Well, here's my perspective, if anyone's interested.
Grave got hacked for about an hour, maximum two hours. With oldschool gold being the prominent seller, not a lot of EoC gold is exchanged within a day. I find it hard to believe that someone, who also happens to be from the same hacking/scamming website that the hacker was from, comes on to sell 600M and a green partyhat within that short timeframe, especially when we make it very clear we don't buy items countless times. In addition, Grave's buying thread was not bumped at all when this occurred, for three days, from what I see, so I also find it hard to believe that the member happened to stumble upon Grave's website to sell 2B. Now, all of this alone is suspicious, but other people, who happen to show me screenshots of them being 'scammed' by the hacker also had BugAbuse tabs open. I'm not saying this is 100% true, but I have reasons to believe it was set up.
Moving on to the Sythe rules.
As Richard recently showed, Sythe does not endorse the sale or purchase of stolen goods. It's very closely based on the major laws around the world regarding stolen goods as well, so let me give you an analogy. A thief goes to a store and tries to sell the copper he obtained from an AC unit. Turns out the shopkeeper isn't there, but some random person takes it from him and doesn't pay him. The thief now goes to the police station, and asks the shopkeeper to be held accountable. No one in their right mind would do that. If anything, the trade was between two scammers, one which previously scammed, and one which scammed the scammed goods from the other scammer. It's all stolen goods, so the ownership still lays between the original owner, and I was just a proxy which the scammer used to scam the other scammer. Now, I understand there's some concern about the 600M that was obtained legitimately. However, I'm yet to be convinced that it wasn't set up. I'm investigating all the complaints thoroughly and seeing who deserves what. If solid evidence is brought up on who the green partyhat actually belonged to, as well as solid evidence on the 600M being obtained legitimately and the whole thing not being framed, I'll become more adamant about paying it back, even if Sythe staff disagree. But otherwise, the entire situation is a mess and I don't think you guys should be harsh on me, taking into consideration the details.
Aren't you an administrator on BugAbuse?
