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Scammer's profile link: CodyBanks
Amount scammed: Approximately $1494. Around $1025 for his own personal orders and $470 that the clients paid him that he has not paid the workers.
Discord ID + Unique Discord ID: Tryhard#2609 + 474799042275049494
Proof that it's their Discord: Already been posted here Plug Services - Cautionary Report
Explanation of the trade: Got paid from several clients and placed his own personal orders
How they scammed:
He placed several orders (around 15 accounts that personally belong to him) and took money from clients for orders that were finished or are still in progress and still have yet to pay the workers anything. The head of the workers (He goes by Itman) has been trying to contact him for a long time and he has not responded. One of the clients has also tried to contact him but he was blocked. I believe this is shown in the other thread (linked above) made by @Departure


Other relevant trade screenshots:
His conversations with Itman: imgur.com




An explanation of what happened:
Idk where to start tbh. Itman is a Venezuelan OSRS worker who worked for Tryhard AKA Codybanks. He is the head of the team of workers that previously worked for Tryhard.

I contacted itman after he completed services for me through tryhard to thank him. We chatted a bit and I was interested in knowing how he and tryhard met because I was also interested in starting my own service with my own vision. He then said he wanted to work together and I told him I'd think about it. After sometime I decided to give it a go and I started a server with him.
Tryhard was not happy about this. Itman had lied to him about working with me because I assume he was scared. I explained to Itman that this wasn't a nice thing to do and that he is free to work with whoever he wants as long as he is transparent with me. I simply asked him to not conduct any private deals for the safety of my server.
Quickly after this, my deal with itman fell through due to misunderstanding and he made some impulsive decisions that disappointed me. We had a falling out due to this and our partnership ended. I continued to build my server on my own and found other workers.
A couple of days ago Itman reached out to me and apologized for what happened and I decided to give him a second chance. It turns out that Tryhard hasn't been answering his customers and he up and left his own server. He left Itman in charge and Itman wanted to invite me to it to help him but I told him to explicitly ask Tryhard for permission first as I did not want to go on his server without his consent.

After taking over Tryhard's server, I told everyone that anyone with an existing order can move over to my server since Tryhard's server is effectively dead. And that I'll make sure to keep them updated since the same workers that were doing these services are my workers too. I even offered to let them carry over their current discounts and offered them free upgrades.

I have no ill will towards Tryhard. He seems to be angry at me because his workers changed jobs. I never asked them to stop working for him. They can work with whoever they please at anytime.

I am making this report on behalf of the workers since they are my workers and their previous boss hasn't paid what he owes the workers.



EDIT: The workers were instructed to place an email on Tryhard's personal accounts since they were not registered. They were told to only do that in case we don't hear anything. They were also told to not do anything with the accounts and simply secure them with an email until further instructions from Sythe admins regarding this dispute. This was done to try to salvage something in case he doesn't pay what he owes.



Let me clarify, Oracle OSRS Services does not have ANYTHING to do with Plug services/Tryhard's server. We simply share/shared some of the same workers. I am simply trying to make sure my workers get paid what they owed and their customers get what they asked for.

 

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Few minutes after I posted this thread Itman has sent me this :
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So it seems like he will be paying tonight.

I would like to keep this thread open until the payment has been made. After that you guys are free to close it / delete it.

 

EDIT: The workers were instructed to place an email on Tryhard's personal accounts since they were not registered. They were told to only do that in case we don't hear anything. They were also told to not do anything with the accounts and simply secure them with an email until further instructions from Sythe admins regarding this dispute. This was done to try to salvage something in case he doesn't pay what he owes.


You can pay them for these accounts bro.

The sole intention was to sell them. There are worthless to me now. They registered an email on them, changed the passwords, and then are demanding payment- what about my membership code and all my GP on the accounts? How do I sell these when I have no rep now?

You guys can reimburse that or pay the workers idgaf but you're not going to in a sense "scam" me.

I gave you guys my discord, gave you what you wanted because he didn't want to work with me which is fine.


Then in exchange you guys are trying to extort me, threaten to swat me over Discord and more? ITMan has been demanding / asking for ALL payments for every account for weeks now, and he's a venezulan who makes $50/100 monthly. Why on earth would I send this kid 10-20x his monthly wage when he lies to me over working with someone else that I don't give two fucks about? You think I trust him? He's a venezulan and will probably scam it after he gets it, I hope he does tbh.


The money has been sent for the accounts you guys didn't steal

 

The debt isn't even to this clown.
It's been paid for the accounts they didn't try to steal and extort me for, i literally didn't find out they changed the passwords to them until i logged in to check the progress for partial payments.

fuck this shit

 

no ill will huh?

blackmail, extortion, threats of swatting? Damn sure seems like no ill will.


I really wish you would fucking swat me I'll show up and swat you myself so fast you don't know me

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really lovely to do 3 12 hour shifts back to back and come home to you lil internet warriors.

 

These are accounts that YOU ordered. You went AWOL and did not respond to either customers or the workers. The workers panicked and we had to do something until this issue was resolved.
The accounts were not touched beyond the services you asked for. Other than that the workers were instructed to place an email and change the password until this issue is resolved by Sythe admins. We're happy to change the email and password to your own when payment has been made.

As for your discord, it is as you left it and regardless what you think of me for "stealing" your workers, it is your server and I'm happy to give it to you whenever you want it down the line.


As for the GP on the accounts, that GP was used up because you've ordered several SoTe accounts and med-high end builds. Your GP was not "stolen". It was used for the very same accounts that you're now refusing to pay for. As for memberships, they run out lol, take that up with jagex.


I'm not trying to extort you. I couldn't give two shits about you. I'm just trying to make sure the workers get paid what they were promised. I don't know what you mean with we tried to "swat" you over discord. As for your other insulting comments, I'll ignore them.

I never said the debt is mine. Read the thread. They belong to the workers that work for me.

As of right now, only $529 of the total amount owed has been paid @Yoshiki

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I have absolutely no idea who this guy is and no one was ever told to send you shit like that.
Screenshots of messages between you and I and Itman were posted on YOUR discord that you left high and dry for shit YOU did. So if someone from your dead server said something to you I do not condone it but it is not my responsibility.


EDIT: He's not even in your server. So either this guy is a troll or its someone you set up to say shit like that to you / your alt
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If i wanted to scam the workers, I could've changed the passwords before even giving you the server or even saying anything to anyone. You told them to put an email on it. It was your decision, I'm no longer interested in paying full value and I simply won't.


why on earth would I scam after a little over 24 hours of being MIA when I could've did it much cleaner without actually taking a hit?

Why on earth wouldn't I of changed the passwords before giving over the server? Why on earth would I leave the passwords the same for so long?

You're so delusional and were in the wrong here I don't give a rats ass what you say.

Regardless or not if you know the dude, he's affiliated with you and "your workers" in some way clearly. Not cool and I don't take that lightly.

 

It is what it is, you guys got what you're going to get out of me the customers money plus the work done for the accounts not stolen/extorted I paid for. Accounts aren't even finished and I paid the workers very generously considering the ToS with the workers stating that if its more than a few days late they get 40% of the work and almost every single account besides the 35 days one are super late.


I don't care anymore, swat me, do what you gotta do. Enjoy the server, hope it goes well for you.

 

been offline for over 24 hours, yes I made an Alt just to say some shit like that.

Probably your alt or one of your buddies.

The link is Kataal

"Your workers" are Kataal's workers. $100DONOR✅COLDPAYMENT AIO SERVICE✅all 1-99 skill ONLY HAND DONE - CHEAP✅ +600 VOUCHES✅

The guy is affiliated with your workers like I said.


This is literally all I'm going to say, I'm done with Sythe.

Do whatever you gotta do like I said.

 

That was me. The workers panicked since tryhard has not been responsive to either itman or anyone else including customers.

they were instructed to simply register an email and keep it that way until we know what to do. Other than that they did nothing to the accounts except the services that he ordered.
itman informed him that we can send him an email and pass change request on any of the accounts the workers temporarily claimed if he's willing to pay for the progresses that happened on the accounts.


EDIT: Let me clarify, this was only done on the accounts that belonged to tryhard. The workers continued to service other client's accounts as initially ordered despite not knowing whether tryhard was going to pay or not.

 

Alright, so this will be my last reply. If you really want to play this you can reinvite me back to both discords and I will post probably close to 50 screenshots that you are slandering, extorting, and blackmailing me
if you guys didn't delete the messages. Keeep in mind discord does show deleted messages in the moderation logs so if you did I'd know.. Do you wanna do this? Cause we can surely play this game.

1) You are the problem, sure Itman made a server with you and I told him I wouldn't continue to put my time and money into it, yet I still let him work with you behind my back and lie to me about it. https://i.imgur.com/AVwZ1wI.png
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2) I still made the payments and told the kid I did not trust him. He was still demanding payments for EVERY ACCOUNT, mine plus customers that are YET TO BE COMPLETED. RED FLAG RED FLAG RED FLAG.
3) ItMan knew I worked a lot and had long days and there would be days he would have to do everything, and he was fine with this until he started working with you and you putting ideas in his head that bots can run for a month straight and you will give him 30% of the profits of each bot account after a month of botting. DELUSIONAL LOL
4) What made you think you had any right to tell the workers what todo with orders from MY DISCORD? Even if I left it. Even if we "SHARE" workers, aka ITMan lying to me and stealing Kataal's workers when I told him only his IRL friends.
5) The total amount includes if the accounts were completed, and the total amount of the ORDERS from my SERVER. Not how much was owed to the workers upon completion. I still did not owe anything, I sent the money out of respect to get this over with. I told ItMAN i would not refund the customers due to our TOS (They would pay a 20% cancelation fee im done being nice to customers and workers) and then it would be unfair for them, not only that but ITMAN just a week ago introduced a new TOS to the server stating that 40% of the money IF SUPER LATE would be returned to the customer, and like I said even minus the 2 days of work not being done the last 2 days they're still ALL SUPER LATE. So lets say your total is right, and minus 60% of it, I'm pretty much paid up at this point.
and that I would not send him the payments for uncompleted accounts because I do not trust him due to the reasons above.
6) The day I went "AWOL" and gave him the server because he said he's unhappy working with me. Everything was fine https://i.imgur.com/zo1Oaob.png https://i.imgur.com/HxqtqEh.png
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7) Me assuring him and telling him to only communicate with me for payments https://i.imgur.com/OjiXetX.png
8) I never blocked any customers, I deleted mutual servers i.e. leaving the service discord you guys are just morons who want to slander my name.
9) Us arguing about me paying for partial completion https://i.imgur.com/Y9PL4IC.png https://i.imgur.com/r4cUoz8.png
10) Then it gets to our current messages. There's hella messages that further supports my claims in the discord if they didn't delete it. The only reason this happened is because you're in his ear
worrying him trying to get all the payments so I'm completely cut out of all the deals I made when I was in the discord and don't get any comission, but don't worry out of respect I sent them to you.
11) I Realize it's there job and if I wanted to scam them I would've scammed them before I left the server you moron. They got families to feed and I respect them for that, but I have no respect for you anymore.

Good luck with your service you childish rat






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if you would've never put ideas in his head and slandered my name, everyone woulda got paid, everything woulda been fine. you're the fucking issue and you can fix your mess and pay them what you owe since you wanted to attempt to scam, slander, and cut me out of MY OWN DEALS.

 

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if i scammed why are workers still messaging me asking to work with me? fuck outta here goofy ass clown

 

1) I addressed him lying to about working in my first post. I never told him to do so or do I support it. I told him it was not an okay thing to do. I already said this several times. Talking about it any further is just beating a dead horse.
2) From the screenshots he sent me AND messages in the discord server you left, he asked the customers to contact you to get their money back when wasn't getting an answer from you.
3) What I offered him is literally non of your business. I told him botting accounts can last a few days or months. (mind you this is before the recent ban wave in powbot). This was an idea I had that I suggested. I don't understand how this is relevant to this case whatsoever. It was MY idea that I approached him with, if he wanted to try it with others that is his business.
4) I wouldn't say I had any right. I never asked for any cut or any commission from orders placed on your server. When you LEFT the server with no heads up and gave it to Itman, he asked me to help him and I told him I would not get in the server until he EXPLICITLY asked you first. Which you said yes to. Again, this is something I already addressed.
Regardless, I told the existing customers (YOUR CUSTOMERS) that their existing orders will carry over and I'll make sure they're completed. This was YOUR job to do but you left the server and gave itman ownership. I simply helped him and wanted to make sure everyone was satisfied. No customer complained and in fact were happy that someone was actually giving a shit.
5) Regarding the 40% late fee or whatever, I did not know about this until recently. When Itman told me about this I told him this is an agreement that he entered with you. So if he agreed to it then there is nothing to do about it. So if you are deducting a "late" fee I guess it is within your right to do so.
6) imgur.com is a screenshot YOU provided. He asked you to return the customers their money or pay him. He told you he's afraid that you wont pay the workers and your response was "XD. That sucks, you got what you wanted" Those aren't responses of someone who seemed like he was going to pay up. So in your own words "RED FLAG RED FLAG RED FLAG."
7) I know about this and I'm pretty sure I told him to wait and see what happens.
8) Then it might've been a misunderstanding. But this is what was said in your own server : imgur.com This is your customer.
9) I know about this
10) No messages were deleted. You're more than welcome to take your discord back. You gave ownership up to Itman.
I'm not trying to cut you out of ANY commission, you're free to take whatever you were promised. But the workers should also get what they were promised. As should the clients.

imgur.com - I made the announcement in your server after itman gave me co-ownership. Similar to what I already said in my first post.

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1 - I assured people that their orders will continue even IF you don't pay. So I have been giving you the shadow of a doubt.
2 - I said again, workers are UNSURE if they will get paid. Not "will NOT get paid". I also said that the server is likely dead because your exact words to itman were "the server will die without me".
3 - I said that there are no scammers in this problem. But whether the previous owner (You) will pay the workers is to be determined. Which is a correct statement since you rarely respond and when you do your responses are vague and threatening. "XD, you got what you deserved"
4 - imgur.com - Explaining the situation to the members of your server when I was told that you stopped responding. I encouraged the customers to contact you to either ask for a refund or pass the payment over to itman.


I have repeatedly defended you and refrained from calling you a scammer. But when you rarely respond to people and when half your messages are coming off as threatening with "XD" "that sucks" "you got what you wanted" "enjoy" then it gave the vibe that you weren't going to pay.
When you said you were going to last night, I immediately posted an update in the thread and messaged Yoshiki on discord and told him about it. So I'm sick and tired of you accusing me of slander. I didn't slander you.
I also never threatened, extort or blackmailed you. Our last messages to each other were on the 29th of April when me and Itman had that falling out. I never contacted you after that.

You repeatedly called me a snake, shrug, rat and so on. I don't recall resorting to personal insults and if I did, I apologize.
As for for putting ideas in his head, you seem to say that quite often just because I suggested a split with botting with him which somehow, someway you are so angered by. I am not interested in your money. You're free to take the agreed upon commission with the workers from orders you took. I have no interest in that. I wish you well even though you want to constantly insult me.
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@Yoshiki I want to know what to do with the accounts the workers temporarily claimed.
It was a decision done at my instructions and I take full responsibility for it. I apologize if it was a bad thing to do. The accounts can easily be transferred back to @CodyBanks email if he wants them as long as he pays for the work that was done on the accounts. If he wants to deduct a late fee then all I ask is for him to show proof that they are late and then deduct it if it is true.

if he doesn't want to pay for the work that he ordered, then these accounts will go to the assigned workers as reimbursement. I believe that is the best way to salvage this. Other than that I can confirm that $529 has been sent to Itman and he will be sending it out to the workers today.

 

There is nothing I can find regarding accounts needing to explicitly stay unregistered. This was only said after we decided to register the accounts to protect ourselves. The only thing I found agreed upon in chat is that Tryhard will pay Itman after the accounts are completed. And Itman and @CodyBanks agreeing to a late fee if the worker is late on delivering their job.

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Itman is the one who suggested this "late fee" that Tryhard mentioned in his 5th point above. Itman was the one to suggest 40%. Tryhard thought it was steep and it seems like they left it at 25% and not 40%.

 

Since when should I have to state to a worker that they shouldn’t register an email onto a customers account? Regardless if I own the discord and am the boss, I was still a customer.

And yes you are definitely slandering my name. This debt had no involvement of you. The only debt that was owed was the accounts I requested the services to stop. I gave you guys every single payment for the fucking orders on the server even though I didn't have to because they're not completed, and again no customers asked me specifically for a refund or tried to add me and ask. The only person who asked is Shoko, and after they see all this I hope they understand that you're a sketchy individual and they no longer do business with you. And regardless of the fact that I didn't reply for a few days due to being busy, if they would've continued to service the accounts it would've clearly taking another 10+ days, so why the fuck are they freaking out for the payment so bad when they wouldn't of gotten it for another 10 days anyways?


As for my reply about "You got what you deserved"
please slander my name some more and twist my words around dude. And my other replys like "Enjoy" meant giving him access to admin on the discord and leaving. As for the "XD" I replied to his deleted message saying that it would never happen for like the 20th time when he was demanding EVERY PAYMENT FOR THINGS NOT FINISHED. Of course I'm gonna laugh at him after the 10th time of asking it and me telling him the same thing every time. The deal was to finish then get paid, so literally this dispute is super unnecessary, nothing's completed on the customers end, yet I still gave you guys all the funds? Why? Because I do not want to talk to either of you anymore this is getting ridiculous.

I really wish ITMAN wouldn't deleted his message from me because when I sent the $500 he told me "Okay, don't pay for the ones changed, just pay for what you will" or something very similar which would've closed this right here and now.


And as for you being the problem? You are the problem. My accounts stopped getting serviced for weeks so they could "Work" with you too, yet not you or ITMan wanted to mention that we all had the same workers until ITMAN went AWOL and deleted your server bro lol. Then you got back in his ear and got him to try todo the same shit to me because you thought I told him todo it. You're both a perfect match for each other to work together.


And as for the gold on the accounts and the membership. No you guys do owe me for this if you want this dispute to continue. You claim the accounts can be given back to me, what about the ones I paid for without discounting for the missing items they cleaned?
This is an SoTe account from a worker, on day 30 of service, minus the 4 days of them not working. With me providing the worker over 40M of GP to service this account (he had like 6 of these accounts and they're all cleaned with the same progress)

This is one of the accounts I paid for the work for. Why did they clean it? Where is my 40M x 6 for these accounts? Should I continue going through all the banks and accounts? As you said I had 15-20 accounts. I do not want the accounts back, they registered an email on them, possibly changed the password 20 times, they were made with a VPN which I purchased and provided to everyone on the server, so now they have more recovery info than I have and I'm not willing to risk it after they already scammed me at your say. Your property, you can pay for it, or help them sell it.

In damages in total worth of time wasted for membership always came out of the workers payment if they're late. This is 30 days of progress, which is unacceptable, my membership was wasted on 6 accounts, my gold was stolen there is no buyables done.

This is another worker who did 15-20 days worth of SoTe servicing

explain?



Wanna know why you're slandering my name?

I spent $100+ on discord bots, $70+ on VPNs that I shared with all the workers, $30+ on art work, gave away 30M, gave away a zulrah account, ticket patron etc. Over $200-300 on this project / server just to be stabbed in the back which is cool it's petty money. But wanna know my profit margins / my commission ?
Each job I profited maybe $5-10. There was 2 jobs where me and ITMan would've had a decent commission of over $20 each. The accounts I was servicing to sell? After the GP and membership cost, I again was profiting maybe 10-15M each account, and promised ITMAN $2 per account sold as part of commission for the accounts I was getting serviced. I literally spent all this time and money to help them get a better pay, and get jobs. They begged for jobs so I came up with the idea to sell accounts to give them jobs. Guess what? They cried and asked for money before the job was completed because they had no food, what did I do? I gave them an advanced. What happened? ITMAN got mad every employee was asking for advanced, and shut that shit down. 1-2 days go by and he's asking me for an advanced on an account and flips out "You give everyone an advanced but your admin blah blah blah im not happy working with you. find a new admin" cool whatever he said we're done with advanced but asking for advances. Go on a few days, kids asking me over and over for days straight for all the payments of things not completed. What's going to happen when I do that? He's going to leave my server completely and go work with you, which is fine but I'm not being cut out and scammed which you two have been trying todo this entire time.

I fed these families, and I hope you have enough money to-do the same but you tried to steal my discord bot instead of buying it so assuming you're broke.


Hope you can manage dude, good luck.

@Yoshiki
I'm not paying for the accounts they stole, some of the accounts I even paid for are cleaned and have minimal work on them with the late penalizing and I didn't penalize anyone for cleaning accounts either if I still had access, I paid them very fairly even through all this bullshit.

I'm not going to be active in the marketplace or on Sythe anymore this is my actual last reply.

If you want some real evidence have them invite you to both my worker and service discord and give you admin permissions, thousands of messages between me and itman if they're not deleted / edited like our personal messages.

 

Adios.