Requesting a TwC on Jakecantcw

http://www.sythe.org/members/339929-jakecantcw.html

Practically, I was requested to MM a trade by my skype contact 'Justin' to MM a 18M for 500K 07gp trade. I told them to post form, and Jake backed out, saying a supposed mod told him to cancel the trade, as Justin was a suspicious member (having only 2 posts on sythe.org) and I told him he couldn't be scammed trading gold for gold if I MM, he said he needed srs mm, because Justin was maybe not legit (which already makes no sense). Then I asked if I could see the gold (I had this feeling he doesn't have it). He sent me a file, and when I told him I don't accept such, he told me I'm an unserious MM once more, and blocked me. Also, no mod would tell this guy that he should cancel trade, because of other member in a gold-for-gold trade, and frankly, I don't want to sound like a stuck up faggot, but I have MM'd about 2B value so far, and I don't see myself as an MM too unserious to MM a $6 trade, lol...

 

He was told by a reputable member, not a mod, that if they were in his position they wouldn't trust you (I asdume he asked for an opinion).

This is why he cancelled the trade.

Do you have anything further to add?

 

Roary, just one question:

So, let me tell you the story, according to what Elena has told me, and what I had understood here:

1) They begin arranging a trade, Gil asks Elena to trade.
2) Justin (supposedly for some reason) rejects.
3) Then he asks me to MM, I get added.
4) Gil asks Elena whether he should trade, and Elena tells him that if he doesn't feel comfortable enough, he shouldn't trade (because supposedly he was scared of being set up by Justin).
5) After getting a confirmation PM from me, seeing my ~100 Vouches, 15 pages of MM'ing with about ~2B MM'd, he gets this huge urge, that he must be set up, and we will scam together, and I will scam $5, after my MM thread even shows me being traded 1B in 2 trades.
6) He cancels the trade, I ask him to show me gold, he sends me this most weird named supposedly .png file, which I deny to accept.
7) Ask to see ingame instead
8) I get called an unserious MM and blocked.

He felt he was being set up, and believed (after PM confirmation) that I will scam him for $5 with that Justin kid...?

I mean fuck me, but this is ridiclious. In my point of view, however I look at it. That is all nonetheless.





PS before I froget, Justin is a vader (LAHFA):

userid username ipaddress hashed ip
374767 LAHFA xxx.xxx.xxx.81 18cf2259
364616 Justin 12 xxx.xxx.xxx.195 93f59ad6
374767 LAHFA xxx.xxx.xxx.195 93f59ad6
374767 LAHFA xxx.xxx.xxx.51 4f14b4b5

 

It was a member other than Elena who told Jake? not to trade.

and @ point 6:

I think he didnt want to trade with you so didnt see point of meeting ingame. Maybe didn't want to be reported etc etc.

 

Reported for what?
Also:
Elena told me she told Jake not to trade if he felt uncomrotable:

[23:12:19] Elena Sythe: Hi Daniel / kfjjjdst, I'd like to add you as a contact. Elena Sythe
[23:13:30] Daniel / kfjjjdst: Daniel / kfjjjdst has shared contact details with Elena Sythe.
[23:15:22] Daniel / kfjjjdst: Hey
[23:15:37] Elena Sythe: hey just wanted to let you now
[23:15:42] Elena Sythe: tha tthe guy you requested a TWC
[23:15:45] Elena Sythe: doesn't deserve one.
[23:15:49] Daniel / kfjjjdst: howso?
[23:15:55] Elena Sythe: Basically
[23:15:58] Elena Sythe: He asked me to mm for him
[23:16:00] Elena Sythe: and the guy
[23:16:05] Elena Sythe: whom he was trading with
[23:16:07] Elena Sythe: refused to use me.
[23:16:14] Elena Sythe: So he thought he was getting set up for a scsam
[23:16:23] Elena Sythe: and he asked me what he should do.
[23:16:31] Elena Sythe: and I said don't trade if you don't feel comfortable
[23:17:51] Daniel / kfjjjdst: He still got a PM from me and saw my MM thread, where he could see I MM'd ~2B in value; Would it make sense that he is getting set up a scam over a $5 value trade, with the co-operation of a member who has MM'd about $650 value at least so far? I mean... makes no sense to me
[23:18:18] Elena Sythe: I am just telling you.
[23:18:21] Elena Sythe: I mmed for him this morning
[23:18:24] Elena Sythe: everything went smooth.
[23:18:44] Elena Sythe: and your guy REFUSED to use me and then goes to someone with less vouches no offense to you but that could come off as weird.
[23:20:06] Daniel / kfjjjdst: [22:37:39] Justin: hey
[22:37:42] Justin: can u mm?
[22:37:48] Daniel / kfjjjdst: heya
[22:37:49] Daniel / kfjjjdst: sure
[22:38:05] Justin: k
[22:38:11] *** Justin created a group conversation with gill_hihi.
Show group conversation ***

etcetc from my point of view, it still seems unclear as to the guy's reaction. dw I take no offense, he probably asked me, cause I have MM'd for him in the past, I suppose, no clue. but yeah
[23:20:30] Daniel / kfjjjdst: and the sole fact that you have MM'd for him doesn't practically prove the point of him being reliable or not, if you ask me.
[23:21:29] Elena Sythe: I am not saying that.
[23:21:34] Elena Sythe: But basically that's saying
[23:21:39] Elena Sythe: I can could request one on the other guy
[23:21:43] Elena Sythe: for refusing to use me?
[23:21:49] Elena Sythe: People have the right to refuse a mm
[23:21:51] Elena Sythe: just not an omm.
[23:22:11] Daniel / kfjjjdst: If you read the reasoning behind it all, that's the reason I requested the TwC.
[23:22:18] Daniel / kfjjjdst: I don't request only because people deny to use me.
[23:22:30] Elena Sythe: But are you not understand
[23:22:34] Elena Sythe: understanding
[23:22:35] Elena Sythe: that the reason
[23:22:41] Elena Sythe: he said those things is because i told him
[23:22:45] Elena Sythe: if you dont feel comfortable
[23:22:46] Elena Sythe: don't trade
[23:22:56] Elena Sythe: he said it felt like a scam to him
[23:22:58] Elena Sythe: so i said
[23:23:00] Elena Sythe: don't trade
[23:24:14] Elena Sythe: You do what you want. I just wanted to give you some insight
[23:24:14] Elena Sythe: is all.
[23:26:59] Elena Sythe: Also my other skype was hacked
[23:27:01] Elena Sythe: would recommend
[23:27:03] Elena Sythe: deleting it.
[23:27:12] Daniel / kfjjjdst: Aight.

 

To jagex for RWT, he maybe didn't understand why you wanted proof if you weren't trading. Just trying to picture it from his POV, too.

Well someone other than Elena also told him not to.
Both these users telling him not to probably just freaked him out?

 

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