To everyone against legalizing marijuana...

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To everyone against legalizing marijuana...
  1. Unread #61 - Dec 17, 2010 at 5:47 PM
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    To everyone against legalizing marijuana...

    Honestly I just think KerokeroCola is for legalization but just correcting the points you've all made. Many of the arguments that pro-legalization members make are also completely inane. "Natural"? So is Ricin. "Harmless?" About as harmless as a motorcycle, the dangers are typically the fault of the rider or other external factors. "Not addicting"? My ass, people can get as psychologically dependent on Marijuana than any opiate.

    I smoke all the time, but that's because I don't care that there certainly are harms involved with the use of it, and because I can actually manage my smoking. Never do it during the day, and never take on a responsibility while under the influence. Simple. It's for the last reason that I am against the legalization of marijuana, because I am highly pessimistic of everybody's ability to manage their marijuana use and stay safe while under the influence. It's a massive money sink for those without a stable source of income, it does affect motivation in the long-term, which can directly effect that stable source of income, and it impairs judgment which can be dangerous if you're not smoking it in a safe environment.

    I do, however, support decriminalization. Throwing someone in jail for years for smoking? Silly. Fines and misdemeanors? Perfectly reasonable if they don't have the sense to keep it in the privacy of their own home or at least keep it out of sight and out of mind when transporting it.
     
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    To everyone against legalizing marijuana...

    The only reason they wont legalize Marijuana is cause they cant tax it and its easy to grow.

    So they cant make money out of it. Tobacco is 100 times more dangerous than Marijuana imo. If tobacco is legal so should Marijuana. I dont smoke it but either way doesnt affect me too much.
     
  5. Unread #63 - Dec 21, 2010 at 10:37 AM
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    To everyone against legalizing marijuana...

    Honestly I think it should not be legalized because it is JUST PLAIN STUPID.
    I have tried it, experienced it, and decided it was for idiots. I won't touch the crap. And I don't want it legalized. I want it eliminated. Genocide for marijuana.

    To anyone who thinks it doesnt have long-term effects, I beg to differ. My brother smoked it heavily, and dealed it for 2 years. He is an absolute idiot and makes no sense anymore half of the time when he talks. His level of intelligence is on the lowest level. He got caught 2 years ago with it and a number of other illegal drugs. Drugs that get counts of manslaughter per specific amounts. Now he's in the army. Best decision for him. I think he should've just gone to jail, but I have more respect for his decision now because it did the world of good for him.
    His friend was a dealer aswell, they kinda worked together. He started with weed, and he "upgraded" into other things. It always happens. Got caught. 32 counts of manslaughter for the copious amounts of ecstasy he was busted with.. now he's done for a VERY long time.
    My miss's brother just got busted 2 days ago with drugs. He was originally just a pot-smoking hippie. But surpriiiiise, that's not all! How about heroin and cocaine! And a few nights in county jail + multiple fines and loooots of drug tests to go with that rehab. All because his desire to get high couldn't stop with weed. Now he's a failure. Just like the rest of the pot-smokers I know, who do nothing with their lives.
    My older brother? he's got a marijuana problem too. Luckily that's all he is into. He's 30 years old, and still waiting tables at restaurants. HE HAS A DEGREE IN HOTEL & RESTAURANT MANAGEMENT!
    Tell me that marijuana is not an accelerant in the breeding grounds of failures? Because I'll never believe you.

    People say naw naw naw it wont affect anything people will be fine. But if it was legalized, I would be willing to bet that at least 50% of the people who say ILL NEVER SMOKE THE STUFF would start smoking it. and the ones who already do smoke it would go off the deep end. They're the ones most adamant about wanting marijuana to be legalized because that just means it would be easier for them to get messed up day-in and day-out.
    I personally cant function on the stuff, and I know im not the only one in the world who is that way. With that being the case, why in the hell would I want to drive on the roads in a 60 thousand dollar truck that I WORK MY ASS OFF to pay for so some dumbass stoner kid can jack it up for me and ruin my day? .....And quite possibly kill my 1 year old daughter that rides around happily in my backseat. Am I supposed to let the stoned dentist work on my teeth because he claims "he focuses better when he's high"? The hell he does. Or how about the surgeon who's just about to transplant a heart after having a big joint? Sure there would be laws saying you can only do it in so many places or at such-n-such times...and not at work or when driving. But Just legalizing it will increase the chances of these things happening. Society is stupid and will always do stupid things.
    F THAT
    If it EVER hapens, I'll just buy a private island and move there. So I don't have to deal with dumbasses who think that weed should be legalized.

    There's my opinion on weed. Take it how you want it.
     
  7. Unread #64 - Dec 25, 2010 at 7:36 AM
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    To everyone against legalizing marijuana...

    You don't get busted for manslaughter for holding drugs, you sir are an idiot.
     
  9. Unread #65 - Dec 25, 2010 at 7:40 AM
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    To everyone against legalizing marijuana...

    Just like those gangs selling tobacco and alcohol!

    Why would someone go to non-licensed dealers from gangs instead of going to the closest 7-11?

    But you're saying it as if it's hard to get while it is illegal. Drugs are sold in middle schools dude, and drug dealers don't care about selling it to kids. Unlike Corporate businesses, who would have to abide by law.
     
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    To everyone against legalizing marijuana...

    Carrying ecstasy in the great country of Texas, WITH THE INTENT TO SELL is punishable to counts of manslaughter per specific amounts that you are caught with, DUMBASS. Until you live in my fucking state, don't assume that you know one GODDAMN thing more than I do about it the way things are handled in it. I had to deal with the family MELTDOWN from his stupidity..and I had to live with the humility that he bestowed on our family from his fuckup.
    sooooooo.....unless you have something useful to add, either GTFO or GFYS. whichever you prefer :)

    I suppose I should have added that he was dealing the drugs, and made it boldly obvious for idiots like yourself. But oh well, here you have it.
     
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    To everyone against legalizing marijuana...

    That was the most useless post with the most amount of words I've seen in a while. Stop playing his words and being a smartass. I agree with him.
     
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    To everyone against legalizing marijuana...

    Weed isnt even a drug. Theres NOTHING wrong with it and there are an infinite amount of legal substances that do far more harm.

    It's very easy to come up with reasons why weed should not be illegal. Imagine if alchohol was illegal, what reason's could you think that it shouldnt be illegal? Almost none.
     
  17. Unread #69 - Dec 25, 2010 at 5:32 PM
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    To everyone against legalizing marijuana...

    ah, you must be one of the poor stoners who smokes this nasty shit, and think it's God's gift to earth(a typical useless stoner thought on the matter)
    Maybe one day when you grow up, you'll realize how much more fruitful your life is without the stuff, and how useless you were as a human being when you centered your life around having enough money to get high in the evenings.
    I suppose I'm biased because ive been there done that and didn't get the trophy because the trophy's F'n lame. I've seen every one of my friends that DID get involved with it and DIDN'T want to dump the habit turn into nobodys.
    And my thoughts on the alcohol concept of yours? there are a lot of adults who do not drink to get drunk, but rather to enjoy a football game or to celebrate a promotion, or to just enjoy themselves after a long hard day's work, or the enjoy spoiling themselves to the taste of their favorite beer. Some drink to get drunk...but VASTLY less people drink for that reason.
    What does anyone and everyone smoke weed for? TO GET HIGH. there is no way around that. Any way you look at it, you're trying to get high. Very few people have any other motive to use marijuana. Very very few.
     
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    To everyone against legalizing marijuana...

    What lol.. ofcourse people will buy it haha.
    1.) It'll be cheaper.
    2.) You honestly think people aren't making massive amounts of cash by selling cheaper cigarettes and alcohol? Ofcourse they are. Especially by groups who can't afford/obtain the product.
     
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    To everyone against legalizing marijuana...

    I dont care about your reason's for doing the drugs. Facts are facts, and alchohol is more dangerous than marijuana. Period.

    On the other hand there is something that I have noticed. IMO it is not the weed that makes the person (relaxed and more chill, "IDC" attitude), but rather the personality of the person that leads them to smoking weed.

    Im only 18 and when I first smoked weed, infact the first 6 months I smoked weed I didn't care for it and didn't know why people cared about smoking it so much. Your impression of the drug changes the more you use it. I view it very similarly to alchohol now. It isnt a drug you take to get fucked up. Just like alchohol, I will take smoke/drink it socially or just for a nice buzz.
     
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    To everyone against legalizing marijuana...

    Link the court case and laws or you're simply spouting nonsense like a... how did you put it? "DUMBASS"
     
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    To everyone against legalizing marijuana...

    There won't be any standards to pot on the street; there won't be a race to higher quality because of competition; there is still a big risk with cutting.

    Also I'm willing to bet anyone who currently grows it would attempt to get licenses to do it legally and sell it to companies to get more significant profit.

    And buying alcohol by non-reputable companies and underhanded deals is pretty damn dangerous; ethanol is not the easiest thing to extract, and it isn't always worth it.
     
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    To everyone against legalizing marijuana...

    I'm not linking a court case to anyone I personally know, just for some half-wit like yourself. I don't think any of my family or their friends needs any more humiliation than what they've already had to deal with, so once again- GFYS. As for the state law, look it up. With the right keywords, it's the first thing that pops up... Or are you just that lazy(perhaps the weed?) and you are incapable of doing it by yourself?
     
  29. Unread #75 - Dec 27, 2010 at 12:03 AM
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    He's true, when I smoke I don't get the munchies. I might get a bit more hungry though, sometimes. Besides tacos, I eat HEALTHY while sober and stoned. Marijuana doesn't deserve to be illegal, it really doesn't. I've met quite a few people who you'd be amazed smoke it, and I'm only 14. My grandma, etc. Half the reason I smoke it is because of the benefits I get out of it, like being able to sleep and reducing migraines. I'm actually quite gifted, until a month ago I smoked weed everyday, sometimes all day, and believe it or not it hasn't affected my brain at all. I now only smoke it once a week of so though, cause I don't have a job. When I'm drunk, I can't walk, I can't think, I'm just a mess. when I'm stoned I'm more relaxed and chilled, kinder, and overall a better person.

    Legalize it, don't criticize it
    Doctors smoke it, lawyers smoke it
    even my dog tokes it

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  31. Unread #76 - Dec 29, 2010 at 3:13 PM
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    To everyone against legalizing marijuana...

    I swear some of the "arguments" against weed are just plain stupid and ignorant. Weed didn't cause what that moron said about his brother being a dealer for X and getting caught for manslaughter? (wtf lol) Thats was his own doing. If he failed to control himself don't blame the weed. Weed isn't something that instantly makes you stupid, it may make you slow when your high but that's it.

    I admit I'm for legalization, I smoke every day at least a G a day. Sometimes me and my friends smoke weed more than usual (like a few blunts) to celebrate or enjoy something on the weekends. We all have jobs, around 18, and all smoke everyday. Its self control that's the issue with most. I actually tried weed in 8th grade, just took like 3 hits off a kush joint. To my surprise I notice it helped me sleep (I have insomnia), made me more easy going not lazy but more happy (Im talking about after not during my high;back then I was more of an angry person lol), and that's about it. During my high I did notice it may get one lazy and I actually didn't really get the munchies. After that I didn't smoke til the end of ninth grade....I began smoking almost everyday but still kept my grades up til graduating. I took several AP classes (AP Calc, AP Chem, Ap Econ, and for a semester AP Art History). I passed with solid B's; which to me is great since I smoked often, drank heavily on weekends with friends but stopped halfway through the year ( My dumbass tried going to school hung over...almost threw up in class but held it then ditched the rest of the day).

    My teachers KNEW I smoked. Some even poked fun at me since I use to sleep sometimes in class since I was ahead in some of the work most of the time. One time my teacher did ask if I was high one day because my eyes were red and puffy, also I was sleepy; I laughed because I wasnt high that day, I was just tired from the Sunday before.

    The coolest teacher was my Art teacher in Sophomore year. He was a pothead. Really, he had a small room I caught him hitting a joint. He immediately put on his shades, and asked if I wanted some chips (his room was ful of chips and water bottles he sometimes gave out) then smiled. I was surprised and amazed...throughout the year he was usually high. He was a great at drawing. I actually did once try hitting a small joint in class since I was next to the window. By the time I finished he was walking around checking our drawing as usual. When he got to me he paused, and said that's quite pleasant smell. Then looked at my drawing. I was shi**ing bricks thinking he was going to report me.

    Back to topic: Weed is available nearly everywhere. I was capable of obtaining weed in middle school easily. When high school came, the issue wasn't obtaining it or finding a good price; it was finding a dependent dealer that would hook it up. Now I know of various dealers around my city, and plenty more around. It easy obtaining weed.

    I do agree it should be regulated and taxed but nothing absurd. Weeds biggest problem is probably the munchies. People's biggest problem is self control.

    Me and my friends spend a total of 100 dollars a month for a bit more than an ounce of kush. That's smoked between 5-6 people everyday. Thats usually 20-30 bucks out of my pocket a month. Sometimes if we feel like smoking something new and better we pay for medical kush. Weed won't make you spend a lot if you actually check how much you can get it for a months or weeks supply. Most dealers I know are friendly and negotiable.

    Weed can help ease any tensions among a group and can help improve or create friendship.
     
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    To everyone against legalizing marijuana...

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    To everyone against legalizing marijuana...

    Yo man. Fuck the system. Do what you want. Smoke pot and fuck everyone else in the ass. Be free. Don't be afraid of the system, it's dependence on you exceeds yours for it.
     
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    To everyone against legalizing marijuana...

    How is this relevant to the thread?
     
  39. Unread #80 - Dec 30, 2010 at 2:15 PM
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    To everyone against legalizing marijuana...

    It seems completely relevant to me. This thread's title is "...legalizing marijuana", obviously with reference to statutes and the government supporting them. I vouch that persons comment x 1,000,000. The government needs you more then you need it.
     
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