, somebody who I've travelled with, somebody I built with, all to try to make it his own, and sadly none of us believe in that or worked for yearsfor that to happen. Thats why he is trying to silence the truth. Wish I saw the signs sooner but obviously he is good at working people.

    I wont be replying to his threads of this and that, also I don't care if you make a seperate report on me about whatever you wish. I don't operate here, you do unfortunately. This hasn't effeceted my business negatively in the slightest, but to you @PlayerStash / Loot4RS it has.

    Hope everyone has a blessed new year, and bright days in 2023. Nothing but good fortune and health.
     
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  19. Unread #10 - Dec 30, 2022 at 6:51 PM
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    https://www.sythe.org/members/dog-water.1512704/ is grasping at anything possible. The facts are clear and the report is about a group hijack that he made the headline and main topic and he seems to evade the points. If any of the discredit was true, a Sythe report would be made about these topics, but they are false. I don't know what me asking you about letting my wife do services for you has to do with anything. She was looking for a job o.0 Why shame her?

    By word play do you mean quotes?

    1 - https://www.sythe.org/members/dog-water.1512704/ has accused me of hijacking his group.
    2 - https://www.sythe.org/members/dog-water.1512704/ never owned the group
    3 - https://www.sythe.org/members/pinkgp.787741/ could do whatever he wanted with the group at any time
    4 - https://www.sythe.org/members/dog-water.1512704/ was able to do everything he did when I bought the ownership, and instead of https://www.sythe.org/members/pinkgp.787741/ having the highest power, I did
    5 - https://www.sythe.org/members/dog-water.1512704/ got himself banned spreading hate, spamming everyone, and posting everywhere that probably reached 10,000+ people through group posts, private dm’s, and commenting on posts. He should have started with a Sythe report because it's clear to see https://www.sythe.org/members/pinkgp.787741/ owned it and https://www.sythe.org/members/dog-water.1512704/ is not entitled to it. That’s why you can see me urging him to report me rather than spread lies.
    6 - https://www.sythe.org/members/pinkgp.787741/ only regrets getting your panties in a bunch and you causing a ruckus. He doesn’t regret that the sale happened because it didn’t affect his business or abilities at all.
    7 - How can I hijack your group if you don't own it? https://www.sythe.org/members/pinkgp.787741/ owned it. It wasn’t hijacked. I paid him.

    It’s very nice to know that you don’t care about your reputation on Sythe since you don’t operate here and would be willing to do anything to tarnish my name.

    https://imgur.com/a/DYl1VFf

    Happy New Years Everybody
     
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  21. Unread #11 - Jan 7, 2023 at 1:14 PM
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    if pink wasn't the owner why did he have complete ownership of the group when he sold it to playerstash?
     
  23. Unread #12 - Jan 7, 2023 at 1:20 PM
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    The groups run on Admins, and moderators there is no "Owner role" to the group, any admin can take over as none of us were the OG creators of the page, if the group has multiple admins which it did, anyone can take them over. That was the issue. After I took over 6 months ago, I left them as admins because I trusted them, If I did simply what playerstash and demoted everyone and kept myself as admin this would have never happened. They made a deal behind everyones back to give Playerstash the group which shouldn't have even been made with PINKGP, we all agreed I take over, playerstash did this so could continue breaking rules, and doing unethical tactics without having to face being removed.
     
  25. Unread #13 - Jan 7, 2023 at 1:22 PM
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    Staff check deleted, showing it was discussed, and how things would happen. I said I stay admin and no funny business. Which I was then demoted and removed and lots of funny business happened. This is why we are here today.
     
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  27. Unread #14 - Jan 7, 2023 at 1:25 PM
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    so the og of the group isn't around anymore or left, or whatever, who was left ultimately in charge?
     
  29. Unread #15 - Jan 7, 2023 at 1:28 PM
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    PinkGP was the "admin" of the backups, then if you look 6 months ago I agree to take over and revamp the currently Hijacked pages, beacuse our Main page got removed as I was incontrol of all the other groups and always in lead, with everyone even Playerstash and PinkGP agreeing. Then 6 months go by they decide to make a deal behind everyones back with playerstash paying pinkgp 1600$ to protect himself from being removed. He did this because he knew it was a matter of time before we all figured out what he was doing behind our backs.

    May I add Pinkgp, never once reached out to me about this deal until they made it happen between them. The guy who was always the lead admin, and made all the big plays isn't included in the potential sale of the page he built? He did it behind everyones back. Because they knew it wasnt right.
     
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  31. Unread #16 - Jan 7, 2023 at 1:39 PM
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    so pinkgp made this backup page?
     
  33. Unread #17 - Jan 7, 2023 at 1:46 PM
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    PinkGP was the admin of the backups. He held them incase our main pages I was incontrol of got removed, which they did. Then when our main page got removed, we all discussed I take over the backups and revamp and we rebuild as we always have, which him and playerstash both agreed too. PINKGP is never active and goes missing for many months at a time. He has never been at the lead of our pages nor has ever helped on any resolution behind the scenes. Hence why I said ya I'll take over the backups 6 months ago aslong as I'm the lead admin making all the big changes, And everyone on our entire staff team agreed, including both of them. If I would have simply demoted everyone 6 months ago, this would have never happend. I left both PinkGP and playerstash admins, because I trusted them both for over 3.5 years.
     
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  35. Unread #18 - Jan 7, 2023 at 1:49 PM
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    can you just answer the question, did he make this backup page? you keep saying he was the admin, and you were all admins. i'm asking if he made this backup page
     
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  37. Unread #19 - Jan 7, 2023 at 1:51 PM
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    I don't believe so. There was an alt in the group called "Jake sting" who was also and admin, and nobody knew. Which was removed after Playerstash took over, and PINKGP is now a mod. I dont believe thats a possibility if he was the creator.
     
  39. Unread #20 - Jan 7, 2023 at 2:05 PM
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    Check most recent deleted, Pinkgp stating that wasnt his group before he got it. The backup pages. So no he wasnt the creator.
     
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