The Prayer That Shook The Nation

Heavenly Father, we come before you today to ask Your forgiveness and to seek Your direction and guidance. We know Your Word says, "Woe to those who call evil good,," but that is exactly what we have done. We have lost our spiritual equilibrium and reversed our values.

We confess:

We have ridiculed the absolute truth of Your Word and called it Pluralism.
We have worshipped other gods and called it multiculturalism.
We have endorsed perversion and called it alternative lifestyle.
We have exploited the poor and called it the lottery.
We have rewarded laziness and called it welfare.
We have killed our unborn and called it choice.
We have shot abortionists and called it justifiable.
We have neglected to discipline our children and called it building self-esteem.
We have abused power and called it politics.
We have coveted our neighbor's possessions and called it ambition.
We have polluted the air with profanity and pornography and called it freedom of expression.
We have ridiculed the time-honored values of our forefathers and called it enlightenment.

Search us, Oh God, and know our hearts today; cleanse us from every sin and set us free.

Guide and bless these men and women who have been sent to direct us to the center of your will.

This is the truth of the situation the US is in today :/ I am a muslim and I agree 100% with what is being said. Discuss here your differing viewpoints on the subject of the moral corruption that is being exposed.

 

I am sorry but that seems like every muslims view of america. Yes our country has our own faults, but muslims hate us.
Personally if they hate us they need to GTFO. After all is said and done, where at first I wasnt, I now am extremely racist against muslims (not trying to attack you) but all muslims seem to be religiously charged and hate america.

 

If everyone called your race down at any chance they could get, you'd hate the mass majority as well. Muslim people have a right to live in peace and walk this earth just as free and as happy as any other American or Canadian. Everyone is allowed to their own opinion, if all of their opinions are all hatred and negative then their life will be nothing but a long road ahead of them filled with negative and hate and sorrow. Have love in your heart, and you shall be happy.

 

Then stop being racist. You're only fueling the fire.

Different groups have different beliefs. This is what causes hatred, as these beliefs often clash. All of this "Accept each other and you shall be happy" thing is just wishful thinking. There will never be a community where absolutely everyone gets along.

 

What is this filth that you have posted, OP? Discipline children? Are you that poorley educated that you still think beating children helps them mature or develop better?

Religion, any kind, stops the progress of evolution and the possibility of a modern society, Religion, is medieval.

There may or may not be moral corruption, but the alternative is not religion.

 

Not everyone has to get a long, but they do have to live among each other and who wants to spend everyday with hate and nothing but cruel and negative thoughts and feelings 24/7.

Might be wishful thinking, but there's always going to be people who will stand against racism and violence, just like there will always be the rebels who refuse to let go and be violent and cruel at any given time.

 

I can't believe I missed this part. Are you fucking kidding me? This is exactly why my religion is none belief, fucking messed up in the head priests and weirdos like yourself who end up abusing children sexually and mentally until they're broken. Get a grip of reality and leave children alone.

 

Both sides are equally disgusting, ridiculous. I guess that's humans though, that's us.

 

There will always be corruption, with or without religion.

 

It's nice that you know what you did wrong, but not everyone has an religion (there a lot of atheists on Sythe btw).

 

I love how people such as yourself think, as soon as they hear the word discipline of children, that it automatically means beating your children. If you have prejudiced definitions of a word in your own mind, don't blatantly disagree with what's being said. Discuss it in a friendly manner and let others know of your viewpoint.

And Religion, if the correct one is implemented, enables society to progress. Religion, in fact, dictates moral principles that would not be apparent had it not been there. Science cannot provide moral answers, while religion can. Morals are a key factor of human life on earth, but 'Modern' societies claim to produce their own morals and that they are in the right because it is up to them to dictate which morals they decide to live by. One can see the disastrous effects of this mentality when one examines the morally bankrupt persons in history. Hitler, I'm sure you've heard of him, was one such person.

Before you make claims that in all religions child beating is encouraged, please first, research your point and then maybe you could say, "In most religions today, child beating is encourages." Or whatever seems right to you. All I ask is that you don't go blindly into a discussion and make claims on which you have no backing. Thank you.

Discipline, when applied in the proper way to children, is a very good thing. If a child follows his own whims and desires every step of the way growing up, that child will be attached to his/her habits when the child is grown up also. This leads to disastrous consequences. There are numerous ways in which discipline of children is beneficial and again, so many ignorant people automatically think that the discipline of children means molesting them or beating them. The child needs guidance and if you do not provide that, the child can and will become morally bankrupt. He/she will think "I need to kill if I want to get something; Okay, I'll kill because a life is obstructing my path to my desires." Discipline prevents this and if no discipline is given to a child at an early age, the outcome will be disastrous.

Ugh.. it's not even worth addressing this question as this guy is ignorant beyond belief

 

There's a huge difference between being a proper educator for your child than being a warden. You don't need to discipline your child, you just need to guide your child into the right direction which is sanity and loyalty and all of the good stuff. If you do that all the right way your son or daughter will not be morally bankrupt.

 

Look at what society is coming to. It's so sad. "You don't need to discipline your child." If your child does something wrong, would you not rebuke him and tell him it is wrong? If he does it again, would you not tell him again and again to make him understand the point? This is the reason you see that religious households and specifically in Iran and Iraq, the children are such good role models for others and are outstanding. They greet properly, are very polite and respectful. This is all the product of a good upbringing.

"You don't need to discipline your child." That claim is the most absurd thing I've ever heard in my life to be honest. A child needs to be taught what is right and what is wrong and often children ignore their parents. Forceful teaching will apply in that case. Scolding will work. This is why you see the Western society today. It is just extremely saddening what goes on there. The children think that they can do whatever they want with their parents and they grow up to be drug addicts and alcoholics. I, in my own experience, have heard my friend, when he got annoyed with his Mom on the phone, said to her "FUCK YOU MOM." And then hung up and continued his day like he had done nothing wrong. This is the result of an upbringing void of discipline. Beating doesn't help and neither does simple guidance all the time. To apply guidance, sometimes you need force. The median of these two extremes is scolding when they do something wrong and gently encouraging the child to continue when they are doing something right. This is a good combination in my opinion. All in all, discipline is necessary in the upbringing of a child.

 

Your opinion of raising a child is not what I agree with and I'm not going to change my opinion or become a warden once I have children. Being polite and having manners isn't something every kid has and that's even in families who do discipline their children and teach them to do these things on day to day basis. You can't control a child like it's a robot, they don't come with manuals and remote controls, once kids start to complain that's when parents like you will lose their patience and start abusing their children.

Kids just want to be kids and have fun and enjoy life, let them be. If you want to teach your son something valuable teach him how to be a man, teach him how to treat a lady how to fish, how to ride a bike, teach him everything about life and how it's good and beautiful and make him happy by being there for him when he needs you. Teach your daughter how to be independent, how to defend herself and how to respect her body, tell her that she's beautiful just the way she's and that no matter what that you'll be there for her always and forever. Never drill anything to your children, you want to be their hero not their enemy.

 

That is all correct ^, and I agree with you, but there are certain things in which children do not listen to their parents, even if they respect them and love them. It is in these things that you have to discipline them and help them understand that what they are doing is wrong.

 

Most children that don't listen at all, have disability's or are spoiled. If your child has a disability which makes it hard for him or her to comprehend certain tasks then it's not their fault and any type of form of discipline wouldn't be necessarily the right thing to do. If you spoiled your kids then it's your fault, you made you kids that way now you're going to have to live with the outcome.

Children just don't behave poorly on purpose, they either see this behavior or there's a problem at home which is causing this issue which could be related to the first two points I pointed out in my first paragraph. Also kids just like to be little monsters sometimes because that's what they're, they're little monsters until they're at least ten. The only two types of "discipline" I'd approve of and trust me I hate to even call it that, would be time outs and taking things away from them which are material.

 

I am inclined to agree with you Thanks.

Just to clarify, not all religions encourage beating of children

 

This summed up all we need to know.

 

i find myself agreeing with polarbear in this thread.

saying you do not need to disicipline children is like saying we don't need to punish criminals.

 

If they disagree with american culture, why the fuck do they fly over and live in the US AND the UK, it's like wtf? and so what if they don't like our culture, we don't like the way the chinese live polluting the atmosphere as there the no.1 for pollutions etc, we might not like the way other people live too but we don't go preaching about it and causing trouble.