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Why has the music industry/the taste for music changed so drastically?

Discussion in 'Music' started by FloydZeppelin, Nov 3, 2012.

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    Why has the music industry/the taste for music changed so drastically?

    I was tempted to throw this in SFA.

    I'm writing a speech over the topic and I've got most of it prepared. Personally I've had a strong attachment to music, so I've always noticed how much it's changed over the years - But for now, I'm not going to type out a long speech.

    I'm merely looking for some other opinion's on the subject. No wrong answers, really. Some could even argue it has taken a turn for the better.

    Other points:

    How has technology affected it?
    How has Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, etc. affected it?
    Lack of music on other means of media (TV)
    What are some positive/negative affects of popular music on society today?

    Get in detail, compare/contrast generations, use sources, I'm really looking for diverse opinions here, don't be scared to post - even if you got beiber fever.
     
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    Why has the music industry/the taste for music changed so drastically?

    As long as it has a good beat to it and promotes popular icons (guys/girls looking sexy, partying, money, etc.) it will most likely become popular.

    I like mainstream hip-hop such as Kanye West and Big Sean but that doesn't mean I don't think the music industry has become better - I openly admit I listen to the worst type of music out there; it's whatever.

    I personally don't like when people hear the songs I listen to and give a sarcastic comment such as "WOW THIS SONG HAS SUCH DEEP MEANING TO IT - MONEY AND BITCHESSSS"...uh.. Hip-hop isn't just about that..it's about creative ad libs and flow.
     
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    Why has the music industry/the taste for music changed so drastically?

    tell me a summary of your thoughts.

    im writing up mine right now, this is an interesting topic.
     
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    Why has the music industry/the taste for music changed so drastically?

    Personally, why do you listen to that type of music?

    For me, I can choose a song that I like and sort of relate to it, whether it be emotionally, through experience, etc., what impact does the music that you listen to take/have on you?

    I'm not blasting anyone, this is actually exactly what I want - A second opinion from a completely opposite source. Thanks for the post.

    I might if I get time later. I've literally been typing/writing all week and I have a pretty big and expanded view on the entire subject - From MTV to facebook all the way to the way this generation has been brought up, raised, and everything that goes on around us.
     
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    Why has the music industry/the taste for music changed so drastically?

    I enjoy all types of music. I love music from opposite ends of the genre that sparks that emotional feel in me. I listen to that type of music because I personally love bass (I have two 12" subs in the trunk of my car).

    You may question why I don't like to dance-type music, but rap music actually has an extreme diversity of bass beats instead of the constant "boom, boom, boom, etc." that dance music delivers. So, why not instrumentals of those songs? Not sure - I do enjoy the sound of certain rappers' voices, such as Wiz Khalifa. So, in the end, I guess it's because it just sounds good.
     
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    Why has the music industry/the taste for music changed so drastically?

    Because it's force fed down our generations throats via mainstream media, and peer pressure exists.
     
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    Why has the music industry/the taste for music changed so drastically?

    mine is going to be a huge post btw.

    im probably going to go into separate genres and recent trends and stuff

    idk why but i really want to make this good
     
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    Why has the music industry/the taste for music changed so drastically?

    Not entirely true. I never listen to the radio, nor MTV, etc.

    And I actually try and turn my music down when I see people as I know this type of music is actually kinda shitty.

    IMO, the mainstream rap I listen to doesn't sound the same.

    Pop music from the radio always sounds the same though..
     
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    Why has the music industry/the taste for music changed so drastically?

    If it's shitty, why listen to it?
    How do you find your music?
     
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    Why has the music industry/the taste for music changed so drastically?

    I listen to rap songs. If I like them, I use Pandora and find similar artists - or if there are other artists on the beat that I'm listening to and I happen to like that song, I'll search the featured artist on that beat.

    And it's shitty because the lyrics suck for the most part - I can admit to that. But like I said, it sounds good.
     
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    Why has the music industry/the taste for music changed so drastically?

    But doesn't that sort of make you feel less unique? Music has always been a way of identity for people, if everyone starts listening to stuff they don't even like, then how could we ever phase out the stuff we don't like? If we all can agree that it's a problem, then why do we choose to support it by listening to it?
     
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    Why has the music industry/the taste for music changed so drastically?

    But I do like it. I sing along to the lyrics about 'drugs, sex and money' because they're generally fun songs to dance/listen to.

    Look at this forum. Everyone seems to hate this kind of music - so no, I actually feel more unique.
     
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    Why has the music industry/the taste for music changed so drastically?

    why is music you don't like a problem?
     
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    Why has the music industry/the taste for music changed so drastically?

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    Why has the music industry/the taste for music changed so drastically?

    "4 Members"
    Only 3 are listed.

    Wat.
     
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    Why has the music industry/the taste for music changed so drastically?

    OK ill go.

    Pop music is objectively the best music.

    prove me wrong
     
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    Why has the music industry/the taste for music changed so drastically?

    Let me expand a little bit. I have a cousin who's 8 and she listens to all that garbage (Probably not all the stuff you listen to) but she listens to all the Beiber, gaga, direction, some of the rap artists, and in particularly that utterly horrible song "Sexy and I know it", but think about the negative affects this music has on her.

    First off, it gives her a reason to Google what the song really means (Or what other people interpret it... Though you don't have to be a genius to know that a lot, if not most, of these songs are jam packed with connotations and hidden meanings, because as you said partying, drugs, and women are the icons).

    Secondly, it gives her a sense of confidence that she doesn't deserve. Going around singing "I'm sexy and I know it", or buying into the fads that other people sing/rap about will play a role on an 8-year-old's mind, no doubt. See what was wrong about us who are grown up now is we were praised as kids, and given trophies, when in reality - we didn't do anything to deserve it. Increasing someone's confidence level, which is sure to be crushed at some point in time, doesn't seem like it would play out too good. We're all craving acceptance, whether we're making duck faces for our facebook audience, or wearing plastic sunglasses that we got from the AMC, or creating an image to fit into the type of music that's pumped into our heads.

    If it's a negative thing, why do we think it's okay to support it? Even if we think "It just sounds good".

    On another note, I was about to say earlier - Your opinion isn't exactly like most of society, I knew you had a brain before you posted because I've always felt like Sythe, and other communities definitely can increase one's perspective of everything outside of reality, whether it be from engaging into the conversation or watching as a third-party.
     
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    Why has the music industry/the taste for music changed so drastically?

    The beatles wrote songs about taking drugs, sex and women.

    how is it any different
     
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    Why has the music industry/the taste for music changed so drastically?

    Mass media wasn't as big when the Beatles were around, I'm sure it was a lot easier to monitor what your kids were listening to back then (I'd assume).

    Not to mention the Beatles, as well as any other band that exploded back then took it's toll on society with partying, drugs, and sex until it phased out into electronic avenue.

    Why not learn from it instead of support it?
     
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    Why has the music industry/the taste for music changed so drastically?

    Im going to explain why pop music is objectively the best:

    Objective quality is based on how well something fills its purpose. The purpose of music is to be listened to.

    Therefore: pop music is objectively of the highest quality because it is listened to the MOST.

    Now, other factors come into play such as social pressure, marketing, image and music videos, but in this scenario it is irrelevant.

    Lets say you give someone who has never listened to music before (and knows nothing about music at all. We are assuming there is no bias whatsoever) two songs to listen to:

    A drone song by neutral milk hotel. 10 or so minutes long of droning noise.


    Secondly: A pop song.


    Which one do you think he would like better? The pop song right? Because its easy to listen to, has a beat, rhythm and distinctive catchy melody. It's accessible.

    Maybe some people would like the drone better, but in reality most people will prefer the pop song.

    And if more people like it without any other bias, just for the music it means that the song is objectively of better quality because it fills its purpose to be listened to.

    Accessibility=Objective Quality.

    Im not saying i like pop music the best, because taste is subjective.

    An argument to this could be that the other purpose of music is to express your feelings but only the person who made the song can know if they achieved this so the point is moot.

    Am I wrong?
     
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