sciencetifically proven atheist wrong!

I'm not going to copy and paste this, so I'll give you the link.

http://www.doesgodexist.org/Phamplets/Mansproof.html

http://www.doesgodexist.org/Phamplets/WhoCreatedGod/WhoCreatedGod.html

http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html

Explain. Please read all of it or you will not understand. Atheist don't want to read it because they are afraid of the truth. I will add more later.

No offense to anyone...No hard feelings.

 

nice and good point

 

load of crap... right now i don't have the time... gimme 1 hour and ill blow your theory out of the water

 

That's all circumstantial, not science.

 

i agree

its not scientific because if it was actualy scientific it would prove that most religons are fake

 

It's really not proof. Here are the arguments that I found:

1). Most Atheists say there was no beginning.

Not true. Most Atheists acknowledge the achievements of science, one of which proves that the universe began some 13.7 billion years ago.

2). If there is no beginning, we would have run out of hydrogen.

Correct. Another reason why most reasonable people will not attempt to argue that there was no beginning.

3). If the universe goes through a cycle of births and deaths, it would lose energy.

Actually, it wouldn't. The universe is EVERYTHING. Nothing can escape from it. It is the container of absolutely everything, with no exceptions. Where would energy and matter escape to?

As to the second article, the question "Who created God?" remains valid. For the same reasons that the universe cannot have existed forever, God cannot have existed forever.

The third article is lame. Here, let me show you:
1. Does God exist? The complexity of our planet points to a deliberate Designer who not only created our universe, but sustains it today.

Our universe has had trillions and trillions of opportunities for life to arise. If life can only arise under perfect conditions, obviously it would have to happen some time.
2. Does God exist? The human brain's complexity shows a higher intelligence behind it.

Not really. Natural selection, self-organization, and swarm intelligence rules explain it quite succinctly, without involving any sort of deity.
3. Does God exist? "Chance" or "natural causes" are insufficient explanations.

Pasteur's experiments with flies, meat, and maggots, and the origin of life on Earth over hundreds of millions of years are not quite the same scenario.
4. Does God exist? To state with certainty that there is no God, a person has to ignore the passion of an enormously vast number of people who are convinced that there is a God.

Human beings, unfortunately, are weak, uncertain creatures that are brought up having a parent figure to protect them. Once they are on their own, it is comforting to imagine a benevolent higher power watching over them.
5. Does God exist? We know God exists because he pursues us. He is constantly initiating and seeking for us to come to him.

Lol.

I spend so much time trying to refute the existence of God because the very idea irritates me. I spend equal amounts of time discussing why .99 repeating is not equal to zero, why the Bush Administration is completely idiotic, and why same-sex couples should be allowed to marry.
6. Does God exist? Unlike any other revelation of God, Jesus Christ is the clearest, most specific picture of God pursuing us.

First, this is specifically relating to Christianity, not God.

Second, it's been 2,000 years since Jesus walked on Earth. I doubt that all records of him are completely unaltered by time.

These sources do NOT scientifically prove Atheists wrong. They use false logic, terrible rationalizations, etc.

Good day to you, sir.

 

here are six reasons god DOESN'T Exist, (notice i didn't capitilize god showing my disrespect for both this thread, and all those who make threads like these.)

Also I would Like to point out two funny things about the everystudent.com link. First off there are SIX reasons that he exists is there a familiar number floating around out there that belongs to those who hate god? hmmm... could it be six six six? why not do SEVEN reasons for god existing. Also it was written by some one named marilyn. ever hear of marilyn manson?



doesn't look like much of a christian eh? Now to the real reasons...

1. "Does God exist? The complexity of our planet points to a deliberate Designer who not only created our universe, but sustains it today."

The earth... is perfect in both size and distance from the sun, two things I must comment on. Don't use the axis rotation as a fucking excuse! It keeps our temperature between -30 and +120. True. But the temperature also goes below -30 and above 120+ sometimes correct? so what do we do? We move. IF YOU ARE COLD ALL THE TIME MOVE TO FUCKING SOUTH AMERICA... TOO HOT??? GOTO ALASKA!!! PROBLEM SOLVED If our earth were a few feet further from the sun, then we would move towards the equator more and more than that, we probably would have EVOLVED DIFFERENTLY like most other species to survive the climate changes. Also, if the earth were bigger we MIGHT pick up stray hydrogen. If space weren't a COMPLETE VACUUM we most likely would pick up stray hydrogen but the chancesthat a cloud of hydrogen passing all of the other planets first is a little odd. Second, chances that a comet with a pocket of oxygen that was hot didn't pass thorugh first and ignite the cloud is also a little strange. Even if hydrogen was collected in massive amounts from different sources that didn't get caught by other planets or ignite OR simply get pulled towards the sun because it just happened to fall in our orbit although the earths orbit around the sun is like a needle outside of a haystack and the chances that you would step on that needle are slim... there is oxygen in our atmosphere too. they would mix, create water, rain more and we would have a bunch of fish and other aquatic organisms.

2. "Does God exist? The human brain's complexity shows a higher intelligence behind it."

Most people don't know the parts of the brain and every bone in the human body. On the other hand, our body does. It's in this little double-helix shaped piece of protein called Deoxyribo-nucleic Acid or for short, DNA. it is basically the entire "blueprints" for the human body that is you. Things evolve to fit their needs as an organism. now if living things evolve, then their parts evolve. If the parts evolve, DNA would evolve right? so as our body becomes more complex to better fit into our environment, DNA would become more complex. My dna knows more about my body than tho whole fucking human genome project. Now our DNA is in every cell of our body. This means it is in our brains and since it is complex, it makes our brains complex. Our brains are built to do what they do and the reason they do it so good is because they were designed for it! And think, Relative size of our brains to our bodies may not seem like much but realize that the relative size of a dinosaur's brain to his body is tiny. if we had a brain relative to the dinosaurs' size our brains would be peas. That is also why we talk and they didn't.

3. "Does God exist? 'Chance' or 'natural causes' are insufficient explanations."

No they aren't insufficient you are fucking retarded. Realize that there are millions of billions of trillions of billions of millions of planets. to say that out of all of those not one is going to develop properly for life? to say that means god must have ordered cupid to shoot a brother and sister with his arrows. 9 months later... YOU CAME OUT!!! YAY!!!

4. "Does God exist? To state with certainty that there is no God, a person has to ignore the passion of an enormously vast number of people who are convinced that there is a God."

Ok it is pretty easy to ignore, thats not a good reason to assume there is a god. Also how many is "an enormously vast number of people?" Let's it is 5 billion people. there are 7 billion people on the planet which means 2 billion DON'T Believe in god like atheists, agnostics, scientologists. In fact Atheism is the third highest ranking religion in the world second only to Islam and christianity. So an "enormously vast number of people" don't believe. And Another thing! Back in the 2000-1000 B.C.'s people didn't know about bacteria and Viruses. If I didn't know about infectious organisms and parasites I think it easier to believe in a god cursing me for than a microorganism bypassing my bodies immune systems and multiplying several thousand times before my bodie's white blood cells could aid antibodies in the assault against my infection. Wouldn't you find it easier to believe in god?

5. "Does God exist? We know God exists because he pursues us. He is constantly initiating and seeking for us to come to him."

I'm not seeking god? It is true I constantly talk crap to christians, but it is because as shredder said and as I believe most atheists feel, the idea of a god pisses atheists off. I prayed from when I was 3 until a year ago at the age of 14. From 3 to 14 is 11 years. That is 4,015 days. I prayed about 15 minutes a night so for 4,015 days that is 60,225. All waisted thats 42, almost 43 days of praying... and when you pray that much and realize it was pointless it is annoying as crap as most atheists know (if you didn't here is some fuel for the fire.) Besides ever have a Jahova's Witness come to your house? Are they trying to join atheism?

6. Last but not least, "Does God exist? Unlike any other revelation of God, Jesus Christ is the clearest, most specific picture of God pursuing us."

As shredderbeam said, that is about jesus not god but to clear up, There is no hard evidence that Jesus duplicated bread and fish. In fact they disproved the whole "walking on water" thing. It was in fact stray Ice blocks that floated from more northern regions. this gave the appearance of him walking on the water. Besides there is evidence he was married to a prostitute.

Thats it for that article but Something more towards christianity. Stop posting this religious bullshit. People don't want to hear your crap and it is annoying as crap. Not Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Mormons, Scientologists, Agnostics or even Satanists try to spread this crap. Wonder why? THEY AREN'T FUCKING RETARDED!!! People won't switch to your religion at a moments notice stop trying. IT IS THE CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY THAT DOES THIS!!! JESUS WAS A HIPPIE WHO WAS BRAINWASHED AT THE AGE OF TWELVE TO THINK HE WAS THE SON OF GOD AND DIED A DEVOTED MENTALLY HANDICAPPED STONER. STOP SPREADING THIS CRAP AND PEOPLE WON'T HATE CHRISTIANS SO MUCH. THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE DO THIS IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE AN INFERIORITY COMPLEX AND THINK THAT THE OMNIPOTENT ASSHOLE ABOVE WON'T SEND THEM TO HELL AT A MOMENTS NOTICE FOR THEIR DIRTY THOUGHTS AND ACTIONS IF THEY CONVERT ONE SUICIDAL PSYCHOPATH TO THEIR RELIGION.

thats all... I'm done, I've got a headache and I have had it with this crap. Please stop posting this stuff thinking you are a good person. No hard feelings eh? sorry for the filthy language I am just agrivated. Considering I will be banned soon I bid you all a fairwell peace

-thikr

 

And I'll post this for you to read.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread27888/pg1

 

konvict111: sorry to rain on your 1 man crusade but God lives outside of time.

Thikr: your information is incorrect, please read the first 2 links. owned.

shredderbeam2: your logic is invalid.

God is neither logical or illogical. Rules only apply to us.

Remember guys, God is not bound to the laws of physical and mathematical and logical.

 

Sorry to double post but it's too much text.

 

The 2 links you provided proved nothings of gods exsistance. They didn't even disprove atheists beliefs. Throughout the first link it talks about what atheists believe. Almost all of that was false. Atheism is just a view or position of the nonexistance of god's.

No. Your logic in invalid.

You can't honestly believe that...right? Please don't have children, and if you must please don't raise them with your ?ideas?.

 

Arguing about god/no god will get you NO WHERE. Your wasting your time. No one will change their opinions.

 

It wont get us anywhere but people may change their opinions. I changed my opinion on 9/11 after seeing alot of different videos about it.

 

Only fools would believe that Christian bs excuse about 'Faith'

What is faith? Straight from the dictionary: Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence.

Only a fool would waste away his life believing in something not proven. FAITH is bs. If I said that there was a fucking ice cream god who created all ice cream, would you believe it? NO! But im not going to say to you "You obviously have no faith then"

Faith is a load of bullcrap.

 

As far as i know , only screenshots are counted as proofs , text is editable

But as X-files always ended : The truth is somewhere else.

 

Agreed. It's been going on for longer than any of us have been living. Somewhere around 2000 years.....We all share different opinions on it, and none of us can prove the other wrong. You just waste your time frustrating yourself over things that will get you nowhere.

In real life, it's a little different. You can actually get somewhere, because of:

1. Ignorance of one party.
2. Lack of available information at the time of the discussion.
3. Conscience/Human feelings.

In these next 30 paragraphs, I will explore each of these in depth. Lol, jk jk. But seriously, arguing on the internet, where there's literally unlimited information really doesn't get anyone anywhere, especially when this topic is like, the most debated topic everywhere.

 

so what if your right what if someone named "god" does exist?!
first of all
he's probly dead and the maggots have eated him to bone,
so why be a sheep and follow a group of people who worships him?
EVERYTHING IN LIFE IS ON EARTH,
theres no secret haven you go to when your deacesed,
YOU ARE YOUR OWN GOD.
plus why would you not want to be in control of you OWN life?...
by wraping yourself around a thing that isen't there, or if it was it's lonng gone now.
religons start wars people...
a perfect example of whats happening in iraq right now...

 

Ever heard of photoshop?

 

Lol? My logic is invalid?

I would be very interested to see you effectively demonstrate how this is so.

Just think: God is INFINITE. This means that God has already thought all possible thoughts, done everything possible, etc. Why would an infinite being have a need to create us?

Also, humans go through immense suffering, but he does nothing. Why not? He's benevolent, and omnipotent, but he just lets us kill each other? All in the name of "free will"?

 

Saying that shows you got the point of my post.

It think what matters is not the absolute truth, but the one you can live with in a peaceful world.

If i was in matrix, i wouldn't be following Morpheus.