[Womba]Pokemon Competitive Battle Guide[Womba]

Today I will be explaining the basics of competitive battling. If you need help on a team or whatnot, you are free to challenge me via Shoddy Battle.

*NEW*
Battle vs Video

We both played well. I kinda fucked up on the aerodactyl. I hate those things. I had already seen his curselax, so I wanted to preserve my Machamp. My plan was to take the EQ/Rock slide on Rotom, but get off a will o' wisp to save my machamp. I would have lost probobly if I didnt get the toxic off on the smeargle. I was able to stall him out and make sure the Snorlax didn't have a subsitute. I predicted the t-bolt twice in the battle, the first time went he went into Jolteon, and the second time when I then switched into Flygon. I didnt want to overpredict, so I took the tbolt on my blissey. He got unlucky with some confusion-hax, but thats why I have a machamp! This was the first battle. 3-0 Me


I lost the second , my TTar failed to crit him with stone edge so I lost 1-0 Him

3rd battle

Specs Scept is a monster in any situation (OU/UU/UBER), and took down a significant portion of him team.

If you're gonna say I whored out with my blissey, then fuck you , its a different and non standard set. He had 5 OUs and one BL, I had 5 OUs and an UU.

We ended up going 2-1 with me winning overall
GG video, I had some annoying hax but thats how the game goes

I also beat cosrob BTW


First some necessities on a team.


A fast pokemon with good attack/special attack. This is called a sweeper. Examples would be Lucario, Infernape, Jolteon and Salamence. The whole point is to have a diverse movepool to 1 hit ko any pokemon it faces.

A Pokemon with good defense/special defense. This is a tank. They take attacks that would wipe out any other Pokemon. Examples are Swampert, Blissey, Clefable, Hypno, Skarmory, and Blastoice.


The goal is to have two sweepers, one with high attack, and the other with high special attack. If a Latias (Special Sweeper) is facing a blissey (Special Wall) you're kinda fucked. The answer would be to send in a Hitmonlee to absorb the potential T-Wave (Limber Ability) and then get off a physical based Close Combat on the Special based Blissey.


It is the same thing for tanks. One with high special defense, and the other wise high defense. In the situation before, the Blissey could be switched out for a Skarmory, to absorb the close combat. Skarmory is a great physical wall, and would take little damage from a close combat.

Just some basic subsections of pokemon

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Cleric: A pokemon that passes or wishes to heal other pokes. e.g Jirachi
Spiker: A poke that lays down spikes. e.g Froslass
Toxic Spiker: A poke that lays down toxic spikes. e.g Nidoqueen.
Spinner: A pokemon that uses rapid spin to clear entry hazards. e.g Hitmontop.
Fat pink whore: Blissey
Sub(punching/seeding/minding): Any poke that uses subsitute in coordination
with another move. e.g Sub-seeding Shaymin
Tier: A group of pokemon
Uber: The Uber tier. These pokemon are incredibly strong. E.G Darkrai
OU: The Over Used Tier. These pokemon are the commonly used pokemon. E.G Infernape
UU: Under used tier. E.G Registeel
NU: Never Used tier. E.G Flareon
Phazer: Pseudo-Hazer. A pokemon that has a move similar to haze
that negate any stat changes. These pokemon are used to stop sweeps E.G Swampert with roar.

Choice items are very important. These items raise a pokes stat by +1, but they can only use one move until switched out. Many pokes carry the move "trick" and a choice item, so they can cripple the opposing poke (normally a wall) by switching items. Here is a list of choice items

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Choice Specs - Raises Sp. Attack one stage
Choice Scarf - Raises Speed one stage
Choice Band - Raises Attack one stage

Easy ways to stop a sweep!

Physical sweepers are very common in HG/SS. Dragon Dance and Swords Dance are common moves, and coupled with priority moves can sweep a whole team. The not so obvious response to this is abilities. Abilities like “Intimidate” reduce the attack stat of the first pokemon encountered by 1. This means a +2 Lucario is now a +1 Lucario, often changing the outcome of a game. The other option is abilities like “Static” and “Flame body. When pokemon with those abilities are attacked, they have a 30% of being paralyzed or burned respectively. Poison point is also an option but not advised, as the poison is the normal poison, not toxic poison. Burn will lower the attack stat of the pokemon, and paralyze will slow it down.

If you are being swept by a raindance team constantly, I would recommend using Toxicroag. Toxicroag's ability "Dry Skin" is similar to water absorb in that all water attacks used on it do not do damage. In the rain "Dry Skin" Also heals HP. So it is a combination of "Rain Dish" and "Water Absorb".

My anti rain dance Toxicroag set

@Life Orb Adamant EVs 252 Attack 252 Speed 4 HP
-T-Punch
-Swords Dance
-Sucker Punch
-Brick Break


Here is an example of one of my pokemon teams
didn't add EVs and natures for rip protection.

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Azelf @ choice band
-trick
-u turn
-explosion
-stealth rocks

Infernape @life orb

-nasty plot
-hp ice
-Fire blast
-vacuum wave

Jirachi @lefties

-wish
-body slam
-iron head
-subsitute

Jolteon @choice specs

-tbolt
-shadow ball
-hp grass
-signal beam

Swampert @lefties

-EQ
-Toxic
-roar
-ice beam

Salamence @lum berry

-DDance
-EQ
-Outrage
-Fire Blast

this is a pretty offensive team

Here are a few battle that I have saved using shoddy battle these are the pokes I was using

This is an OU match

I'm Willytm

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Rules: Sleep Clause, Species Clause
jianjqc sent out Azelf (lvl 100 Azelf).
Willytm sent out Azelf (lvl 100 Azelf).
Azelf used U-turn.
It's super effective!
Azelf lost 98% of its health.
Ogaito has entered the room.
Willytm switched in Jolteon (lvl 100 Jolteon ?).
Azelf used Stealth Rock.
Pointed stones float in the air around the foe's team!
---
jianjqc switched in Swampert (lvl 100 Swampert ?).
Jolteon used Thunderbolt.
It doesn't affect Swampert...
---
Willytm switched in Azelf (lvl 100 Azelf).
Pointed stones dug into Azelf.
Azelf lost 12% of its health.
Swampert used Stone Edge.
Azelf lost 75% of its health.
---
Azelf used Explosion.
Swampert lost 192% of its health.
jianjqc's Swampert fainted.
Willytm's Azelf fainted.
---
jianjqc switched in Azelf (lvl 100 Azelf).
Willytm switched in Jolteon (lvl 100 Jolteon ?).
Pointed stones dug into Jolteon.
Jolteon lost 12% of its health.
jianjqc switched in Heatran (lvl 100 Heatran ?).
Jolteon used Thunderbolt.
A critical hit!
Heatran lost 161% of its health.
jianjqc's Heatran fainted.
---
jianjqc switched in Metagross (lvl 100 Metagross).
Willytm switched in Swampert (lvl 100 Swampert ?).
Pointed stones dug into Swampert.
Swampert lost 6% of its health.
Metagross used Thunderpunch.
It doesn't affect Swampert...
Swampert's leftovers restored its health a little!
Swampert restored 6% of its health.
---
Metagross used Earthquake.
Swampert lost 43% of its health.
Metagross lost 10% of its health.
Swampert used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Metagross lost 63% of its health.
Swampert's leftovers restored its health a little!
Swampert restored 6% of its health.
---
Willytm switched in Salamence (lvl 100 Salamence ?).
Pointed stones dug into Salamence.
Salamence lost 25% of its health.
Metagross used Explosion.
Salamence lost 304% of its health.
Willytm's Salamence fainted.
jianjqc's Metagross fainted.
---
jianjqc switched in Scizor (lvl 100 Scizor ?).
Willytm switched in Swampert (lvl 100 Swampert ?).
Pointed stones dug into Swampert.
Swampert lost 6% of its health.
Willytm: lame
Scizor used Bullet Punch.
It's not very effective...
Swampert lost 17% of its health.
Scizor lost 10% of its health.
Swampert used Earthquake.
Scizor lost 41% of its health.
Swampert's leftovers restored its health a little!
Swampert restored 6% of its health.
---
Scizor used Superpower.
Swampert lost 50% of its health.
Willytm's Swampert fainted.
Scizor's attack was lowered.
Scizor's defence was lowered.
Scizor lost 10% of its health.
---
Willytm switched in Infernape (lvl 100 Infernape ?).
Pointed stones dug into Infernape.
Infernape lost 12% of its health.
Scizor used Bullet Punch.
It's not very effective...
Infernape lost 25% of its health.
Scizor lost 10% of its health.
Infernape used Nasty Plot.
Infernape's special attack was sharply raised.
---
Infernape used Vacuum Wave.
A critical hit!
Scizor lost 108% of its health.
jianjqc's Scizor fainted.
Infernape lost 10% of its health.
---
jianjqc switched in Breloom (lvl 100 Breloom ?).
Breloom used Mach Punch.
Infernape lost 41% of its health.
Infernape used Fire Blast.
It's super effective!
Breloom lost 773% of its health. (OWNED)
jianjqc's Breloom fainted.
Infernape lost 10% of its health.
---
jianjqc switched in Azelf (lvl 100 Azelf).
Infernape used Vacuum Wave.
It's not very effective...
Azelf lost 41% of its health.
jianjqc's Azelf fainted.
Willytm wins!
jianjqc has left the room.
Ogaito has left the room.

This was a 3-0, battle. It was semi close. Still GG mang

He lost because of some unlucky crits, but also he didn't have a counter for ape. Getting the vacuum wave crit was meaningless, as he was already -1 attack. He pretty much allowed me to set up. The real counter on his team was already dead. Heatran was meaningless. It wasn't scarfed so even if it was alive a +2 vacuum wave from a timid special ape would kill it.
Heres a lulzy UU match, in which I demonstrate why you should use a Toxicroag
My pokemons

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Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause
jawsh60 sent out Forretress (lvl 100 Forretress ?).
Willytm sent out Registeel (lvl 100 Registeel).
Willytm switched in Xatu (lvl 100 Xatu ?).
Forretress used Spikes.
Spikes were scattered around the foe's team!
---
Xatu used Heat Wave.
It's super effective!
Forretress lost 100% of its health.
jawsh60's Forretress fainted.
---
jawsh60 switched in Zapdos (lvl 100 Zapdos).
Zapdos is exerting its pressure!
Xatu used Heat Wave.
Zapdos lost 43% of its health.
Zapdos used Charge.
Zapdos's special defence was raised.
Zapdos is charging power!
---
Xatu used Heat Wave.
Zapdos lost 33% of its health.
Zapdos was burned!
Zapdos used Charge Beam.
It's super effective!
A critical hit!
Xatu lost 100% of its health.
Willytm's Xatu fainted.
Zapdos's special attack was raised.
Zapdos was hurt by its burn!
Zapdos lost 12% of its health.
---
Willytm switched in Sceptile (lvl 100 Sceptile ?).
Sceptile was hurt by Spikes!
Sceptile lost 12% of its health.
Sceptile used Hidden Power.
It's super effective!
Zapdos lost 12% of its health.
jawsh60's Zapdos fainted.
---
jawsh60 switched in Heatran (lvl 100 Heatran ?).
Willytm switched in Lapras (lvl 100 Lapras ?).
Lapras was hurt by Spikes!
Lapras lost 12% of its health.
Heatran used Flamethrower.
Lapras lost 41% of its health.
Lapras's leftovers restored its health a little!
Lapras restored 6% of its health.
---
Lapras used Surf.
It's super effective!
Heatran lost 66% of its health.
Heatran used Earth Power.
Lapras lost 26% of its health.
Lapras's leftovers restored its health a little!
Lapras restored 6% of its health.
---
Heatran used Earth Power.
Lapras lost 23% of its health.
Lapras used Surf.
It's super effective!
A critical hit!
Heatran lost 34% of its health.
jawsh60's Heatran fainted.
Lapras's leftovers restored its health a little!
Lapras restored 6% of its health.
---
jawsh60 switched in Lucario (lvl 100 Lucario ?).
Lucario used Bullet Punch.
Lapras lost 16% of its health.
Willytm's Lapras fainted.
Lucario lost 10% of its health.
---
Willytm switched in Toxicroak (lvl 100 Toxicroak ?).
Toxicroak was hurt by Spikes!
Toxicroak lost 12% of its health.
Toxicroak used Brick Break.
It's super effective!
Lucario lost 90% of its health.
jawsh60's Lucario fainted.
Toxicroak lost 10% of its health.
---
jawsh60 switched in Kingdra (lvl 100 Kingdra ?).
Toxicroak used Ice Punch.
Kingdra lost 34% of its health.
Toxicroak lost 10% of its health.
Kingdra used Dragon Dance.
Kingdra's attack was raised.
Kingdra's speed was raised.
---
Kingdra used Rain Dance.
Rain began to fall!
Toxicroak used Ice Punch.
Kingdra lost 35% of its health.
Toxicroak lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
Toxicroak soaked up rain!
Toxicroak restored 12% of its health.
---
Kingdra used Waterfall.
Toxicroak's Dry Skin absorbed damage!
Toxicroak restored 25% of its health.
Toxicroak used Ice Punch.
Kingdra lost 32% of its health.
jawsh60's Kingdra fainted.
Toxicroak lost 10% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
Toxicroak soaked up rain!
Toxicroak restored 12% of its health.
---
Willytm: lawl
jawsh60 switched in Skarmory (lvl 100 Skarmory ?).
Willytm switched in Registeel (lvl 100 Registeel).
Registeel was hurt by Spikes!
Registeel lost 12% of its health.
Skarmory used Stealth Rock.
Pointed stones float in the air around the foe's team!
The rain continues to fall.
Registeel's leftovers restored its health a little!
Registeel restored 6% of its health.
---
Registeel used Thunder Wave.
Skarmory is paralysed! It may be unable to move!
Skarmory used Whirlwind.
Willytm switched in Rotom (lvl 100 Rotom).
Pointed stones dug into Rotom.
Rotom lost 12% of its health.
The rain continues to fall.
---
Rotom used Thunderbolt.
It's super effective!
A critical hit!
Skarmory lost 100% of its health.
jawsh60's Skarmory fainted.
Willytm wins!
jawsh60 has left the room.

Berrys


Berrys are very important in pokemon. A single berry can change the outcome of a game. For example lum berry salamence can outrage, then cure it's confusion with the lum. A heatran with occa can take the earthquake from a swampert, then fire back a HP Grass. Yache berry sub sweepers can decimate slow teams with minimal setting up.
Consult this for berry help http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Berries#List_of_Berries_3


Wallbreaking

If you hate walls, this will help you a bunch. In OU walls are annoying. Blissey, Skarmory, and Suicune are the three most common. The way to defeat these walls is not to use a super effective move, but to either status the wall, or use a move that exploits the wall's weakness. E.G For Blissey I often use a Dugtrio to trap the Blissey. Blisseys have high Sp. Def but only a base of 10 Defense, and with Dugtrio's ability "Arena Trap" Blissey cannot switch out to avoid a physically based attack. Skarmorys have a base 140 Defense, but low Sp. Def. Any specially based attacks rip through a Skarmory.

Sometimes for walls that set up (Suicune, CM Blissey) I use perish song. Rather than simply roaring, perish song can kill a pokemon. When Perish song is used, both pokemon have 3 turns to switch out, but if they don't, they are killed. If the opponent's only poke left is a CM Suicune, they cannot switch out, and are thus dead.

This will be updated with a variety of things. like EV tips, OU/UU/NU Strategy, sub seeding, para-flinch-fusion (AKA AWESOME) and more

 

Good job finally putting work into this guide, it could turn out great, if you need any help with EV's im your guy, im an expert on em.

 

Hah thanks

I ended up in the past 5 months playing a shitloaded of HG/SS

but thanks I'll call you up. You are the sythe pokemon master
I plan to make this
much more comprehensive then my last guide

 

Bammp

 

You should specify that the team you described is a "standard" team, and give an example.
You might also want to include a purely offensive team and a stall team, as they are both effective in the metagame.

 

Stall teams = lame
when I have acaess to my computer I will update this with examples of my nu, uu, ou uber sunny day, trick room teams lol

other than that, how is it so far?

 

Yeah I recommend EV training. Blissey + maxed HP = TANK.

 

EV training is obvious lololol

blissey is walled by my marowak lol
yeah, a fuckin marowak
hypno is better than blissey also

 

To be honest, it's a fairly slapdash and badly organized guide that misses some important topics. If you're going to update it, good.

http://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/intro_comp_pokemon

That's an excellent example of an introduction to competitive battling.

 

>.<
I know smogon lol, I battle on their server
but yeah I hope to make something similar to tht
thanks

 

WTF, people still play pokemon nowadays?


Anyways, very indepth detailed guide womba <3

 

Ya lol
pokemon is back
updated the guide
added a team

 

Work on the format, alot!

Also, add items other then berry's items like choice band or life orb can be great on certain pokemon. My deoxys@life orb with maxed attack and spec attack with attack form can destroy, hell, deoxys could have his own section of a guide, with the different forms he can be EV'd like a fucking bomb.

Theres my 2 cents lol, im liking the guide so far.

Oh and Serebii.net >Smogon

 

Deoxys is an uber lol.
also specs modest jolteon wrecks deoxys, no matter what form. So does any spiritomb, dugtrio, or ho oh
yeah, I will talk about choice items
again I have written all of this so far in my iPod touch, as I don't have accses to my computer ATM.
And no lol, smogon has more movesets, tiers, tournaments, and hosts it's own shoddy battle server. Serebeii just has like game walltrhoughs etc. Also
the smogon forums are helpful.
Do you like my team though

 

Nice guide. I saw you said you battle people want to try me

rules : Just a standard battle.

 

I would love to battle
however I only battle on shoddy battle (it's faster, easier, no training)
by standerd I presume ou, common cliases, no bliss skarm combo, no sub spore punch breloom

 

Well i link you to the rules

http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=290790

Sleep Clause

You can't use sleep inducing moves in opponent's Pokémon when there's another Pokémon in his/her team asleep. Yawn can't be used to PseudoHaze (make opponent switch) when there's another Pokémon asleep caused by you. When the asleep Pokémon awakes or faints, you're free to make another Pokémon of his/her team asleep. Sleeping being caused by Effect Spore or Rest are disconsidered from Sleep Clause.

Species Clause

You can't use two of the same Pokémon in a team.

No Hacks

Don't need to explain, you are prohibited to use any illegally obtained Pokémon. Hacking parents to breed is also unaccepted, but people can't control this just looking at the stats. Hacking Pokémon with "legit stats" is also not allowed.


No Ubers

Uber Pokémon are overpowered Pokémon. Since these are "Standard Rules" you have to use the "Standard Pokémon".
The current uber list:
Arceus
Darkrai
Deoxys (all forms)
Dialga
Garchomp
Giratina
Giratina-O
Groudon
Ho-oh
Kyogre
Latias (With Soul Dew)
Latios
Lugia
Manaphy
Mew
Mewtwo
Palkia
Rayquaza
Shaymin-S
Wobbuffet

No Disconnecting

You can't turn off your DS or move away from signal range to end a battle. People can have weak routers so don't always fight with the people if he/she disconnected. Not exactly a rule, but an ethic sense.

Self KO - NOT STANDARD!

You can't use Destiny Bond, Perish Song, Selfdestruct or Explosion to force a tie. People usually dislike the fact he/she lost the last Pokémon in a battle, the rule exists, but it's rarely added as standard since it's also a strategy.

Actually You can't use 2 of pralysis and frozen and stuff inducing moves in opponent's Pokémon when there's another Pokémon in his/her team

Basically it

 

Latias is an uber currently. Smogon rules are what are generally accepted by the pokemon battling community.

You forgot evasion clause
Species clause, and like 20 others lol. People play with different clauses. Some people don't allow "broken" pokes (CB Scizor, Spore Sub-Punch Breeloom)
And is is acceptable to hack pokemon, as long as they have legit moves EVs IVs and natures.

Serebeii is for walkthroughs and noobs, Sorry mate.
Wynaut is also an uber

Thanks for the rules though

 

You're using legendaries D:
Therefor, I hate your team. (it's actually pretty well-balanced if you ask me)

My favorite types of teams are batonpass/subsitute teams.

Serebii is very useful... smogon is too, but it's more fun to make up your own strategies D:

OT: Not a bad guide, kind of scattered and somewhat lacking in-depth qualities, but pokemon is hard to explain if you play it right.

 

Il go by Smogon rules for uber and not.

I didn't make them i just copied the rules from serebii forum (probably 2years old lol) Yeah all the clause i forgot ill play with.

Since when was there broken pokes ( i really have never heard of it)

But i would allow it since my team is made up of one of them.


Yes hacks are allowed if they dont have perfect 31 ivs and 255 evs

Once again i just copied the rules.

Serebii is for lazy people who dont want to right everything up lol


btw my fc is: 1376 3304 0959