The Journey Of A Dicer: The Experiment Worth Millions

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The Journey Of A Dicer: The Experiment Worth Millions
  1. Unread #1 - Jun 3, 2011 at 10:48 PM
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    The Idea:

    After seeing many, many threads about people losing millions to the dicers I have decided to come in and find out how to reverse that fortune and make millions. The general idea is to take a defined system and finite moneys and go into the RS dicing worlds and make millions off of the dice hosters. The system, for now a secret but I will be starting with five 2m sets. After I grow the 2m to 10m then I will bank the 10m and take out the next 2m set and grow to another 10m. This produces a minimum of 8m profit per set, though the bank roll for each set can exceed 10m meaning the profit can exceed 8m.

    The Journey:

    I began simply by finding a system; this system minimizes losses to a bettor willing to follow it and knows how to fight urges of continuing when winning. The system is simple but effective in the fact that you self-limit the bank roll to what you can afford but can easily multiply money. The smaller the bets the more difficult it is to double your money, but when you begin getting into bank rolls of around 5m or so then money can be doubled in few rolls, even if some of the rolls are losses. The only way to destroy your bank roll is to have several losses at the beginning. (3+ losses)

    I programmed a simulation in DarkBASIC, a simple 1 – 100 number generator. I took and set my odds at 50/50, meaning a roll of 50 < would be x2 and a 50 > would be a loss of the original bet. I gave myself a 1m bank on the first test and doubled it in 6 rolls, then for the second test I added the wins back to the original bank for 2m. I rolled to 3m wins (5 rolls), though my intentions were to only double my money, I added it back to the original bank for 5m. I doubled this bank (3 rolls) and made a little extra to get 10.5m, then in the final test I took the 10.5m and turned it into 27m (4 rolls) – though the intentions were only to double it to 20m but the bets just fell so I got the 27m.

    I know the odds will shift a little bit in-game because most people won’t play a 50 x2 game but the system remains solid, mostly because as long as the you receive over about 1/3 odds of winning you will stay in the positive barring a bad streak at the first few bets of the bank.

    A Note On Monte Carlo Fallacy: Monte Carlo, or Gambler’s Fallacy is the belief that the previous outcomes of a memory-less game has influence on the future outcomes. Such as someone saying that the last 5 rolls have been 50 > then the next roll has to be 50 < so you bet a large portion of your money. This is the downfall of many gamblers and shall not be believed in the tests I am going to perform.

    Where You Can Help!

    I have a limited bank, not even enough to cover the five 2m sets so if you would like to invest in this experiment then contact me via PM. All donations are welcome, though I am only looking for around 10 – 20m. The benefits of investing is you will get and up-to-date progress log, you will be the first that the system is released to, and will be kept up to date on all gambling ventures in the future – including: New systems, new games, good CCs, and anything else.

    You can also help by suggesting a good CC, I am f2p so it will have to be a f2p CC. I am looking for a well known, strictly regulated CC. Scamming would be a detriment for this experiment.

    I am considering taking on a partner, someone willing to work at this and has the money to do it, the winnings could be huge if this system works out the way the simulations show it will work.
     
  3. Unread #2 - Jun 3, 2011 at 11:51 PM
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    Stopped reading there. I FREQUENTLY lose more than 3 times, and win more than 3 times.
     
  5. Unread #3 - Jun 4, 2011 at 12:09 AM
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    Won't work. Unless you are extremely lucky, in the long run you never profit from a 50/50 gamble.
     
  7. Unread #4 - Jun 4, 2011 at 12:10 AM
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    A little to risky for my taste, good luck with it though. May have the possibility to work.
     
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    If this were possible, then why do this in runescape?

    Vegas and roulette are that way --->
     
  11. Unread #6 - Jun 4, 2011 at 12:39 AM
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    Apparently you didn't read closely enough, you can take 3 loses but if they are the first few bets of the set then it will cost you your bank.



    Luck is a minor player, the entire thing is in the system.


    Thank you.



    I still got a few years before I can do that.
     
  13. Unread #7 - Jun 4, 2011 at 1:19 AM
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    I wish you luck, but I can't see how this would be successful. It's a game of luck, this isn't blackjack where the odds can be tipped ever so slightly in player's favor. It's a number game, that for all intensive purposes is "random", and there's no system or mathematical pattern to exploit.

    Regardless, looking forward to seeing your progress/results.
     
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    This.
     
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    This isn't using number patterns in the rolls. I would have gotten a 1m profit but I got scammed 700k on a roll. Stupid hosts.
     
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    ya im pretty sure you will get cleaned in about a day, thats why people pay millions and even billions for ranks is so they can clean other people
     
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    ^

    You can win with a high number, or you can with if the opponent rolls a low number.

    I won 7 times in a row a few weeks ago. =o
     
  23. Unread #12 - Jun 4, 2011 at 6:53 AM
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    Or you can assume that 'random' is indeed a fallacy and can spend the next 10 years finding patterns in Jagex's random number generating function.
     
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    Ups and downs some suck some are great its all about it.
     
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    goodluck.it might work.I do this also but i start with 200k and when i get a win i bank the original 200k and start again
     
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    you will always lose in the long run. due to the hosts taking 10% and the odds only being 50/50 by definition you will end up with 10% less than you started with, assuming you dont get cleaned first.

    the odds ARE 50/50, there is no "secret" strategy for winning this.
     
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    This isn't a secret strategy, no computer program, no hacks, nothing of the sort. It just uses probability and statistics to better the odds using a specified system with strict rules.
     
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    what i learned is from dice is that you cant apply any sort of statistics.
    for example if you lose 5 straight times to that person they should have a 1/32 chance of beating you... now lets say you roll a 9 on the 6th time, the odds of them beating you now are 1/128 and it always seems to happen
     
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    What everyone isn't seeing is that I am not talking about the rolls, I am talking about the bettor. The system restricts the bettor so the rolls only the deciding factor and nothing else. No recording the rolls, betting when something is 'hot', nothing like that.
     
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    I am using a modified version of the split martingale.

    Currently quadrupled my starting bank of 2m, I am at 7.9m now.
     
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