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Scammer's profile link: DDRSR
Amount scammed: Nothing scammed, seeking compensation for account damages.
Discord ID + Unique Discord ID: DD2I4#4820 + 159177656993054720
Proof that it's their Discord: Screen capture - 750821d5cb6803ea7293907b18447828 - Gyazo
Explanation of the trade: On March.16 2022 i joined RSR looking for some COX and TOB boosts on my account. I placed an original order of 14 cox boosts and they assigned a worker named better to the order, he completed the order on March.17 2022 and i was extremely impressed with his speed and dedication. March.19 i placed another order for cox and a new worker flugame12s was assigned to the order, again he knocked out 7 cox boosts that day. I placed an order for 24 TOB boosts the same day for him to start working on.
During the TOB boosts i was reading back on the ticket and noticed a screenshot that looked odd. On the 20th i dm'd DD right away with the screenshot because i was certain it was an illegal third party client being masked or edited as a RuneLite client.
Conversation of that is here - imgur.com
As you can see he was able to find out that his worker had RuneLite, OpenOSRS and SpoonLite on his pc and was using a reflection plugin to alter the title of the client, if he never sent a full screenshot with the right hand side i would never of known otherwise. Once DD looked into i was through the understanding flu was using OpenOSRS, because of how well things where going i let this slide and told DD flu could continue to use OpenOSRS but it wasn't until later when i re-read the chat that his worker never had the reflection plugin on OpenOSRS it was on SpoonLite which i got confirmation from a developer later that it's built into the client it's self, had i of actually known he was using some backdoor client based off of OpenOSRS i would have not agreed to that and asked he switch to RuneLite or OpenOSRS, my reason for being okay with OpenOSRS is simply because i am very familiar with the client.
While i was doing my research on SpoonLite i found the first worker better in the server with a rank so i went back and looked at some screenshots he sent me and it followed the exact same pattern, he just made the mistake of sending me bulk screenshots from a folder where you can see the entire client, but like i said this was after everything.
Moving onto the second issue, after letting this slide ( silly me ) i continued on using flu and woke up the morning of the 21st to my account being muted for 2-days for language. I instantly brought it up to their attention and it was dealt with relatively quickly and the end result was flu being kicked from the server.
I had an opportunity to speak to flu and he admitted to me he called another player a retard and knew it would result in the account being muted for saying it.
He claims he was very tired and had his own account beside mine and thought he was typing on his but the evidence that Jagex supplied shows him saying " this is not my account " which contradicts his word.
Conversation with Flu here - imgur.com
Convo clearly shows he knew what would happen for saying what he said and admits to it.
So after all of this transpired over the course of a few days i spent a few hours looking into SpoonLite, from what i can gather it's built by a small group of developers primarily based around PVM quality of life content. You need to be invited to use the client and the main developer has a warning saying they could affect your account.
How they scammed: So this is not a scam report. I reached out to a mod before i wrote this report as well to see if there is merit to it and i feel like their resolution isn't fair and they chose to bash me instead of work with me.
I asked for a new worker and they thought it was best that i go elsewhere so when we worked out a refund i was offered my wallet + the balance for the incomplete jobs ( which is a given, their worker destroyed the job ) i then asked DD if he would compensate for the blackmarks on the account due to the workers complete disregard and both workers using illegal clients without speaking to me about it first and choosing to use a plugin that masks and hides the actual client they're using.
I did agree to their TOS and like i thought they would, Moose threw it at me as quick as he could.
I feel like with the jobs being completed with illegal clients and causing massive risk to my account as well as actually getting my account infracted and possibly flagged by telling other players it isn't his account and deliberately breaking the rules i am owed some sort of compensation for this.
I asked DD and he offered 150m and then redacted it faster than he offered it and as of now, we currently stand at my 500m wallet + 76.8m for remaining boosts + 12.5m split from a tob.
I have other screenshots as well i would like to provide to the mod who takes this showing the evidence from Jagex, job completion screenshots etc etc
Cause it will be a pain to reply when DD or Moose responds, i know they're going to come at me with 1. their TOS and me saying 2. " tell flu i am okay he uses OPOSRS
1. Yes i agreed to their servers tos and the " if the unfortunate happens " but i don't feel their worker deliberately going out of his way to say something knowing the results and then broadcast to players " its not my account " resulting in an infraction on the account.
2. In the moment i was through the understanding he was using OpenOSRS which was why i gave specific instruction not to be using any macros with the client....i'm familiar with OpenOSRS so i felt comfortable with it.
Had i known he was using SpoonLite i would not have agreed to him using it at all...DD also didn't provide any actual evidence either that he " blitzed " his workers pc so it's purely all off his word.
It turned into as big of a deal as it is now once i educated my self on the clients and realized that both of his workers were using an illegal client
Other relevant trade screenshots:
SpoonLite Warning - imgur.com
Example of what the Reflection Plugin does - OpenOSRS 2022-03-22 03-14-00
Refund Agreement - imgur.com
Account Status with Denied Appeal - imgur.com
SpoonLite Example - imgur.com
Refusal to Provide Screenshots - imgur.com
Amount scammed: Nothing scammed, seeking compensation for account damages.
Discord ID + Unique Discord ID: DD2I4#4820 + 159177656993054720
Proof that it's their Discord: Screen capture - 750821d5cb6803ea7293907b18447828 - Gyazo
Explanation of the trade: On March.16 2022 i joined RSR looking for some COX and TOB boosts on my account. I placed an original order of 14 cox boosts and they assigned a worker named better to the order, he completed the order on March.17 2022 and i was extremely impressed with his speed and dedication. March.19 i placed another order for cox and a new worker flugame12s was assigned to the order, again he knocked out 7 cox boosts that day. I placed an order for 24 TOB boosts the same day for him to start working on.
During the TOB boosts i was reading back on the ticket and noticed a screenshot that looked odd. On the 20th i dm'd DD right away with the screenshot because i was certain it was an illegal third party client being masked or edited as a RuneLite client.
Conversation of that is here - imgur.com
As you can see he was able to find out that his worker had RuneLite, OpenOSRS and SpoonLite on his pc and was using a reflection plugin to alter the title of the client, if he never sent a full screenshot with the right hand side i would never of known otherwise. Once DD looked into i was through the understanding flu was using OpenOSRS, because of how well things where going i let this slide and told DD flu could continue to use OpenOSRS but it wasn't until later when i re-read the chat that his worker never had the reflection plugin on OpenOSRS it was on SpoonLite which i got confirmation from a developer later that it's built into the client it's self, had i of actually known he was using some backdoor client based off of OpenOSRS i would have not agreed to that and asked he switch to RuneLite or OpenOSRS, my reason for being okay with OpenOSRS is simply because i am very familiar with the client.
While i was doing my research on SpoonLite i found the first worker better in the server with a rank so i went back and looked at some screenshots he sent me and it followed the exact same pattern, he just made the mistake of sending me bulk screenshots from a folder where you can see the entire client, but like i said this was after everything.
Moving onto the second issue, after letting this slide ( silly me ) i continued on using flu and woke up the morning of the 21st to my account being muted for 2-days for language. I instantly brought it up to their attention and it was dealt with relatively quickly and the end result was flu being kicked from the server.
I had an opportunity to speak to flu and he admitted to me he called another player a retard and knew it would result in the account being muted for saying it.
He claims he was very tired and had his own account beside mine and thought he was typing on his but the evidence that Jagex supplied shows him saying " this is not my account " which contradicts his word.
Conversation with Flu here - imgur.com
Convo clearly shows he knew what would happen for saying what he said and admits to it.
So after all of this transpired over the course of a few days i spent a few hours looking into SpoonLite, from what i can gather it's built by a small group of developers primarily based around PVM quality of life content. You need to be invited to use the client and the main developer has a warning saying they could affect your account.
How they scammed: So this is not a scam report. I reached out to a mod before i wrote this report as well to see if there is merit to it and i feel like their resolution isn't fair and they chose to bash me instead of work with me.
I asked for a new worker and they thought it was best that i go elsewhere so when we worked out a refund i was offered my wallet + the balance for the incomplete jobs ( which is a given, their worker destroyed the job ) i then asked DD if he would compensate for the blackmarks on the account due to the workers complete disregard and both workers using illegal clients without speaking to me about it first and choosing to use a plugin that masks and hides the actual client they're using.
I did agree to their TOS and like i thought they would, Moose threw it at me as quick as he could.
I feel like with the jobs being completed with illegal clients and causing massive risk to my account as well as actually getting my account infracted and possibly flagged by telling other players it isn't his account and deliberately breaking the rules i am owed some sort of compensation for this.
I asked DD and he offered 150m and then redacted it faster than he offered it and as of now, we currently stand at my 500m wallet + 76.8m for remaining boosts + 12.5m split from a tob.
I have other screenshots as well i would like to provide to the mod who takes this showing the evidence from Jagex, job completion screenshots etc etc
Cause it will be a pain to reply when DD or Moose responds, i know they're going to come at me with 1. their TOS and me saying 2. " tell flu i am okay he uses OPOSRS
1. Yes i agreed to their servers tos and the " if the unfortunate happens " but i don't feel their worker deliberately going out of his way to say something knowing the results and then broadcast to players " its not my account " resulting in an infraction on the account.
2. In the moment i was through the understanding he was using OpenOSRS which was why i gave specific instruction not to be using any macros with the client....i'm familiar with OpenOSRS so i felt comfortable with it.
Had i known he was using SpoonLite i would not have agreed to him using it at all...DD also didn't provide any actual evidence either that he " blitzed " his workers pc so it's purely all off his word.
It turned into as big of a deal as it is now once i educated my self on the clients and realized that both of his workers were using an illegal client
Other relevant trade screenshots:
SpoonLite Warning - imgur.com
Example of what the Reflection Plugin does - OpenOSRS 2022-03-22 03-14-00
Refund Agreement - imgur.com
Account Status with Denied Appeal - imgur.com
SpoonLite Example - imgur.com
Refusal to Provide Screenshots - imgur.com
