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  1. Unread #1 - Mar 9, 2014 at 4:14 PM
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    Can you please explain to me why this free service is not allowed? One that has no risks on both sides.

    I was thinking about doing one to test out the accuracy in acceptances, but any form of unban services seem to be not allowed. What sense does that make? I do not profit off this one bit, so can you please tell me a logical reason for why this is not allowed? I'd like a real one, not a "Because staff said so". I should be thanked for my gratitude, not harmed by it.

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    http://www.sythe.org/market-discussion/1690481-account-unbanning-service-idea.html

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    This does not make any sense to me.

    To further expand on why I feel the original rule was put in place, is because "the only" account unbanning service in the market exploited the variables too much in his favor. The pricing and manipulation of the process was over the top. The service alone is compelling to anyone who would do anything to unban their accounts.

    Don't take that one incident, and make those suffer that would like to take place in such a service. On that note, let me remind you that the service would be FREE.

    The current ruling is fine as it is. Free services of this kind affects no one.
     
  3. Unread #2 - Mar 9, 2014 at 5:45 PM
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    Free or not, you're giving people false hope that you can not possibly guarantee
     
  5. Unread #3 - Mar 9, 2014 at 6:01 PM
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    Not sure if serious or trolling.

    You can't guarantee that your account will be unbanned, everyone knows this. It is stated in the beginning of my market discussion thread. The service is free, so you shouldn't be ungrateful.
     
  7. Unread #4 - Mar 9, 2014 at 10:00 PM
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    If it's free, I don't really care.
     
  9. Unread #5 - Mar 9, 2014 at 10:14 PM
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    I have a problem with someone paying for a product and not being promised results. This case is different though where it's free. I have no problem with you offering it as a free service.

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  11. Unread #6 - Mar 9, 2014 at 10:23 PM
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    How does the service work?

    Going off the original thread that got it banned it seems more of a guide kind of thing than a service. The person providing the service cant do anything but give advice and instructions since the owner is the one that can get the account unbanned
     
  13. Unread #7 - Mar 9, 2014 at 10:27 PM
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    I don't know why you're so unhinged about not being able to offer a free service? I also don't understand why exactly you'd be interested in the accuracy of acceptances? Maybe instead of committing your time to such dubious tasks you can do something more productive. No support on allowing such services. Unnecessary threads doing nothing but giving people unnecessary post count.
     
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    If it's free, sure.
     
  17. Unread #9 - Mar 9, 2014 at 11:10 PM
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    Read my market discussion thread provided in the OP.

    If you read the thread, you would notice that I provided a link. You should read it. Inside that link explains why I am testing out the accuracy of such a service.

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    Why do Sythe users neglect reading?
     
  19. Unread #10 - Mar 9, 2014 at 11:30 PM
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    Calm down, I read everything but the link.
    Since each is unique (though i'm still doubtful) then I don't care.
    If you allow this than similar services that charge should also be allowed.
     
  21. Unread #11 - Mar 9, 2014 at 11:37 PM
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    It was a generalization. It was not directed at you or Heroine. I am more than calm, sparked a few L's a hour ago.

    Why are you doubtful? Why would I request that users tell me the date/time and reason of their ban? Wouldn't that be useless information if I sent users the same appeal form?

    With my current restrictions, I don't see my service being used the way others think it would. I'd be surprised to even get a request that does not fall under those restrictions.
     
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    Sorry
    Well lets say 10 users want your service and they all got banned for botting 24/7. How can it be 10 unique appeals without recycling? The date wouldnt contribute since its just "i was banned on -insert date here-" and "banned because I botted -insert skill and place here-"

    Sorry, I'm just not understanding
     
  25. Unread #13 - Mar 10, 2014 at 12:03 AM
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    I doubt that I'm even going to get 5 approved requests within two months time. There will be restrictions to avoid situations like this.

    The date and how you got banned are very important details. I doubt 10 users would be banned at the same time, botting the same skills.

    If you can give me a reasonable scenario, I could explain better.
     
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    I really don't see the problem with it if it's free.
     
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    The amount of customers you get is not definite.
    I didnt say exact same skills and date which is why I put -insert here- like just fill in the blank of a form or something

    Why are people fine with this just because its free? If they agree with it free then they should agree when people charge. I dont mind this being allowed but its something I would not use
     
  31. Unread #16 - Mar 10, 2014 at 12:32 AM
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    Then why are you complaining? A senseless repression tactic.

    Looking for staff to speak on this. Don't act like zombies, you have your own opinion. I know there are at least 5 users on staff that think logically. There is no counter argument you can make against this. Suppress your pride and do something meaningful for once, thanks.
     
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    Support, as you say, there is no guarantee, therefore no risk of being scammed at all.
     
  35. Unread #18 - Mar 10, 2014 at 12:48 AM
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    Who is complaining?
    I simply expressed why your service couldve been closed (referring to the thread that got the service banned and stating it was like a guide) and my questioning the integrity of the service (asking how it worked and trying to make sense of how its unique like you say)

    Honestly...
     
  37. Unread #19 - Mar 10, 2014 at 12:56 AM
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    I agree with it being allowed if it is free. Simple way to possibly gain vouches, and as stated previously there's no risk of being scammed due to the lack of currency. However the consensus about services is "you get what you pay for," and without accepting a payment of some form a customer is basically taking a shot in the dark; so to speak.

    Then again, isn't that what unbanning services really are, a risk to be taken as there is already a loss to be had? Either way, I stick to my first statement that it should be allowed if the service is free.
     
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    It's time for you to stop posting. Needless to say you can't make a counter argument on why this should not be allowed. If you read the linked thread, it is clear that it isn't a guide. You attacked the process of how I would conduct a service that has yet to be made. If that is your rebuttal to my counter statement, it's time you stop post farming.

    A message to future posters: If you can't make a counter argument against free unban services being allowed, there is no point in posting if you don't support the availability of it.

    I will rephrase this for emphasis. There is no logical reason to not allow a free service such as this. If I explain why again, I may pop a nerve.
     
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