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Joopiiii · Oct 10, 2012

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Post: Re: Pardon System Changes
Forum: Feedback
Assigned Moderators: cosrob97, Wulfspade1, Tmoe, They be trippin

Posted by: x339
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Govind said: ↑

The premise behind a pardon request is that the user requesting the pardon is asking to be forgiven for offenses they committed to deserve their ban. Why should we make a system for unbanning users who were rightfully banned more fair to said users? They are the ones who are in the wrong, and the staff is in no way obligated to consider letting them back at all.

Once you accept this, I don't know how you can claim that a pardon request should be treated with the "innocent until proven guilty" credo - if one of the leaders of the forum disagrees with letting a user who should be banned back into the community, they are permitted to veto.
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What are you even saying! You are completely twisting everything I am saying to try and make it look like your logic makes any sense. Please read exactly what I am typing, and consider it exactly as it is stated.

The system is in place to bring back users to the site who were banned, but can still be an asset to the community. Sythe is benefited from pardons just as much as the banned users are. Those users get to come back in to the community, and Sythe gains new active members. Obviously if they were pardoned the staff feels they don't pose a threat, and so far there hasn't been an overwhelming issue with pardoned users scamming, so why are you acting like it is.

I am not saying they should be treated with "innocent until proven guilty", it's pretty damn obvious they are guilty, so I don't know why you are making up words for me. It doesn't take away from the fact that the system would benefit from being as balanced as possible. So please provide me with ONE, just ONE, good reason as to why it shouldn't be balanced. So far all I've heard is admins have perfect judgement, and that they might not even see the veto in over a freaking week.

Also why ignore this:

2. There is a 12 month time limit for when you are allowed to request a pardon, starting with the day of the ban. This allows three pardon requests: one shortly after your ban, one six months later, and one twelve months later.
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Pardon requests that are currently open will not be affected by these changes
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Oh really, then why hasn't this person been auto-denied? http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?p=11546503#post11546503

According to your new rules he is not eligible for a pardon, and the support he has been given by the staff means nothing.
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