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@Crystaline could you add me on Skype so we can talk more about this report please?

 

[Crystaline]

@Crystaline could you add me on Skype so we can talk more about this report please?

I dont have skype but i will add you on discord.

 

[video]

I'd just like to ask @video about something: you say that MMs should not be middlemanning account <-> paypal trades if the MM does not hold the paypal. I'm sure you know very well that the common practice is that the MM holds the account while the buyer sends the paypal directly seller. This is the practice that all OMMs I know use, as well as popular regular MMs. Holding the paypal usually leads to, as you alluded to, the buyer charging back and leaving you, the MM, out of the money when you're not involved directly in the trade. I'd like to know why you say that, as it has implications beyond this report and goes against what the longstanding common approach of OMMs do.

I wouldn't ask a middleman to hold paypal and put themselves at risk but in an account middleman trade, the middleman can never truly "hold the account" since it can be recovered at any time. At least with something like gold or bitcoin the payment itself can be held by the middleman until the account transfer is complete. I just have visions of an account seller taking their account back right after paypal has been sent directly to him and the buyer being under a false sense of safety since a middleman was "holding the account".

As for this actual report, I apologize for the outcome of all this. It seems like one of the parties involved gave me false/incomplete information. Hopefully the account creator can recover their account

 

[Crystaline]

I wouldn't ask a middleman to hold paypal and put themselves at risk but in an account middleman trade, the middleman can never truly "hold the account" since it can be recovered at any time. At least with something like gold or bitcoin the payment itself can be held by the middleman until the account transfer is complete. I just have visions of an account seller taking their account back right after paypal has been sent directly to him and the buyer being under a false sense of safety since a middleman was "holding the account".

As for this actual report, I apologize for the outcome of all this. It seems like one of the parties involved gave me false/incomplete information. Hopefully the account creator can recover their account

I have tried 2 times, both have failed, even tho i have the exact date of the account creation, i must have made it on a proxy/vpn

 

Myself and @video believe that @QBDyce will need to refund the amount of the account (please send me the screenshots of the denied recoveries also please @Crystaline)

Please work together to come to a reasonable amount for said account.

 

[Pahy]

The guy in the screenshots, Is the discord Adrian#4854? If so height be trying to scam me on discord too lol

 

The guy in the screenshots, Is the discord Adrian#4854? If so height be trying to scam me on discord too lol

yes. do not trade with him.

OT: @Crystaline and I have decided that $225 is a fair price for the account. I will be able to refund after my classes as long as I get the go-ahead from the mods that the denied appeals were sent in and legit.

 

[Crystaline]

yes. do not trade with him.

OT: @Crystaline and I have decided that $225 is a fair price for the account. I will be able to refund after my classes as long as I get the go-ahead from the mods that the denied appeals were sent in and legit.

You have the 2 other appeal attempts, i sent the one in to chloe from 2 days ago.

 

[K arm a]

Remove if not helpful

I by mistake tryed to withdraw money from my paypal account TO my bank account the other day.
I misclicked an by mistake i took funds out of my BANK to my paypal account. "Me thinking wow this is going to take forever to get my money as it takes 1-5 business days. So i thought i could just call my bank and tell them to cancel it no big deal..
Nope once that happens there is no way for the person to cancel that transaction from bank-Paypal withdraw.


"Just stated becuz he said that he can just cancel it and take my account"

 

[Crystaline]

Remove if not helpful

I by mistake tryed to withdraw money from my paypal account TO my bank account the other day.
I misclicked an by mistake i took funds out of my BANK to my paypal account. "Me thinking wow this is going to take forever to get my money as it takes 1-5 business days. So i thought i could just call my bank and tell them to cancel it no big deal..
Nope once that happens there is no way for the person to cancel that transaction from bank-Paypal withdraw.


"Just stated becuz he said that he can just cancel it and take my account"

Im wrong there then, but its irrelevant anyway since the account was given without me receiving payment after i said multiple times not to


@QBDyce Please respond on discord, you were bumping your topic just 20mins ago but im waiting for a few hours on a reply now.

 

[Crystaline]

Looks like he is trying to stall, has not sent me a message since 4 hours, and was online on forums 1 hour ago..
@QBDyce

 

stop lying and making things seem worse than they actually are because I waited 4 hours for you to message me back and I messaged you back ~1 hour later. I was asleep. I’m not available 24/7 and I’m not available on your command always.

 

Gyazo - 6f0dd796b655fc853a0c08676f53b750.png you waited 36 minutes for a response before posting this, give me a break with the false accusations.

 

[Crystaline]

I mean by me receiving a message at 7m saying you will quickly conform it with the mod, i would expect to get another one/ if did not work let that know. but kk

 

[Crystaline]

@Champ Chloe has not been responding for past 24 hrs, can i show you the proof of the failed recoveries instead so @QBDyce is willing to refund, thanks

 

@Champ Chloe has not been responding for past 24 hrs, can i show you the proof of the failed recoveries instead so @QBDyce is willing to refund, thanks

I understand now why QBdyce didn't want to repsond to you, you're impatient, mods have lives.
I already messaged QBdyce about giving you the money.

 

[Crystaline]

I understand now why QBdyce didn't want to repsond to you, you're impatient, mods have lives.
I already messaged QBdyce about giving you the money.

I get that, but my last message was 30 hours ago to you, if you cannot just leave a reply within 30 hours,, and ofcourse im impatient i lost my account anyway thanks for letting him know

 

[Crystaline]

I received the payment, you can close and remove his Dnt.

 

paid & resolved.

 

Thanks for everyone's cooperation.