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Post: [BigBoiBets] Lying in High Pardon, Foul Play
Forum: Feedback
Assigned Moderators: Cas_M

Posted by: Xier0
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I was going to post a response to the pardon, but there's just so much more that needs to be covered, I'm going to lay it all out in the open here and hear the community opinion about this. In case you don’t know, Dave said that BigBoiBets could pardon without repaying any of his numerous victims first.

I decided to drop the bogus politeness from this and rewrite it to leave honest feedback.

The fact that certain pardons are even remotely considered is a joke.

People's previous status on Sythe/RS/etc. or financial position should not have any effect on their pardon's outcome. They should be treated no better than the lying, scamming, blackhatting blemishes on humanity that they are. This applies to past pardons, like JohnG's - so it's not a direct personal attack at anyone - but it's obviously relevant again in the case of iZinc/BigBoiBets.

It boggles my mind that he's actually got supports on his pardon. I personally question the integrity of every single moderator who is willing to put their name down on behalf of someone so slimy and underhanded in the face of his blatant abuse of the rules of Sythe.org. If you're going to throw the law of the land you're supposed to be upholding out the window, at least try to pretend you're not doing so. Have some discretion, maybe. I'm disgusted with all of you.


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For those of you who don’t know, BigBoiBets (Also known as iZinc or Killian) committed the most profitable blackhat attacks in recent Sythe history ($100k+ profit/losses on each side) against Jon (Sythe Sportjon22), myself (Xier0) and numerous others, and is currently pardoning. He never admitted to his offences before evidence came out, made no attempt to contact his victims before attempting to pardon, has been caught lying in his pardon on almost every single word, and misled admins in order to try to avoid repaying his victims before being able to attempt a pardon. These offences include ddosing our servers and our site, and contacting the licensers of our poker software (the same one he uses),trying to social engineer the Briggsoft staff into revoking our license and banning us from using it in the future, along with attacking a half dozen of his other competitors. I’ll mention the offences against myself&Jon here, but you can read about his other attacks in the google doc above.

Obviously, these are strong accusations. Unlike Killian, I don’t make accusations without proof to back it up. This thread will extensively cover everything, and you can leave your comments about it here, since the staff is ignoring and deleting posts about it.

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iZinc posted a ban dispute in May for scamming Joopii out of his 30% share of BBB. At this point, iZinc still had not come forward admitting to his numerous blackhat offences that he built his business off of. When evidence finally came forth, he was told that he had to sort out his blackhat offences and would have to post a pardon instead of a dispute by Entrr

Denied. Sort out EVERYTHING before you try returning. Things to include:

1. Blackhat claims
2. Demotions/Refunds ect any other logistics that may arise to avoid a future problem.

Thanks.

Instead of doing what the mod said, iZinc just decided to wait 2 months and try to post another dispute instead of a pardon. Due to negligence by the staff, they UNBANNED HIM WITHOUT EVEN READING HIS APPEAL OR KNOWING WHAT OFFENCE HE WAS BANNED FOR. I contacted the mod who unbanned him about the fact that iZinc had still not even attempted to contact his victims, and about how he has to post a pardon instead of a dispute. After this, BigBoiBets was rebanned, and he posted a pardon immediately after, while he had still not repaid his victims.

http://www.sythe.org/request-pardon/1738192-bigboibets-requesting-pardon-listed.html
The BigBoiBet’s pardon can be read in its entirety, minus the posts of mine that staff deleted here, for reasons unknown. I have not reported any of BigBoiBet’s posts where he wrongfully accuses me of basically everything with absolutely no evidence, but that will all be shown in the “Lies” spoiler below

Killian posted a pardon while still not paying back any of his victims. I posted the amount I saw as repayment on the dispute, and the reasons behind it, but it was DELETED by a staff member for reasons unknown without them responding to it. Another response I made concerning damages can be seen here:
What proof do you need exactly, considering iZinc ADMITTED to it?

Consider this situation: Let's say I DDoSed Sythe.org, causing Richard to have to pay for server upgrades. This also results in down-time, which Richard has to refund advertisers for, and causing long term damage in terms of lost revenue to loss in customer confidence, etc. Do you think that that wouldn't cost the site & community a huge amount of money, or cause unnecessary labor and expenses for Richard & Matthew? Would you allow me to pardon without paying my victims if I profited an incredible amount from attacking Sythe.org and costing Sythe.org a roughly equal amount? I would be told to fuck right off if I even attempted to post a pardon.


iZinc already admitted that he does agree that he owes us compensation. Roary agreed, and FireZ didn't have any objections last week. I assume that the issue here is that it is difficult to decide on an exact amount in damages, because there is no exact way to determine how much money Dragon Dyce lost as a result of iZinc's prolific blackhat and SE attacks, or how much he gained from them. I understand that Sythe staff probably don't want to look at numbers to figure that out, but it doesn't take a genius to realize that that number is easily in the tens of thousands of dollars, by even conservative estimations, considering the volume that both Dragon Dyce and BigBoiBets do in bets. That being said, any amount less than that doesn't really have a reason to be contested by anyone.


There's no way iZinc could ever undo the damage he's done. Instead of trying to argue for tens of thousands of dollars in compensation, I've only told iZinc to pay for our new project as restitution for destroying our last one. This is the easiest compromise that can be made with iZinc, and really the only acceptable one considering the circumstances. I won't budge from my stance, considering how generous I'm already being, and iZinc even had the privilege of getting unbanned, and rebanned&pardoning to see that he had at least 3 staff supports before even repaying his victims.


No one, iZinc or staff, has listed a single reason why the amount I've presented is inappropriate. If anyone would like to respond to that with a good reason why he shouldn't pay AT LEAST as much as the startup cost of our new project since he went through considerable effort to attack our last one for profit, I would really like to hear it. Until then, I am not moving from the amount I listed before because I have no reason to believe that I should based on the evidence. iZinc can contact me via Skype, TS, IRC, etc whenever he wants to make amends and pay the fraction of the amount he profited from our losses. Until he does that, he isn't even eligible for a pardon.


I also posted about it briefly in a discussion in the SF here: http://www.sythe.org/13795846-post14.html

In addition to the fact that iZinc was unbanned before via dispute without the staff even checking to see what he was banned for (blackhat, an undisputable offence that has to be pardoned), there is more evidence that is being contested for reasons that staff doesn’t seem to want to tell the victim of the offence why.

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Earlier, FireZ said that this wasn't valid, but there was never a reason listed as to WHY this particular SE attack against us isn't valid, in addition to the already existing DDoS attacks. If he had contacted vB and tried to revoke Sythe's vB license, would you feel the same way?

This screenshot (which isn’t crucial to the pardon, since he was already banned under other evidence) was discarded as evidence for reasons unknown (mind you, it doesn’t have to do with the Skype profile not being visible; it is well known that iZinc did this). When asked for the reason why this very damning piece of evidence isn’t being considered, I received no response, and iZinc’s pardon was allowed to continue without this extra evidence being considered.

I'm very direct and go straight to the facts bluntly; but nothing I say will ever be a lie. Please leave room for your toleration/consideration
Kind regards,
iZinC

Barely a single word that iZinc has written in response to his pardon has been a lie or wild accusation against me of which he has no proof (which earns you an infraction here on Sythe.org). Let’s list them here shall we?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MalnwUGHJSw_1X_RYaZJOQ-qqj03XMpaQZeGUzR5IpU/edit

Oh, and I'm so glad you noticed the screenshot I had to PM to Xeir0 to indirectly show him that berating us constantly on Sythe isn't profitable for him in the long-term-- to which he complied with and didn't berate us for months after we showed him this, please check his posts.
Click on the google doc and go to the first thread he mentions here: http://www.sythe.org/spam-forum/1692501-so-happened.html
He claims I attacked him on the google doc. You want to know what I posted on this thread that apparently offended iZinc so much that he felt the need to say that I was “constantly berating him” on Sythe?
Sup Francis.

There it is. I’m such a cold-hearted bastard aren’t I? I said hello to a previous co-worker of mine, who worked at BigBoiBets at the time. Clearly berating him right?


Here’s the second thread: http://www.sythe.org/denied-suggestions/1691724-stop-letting-scammers-advertise-sythe.html

Read through it yourself and decide whether or not I was blatantly attacking BigBoibets here.

AFTER THIS IN THE GOOGLE DOC, HE LISTS OTHER SYTHE MEMBERS, WHETHER THEY ARE AFFILIATED WITH US OR NOT IS A ASSOCIATED AS A PERSONAL ATTACK ON HIS BUSINESS RIGHT??? THIS INCLUDES HEADS, LEANBEAN, CONNORP, AND MADTWATTER, WHO AT NO POINT HAVE EVER BEEN AFFILIATED WITH DRAGON DYCE TO MY KNOWLEDGE.

1. Xeir0 and dragondyce initially attacked us in every way possible, they sent people to our website trying to advertise.

There is no proof posted. Guess why. Because this never happened, we've never sent people to their website to advertise. Lie #2..

2. They berated us on Sythe forums.

3. They DDoSed us.

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I have never, at any point, DDoSed anyone, and I do not own any blackhat tools. iZinc has no proof of this and KNOWS I didn't have anything to do with it, but accused me of it anyway to get away with not refunding his victims.

Once again, iZinc KNOWS that I am not doing this, because I told him that I had PM'd staff members on his behalf to get the issue sorted out.

He lied to my face. He's been intentionally stalling my pardon with a lack of evidence and tried blackmailing me saying on TeamSpeak

Counter evidence here:

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I tried at every opportunity to expedite iZinc's pardon (check the timestamps), even though he certainly didn't deserve that sort of effort from me.

- Joopii, Xeir0 and Jiffy all have net common goals.
1. Attempt in any way possible to keep me banned on Sythe
2. Try to scam money in the process by all means possible

Accusing me of scamming with no proof? +1 infraction here as well. I've never scammed anyone, iZinc knows this because he's been trying (unsuccessfully) to find proof of me doing it. More evidence of him trying to accuse me of scamming here:

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He is attempting to make me look bad my using false evidence, claiming that I’m “not showing remorse” based on a screenshot over 10 months ago, the screenshot isn’t something now and relevant after I’ve posted a pardon and after I’m supposed to be showing remorse. No, the screenshot he chose is one from 10 months ago (note he didn’t inform you it was from 10 months ago)

Counter evidence:

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This "U mad bro?" PM was sent to me by Killian around the same time as the DDoS attacks.

I mentioned specifically that the PM was sent around the same time as the DDoS attacks and deliberately included the date on the screenshot, yet iZinc goes on to LIE and say that I deliberately didn't mention that to make it seem like that was a recent PM, and trying to make it seem like he has changed over the last 10 months. His lies, obviously, show that if he has changed, he has only changed for the worse.

3. The party must show legitimate remorse.

Instead of paying back his victims, iZinc resorted to MISLEADING ADMINS to get them to decide that he didn't have to pay any money back to his victims, making a false claim against me that I was involved in blackhat activities against him to nullify the blackhat activities against me. He's spent the entirety of his pardon process trying to attack his victims even further instead of paying them back.

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This "U mad bro?" PM was sent to me by Killian around the same time as the DDoS attacks.

This is the PM that iZinc sent me around the time of the DDoS attacks, gloating.
 
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