Real Logic Behind Reports & Bans???

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Real Logic Behind Reports & Bans???
  1. Unread #1 - Sep 12, 2010 at 12:54 AM
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    So my latest botting account project has been making an account (which is f2p btw) to 90 wc for some cash then to 40 att and trying to get up str. So this morning I woke up to check my proggy and the chat log show a previous person calling me a bot and saying I was reported. How many reports does it usually take to be banned from experience? Is it likely my account will be banned after this person reported me?
     
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    Only 1. If he has reported you and you were botting then your most likley to be banned. Let the account cool down and don't play on it, that might increase your chance of not getting banned.

    Hopfuly your account won't be banned.
     
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    straight up, one report doesn't do shit. if you get banned on one report thats bad luck, otherwise jagex tends to pass it by as a noob not knowing any better from someone who doesn't want to talk.

    continue to play it, do something legit for a while.
     
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    Jagex have a zero policy on botting doesnt matter if your the newist player or Zezima... They don't care if they see a report against you there going to look further into it. It will normaly take 24 Hours you will just have to wait and see, You may be lucky you may not, either way good luck lol.
     
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    No offence, but you really dont know much. They dont have the TIME to look into each and every single report. They will only start looking into botting reports after a multiple of reports are received. I would say around 5 or more.
     
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    Lol Non taken as I didn't really explain my self correctly, They don't check them they don't check anything like that its all done automaticly. I heard some were Im not sure if its true but after 6 Hours of non stop continouse play and 1 Report you will be banned, If you havn't noticed there is "Perm Bans" and manuel Perm bans these bans are done by a Jagex mod or Player Mod they are almost inpossible to get out of, but the normal "Perm Bans" are ones that have been done by the automatic report and when you appeal it they will look at it further.
     
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    Any ITers out here. Dudes, jagex anti ban system is nothing more then a Microsoft office acces system get over yourself. Like they have java applets that record user client mousemovements to see if they bot or not. I mean, do you know how much bandwith it takes to record every player, thats technically and virtually impossible, even if they had 100billion euros to spend.

    I agree that reports are the main source of bans. But like i said, jagex has a acces database (kind of thingy program..) and if somebody at the end of the day had 1 report on his name, and 20 others had 4 reports on their name, the 20 people with 4 reports will automatically be skyrocketed to the top of the offence list.

    The j mod all doing this shit has to go trough maybe 50reports of which 40 of those reports where just for fun (50per world) time braking and spoiling fun and are not to be taken seriously.

    Maybe they can also change the list to activity. Which sorts the most active players above the list (amount of hours) which coud force the staff to atleast more actively monitor you if they coudnt directly prove you to be botting.

    its just a database system, and according upon specific kind of activities they can filter you to the top of the list.

    I think the amount of reports matters, aswell as the evidence in a report. A report abuse will record 1minut of captured video in which evidence should have been shown. One example is that you get lured as a bot. But dont be afraid, premium bots cant be lured, totally impossible.

    But in regardence to evidence over a report, i think it ensures a very fast ban, within 1 or 2 days. When your talking about the amount of reports i think 1 reports is nothing to worry about. I got a skiller that i babysitted and got reported many times. Still no ban, mainly because i just talked back because of the babysitting.

    If you are in a clan chat you can also put public off, when a jmod investigates your account you have a legit reason to put public off, this is what most high lvled players do to prevent admire abuse by fans around them. Although i only suggest to do so, if you talk in the cc at a frequent rate. Putting public off all the time, and your not in a cc chat is a very likely ban, since it just makes you more suspicious. Jagex doesnt know if you talk, but they will if they implement their database filters (database setting...) "speech activity" at which they can filter players by what and how many lines they said. If a red button to the next said public off, they probably go to investigate right away.

    I coud write pages, but a database is the only answer to how jagex monitors bots (as far as theyre able to do so atleast) How efficient this is... well quite, so therefore safebotting and all the other precautions are recommended to follow to avoid your name to get to the top of the offence list. But if you think you made it there due to a stupid mistake, cheat or other rulebraking event then just make sure you play legit on that account for a week.
     
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    Like every1 else have said, you don't know much about the banning system. When someone reports you, your account is flagged, while being flagged your account will recieve more randoms for a period of time, Probably based on how many times you have been reported. These randoms are then recorded, if you tend to log out in randoms, or often get them wrong. This is what will get you banned not some1 just reporting you for macroing.
     
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    How about someone do a test about this.... Someone create a noob account and leave it botting for about 1 week. Then get on your other account and go talk and talk and talk to it then report it. Then give it a day or two. No ban then bot some more and then report him again. See what it really takes.
     
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    @ilcrba

    Id rather not do this at the same ips.
     
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    Well you could just make a thread. Im sure lots of people would be interested in something like this. Then every time you need someone to report you just post on there and someone will see it and report you. So then it will be ip's from all over.
     
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    Ye, its a temptational idea. But like everybody that wants to try it out already uses bots. And it might be possible for jagex to track down other botting accounts. And there have been reports of people that got all there bots (like 6 at a time) got banned on the same bot client.

    So getting yourself banned on purpose is not a very good idea. But maybe their is a fool on sythe that has nothing to lose that might take the risk. I dont think anybody will.

    Atleast I wont. But it would be certainly interesting to know.
     
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    One report doesn't do anything.

    Players think a player not responding is a bot. So don't worry about it.
     
  27. Unread #14 - Sep 12, 2010 at 11:06 PM
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    Thanks for all the replies everyone, lots of information thats useful.

    I know this will sound vague...but how long does it take to be banned? Say you stop for 2 weeks?
     
  29. Unread #15 - Sep 13, 2010 at 4:59 AM
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    Nobody can tell you, nobody knows for a fact on when you might get banned.
    Amount of reports matters (1 reports is going to do shit)
    And the amount of times you fail at a random event.
    Babysitting a bot is one of the best things you can do to ensure not to get a ban. By a report you get flagged and youll get randoms. If you find out you get more randoms, theres only one wise thing to do, play legit for a while and make sure you solve them from there on. Unless your bot can solve them itself. But being flagged with multiple randoms... then just play legit. You will always know because you babysitted. You can macro a bot but only if you know that you havent been flagged lately, so the chances of multiple randoms overnight is slim at best.

    When i account get flagged it can take up from 24hours to 1 month until they ban you.
    People got banned on their mains 1 day after using their first ever used bots. Others got banned 1month after a botting attempt, 1 month botters are mostly suiciders since they are so easy to detect (have already mastered to first place on the offence list) and for some reason i think jagex makes them live for a whole month on purpose to bullie botters.

    Every ban however, begins after being flagged, There is no way for jagex to know that you bot if there were no reports. 1 report is going to be a neglected report. If you meet a J mod online, and your not babysitting your really fucked up as can be.

    I mean, fagex wont tell you when they turn out a ban. But if you've been flagged and get several randoms, make sure you babysit and do them yourself, or even better, play legit all the time. Once your done with the randoms, you can macro, bot do whatever you like until you get the feeling things will get out of hand again.

    Preventing a ban, is nothing more then a intuition you must follow and a safe environment you gotta create, 24/7botting or active botting is in my view only recommended by premium bots therefore.

    So im not going to say how long it takes until a ban, since this can vary greatly. Just make sure, they never get the idea you are botting, and you should be fine.

    And i dont think, that stop playing will help alot. Sounds more like your personall panic reaction, why would you stop playing, then just do it legit like i said from there on. But if you would stop for 2 weeks there is no thing to tell you if it got banned or not. You might be able to play and get banned the day after, and it wouldnt be my decision but its a possibility. Its better to let jagex know, your overall very active, instead you will be active by legit playing for a week, during that playtime you will be unflagged (as i call it) and it would be pretty safe to start again. But since ban or bot investigatiosn can take up to a month, it might be possible you get banned long after that anyway, and you might really piss yourself. Thats a dilemma, nobody can help you with, bot smart, make right decisions, and i can only say, you might get pretty far.
    Theres no phrase i coud give you that guarantees you wont get banned. And if you get banned, just start over, in under a year you have a all 70 - 80s skill character.
     
  31. Unread #16 - Sep 13, 2010 at 5:18 AM
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    1 report does nothing...it takes a couple of reports before you get flagged...which will probably result in a ban if you continue botting.
     
  33. Unread #17 - Sep 13, 2010 at 8:44 AM
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    Thanks for your post Goos..lots of useful info


    I'm pretty much fucked. I set my autofighter pro to kill al-kharid warriors overnight on my 85 range pure and when I woke up it had a random event box but was just clicking the name of an offline player on my friends list. Looks like I got xp for 5 hours of play so for 4 hours it was just standing there -_-
     
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    It depends. I don't think they go through every report that is filed but if they do check it you will probably be banned. Try to keep a low profile so you don't get reported again. This is a complete guess but I would say they maybe check about 80-90% of the reports, so if your in the lucky 10-20% then yo may have gotten off scot free.
     
  37. Unread #19 - Sep 13, 2010 at 9:38 AM
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    I dont think 1 report does anything, unless they have a list of people they trust all the time.
    Either way you not know if it has done anything for a couple a week, as thats normal time for banhammer i think.
     
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    Goos = botting god.


    love his posts.


    I personally think that they really can't detect much unless you 24/7 and/or are reported.
     
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