Should abortion be legal?

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Should abortion be legal?
  1. Unread #41 - Dec 2, 2011 at 8:00 PM
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    Should abortion be legal?

    If you're saying it depends, it means your open to the chance of it being acceptable in some cases, correct?

    This contradicts this point you made: "youre murdering your baby, a living human life". It's still murder, whether you had unprotected sex to purposely have a baby to purposely abort, or had been raped and then wanted to abort because you were 15. I'll not even get into the issue of associating a baby with a normal human, but, if you're going to take this standpoint you are contradicting yourself by allowing any person abort.
     
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    Should abortion be legal?

    I think it should be legal. Every woman and man should have the choice of keeping the kid or not. Now it should only be legal up to a certain point of the pregnancy. Don't know when it is technically alive(more than just cells and stuff). But it would have to be before that, none of the late term stuff. That is murder imo.

    For the guy who said the emotion needs to be taken out of it and just think logically, wouldn't it be great if people could do that and it not affect them? That is impossible to do and I am willing to bet that most of them think about what could've been. I couldn't handle the fact that I killed my potential kid. I know they aren't living and whatever else at the early stages of pregnancy, but it would still kill a piece of me to know I prevented my potential kid from living. It would haunt me for the rest of my life. So would you call me someone who is too emotional?

    So you're not having sex until you want a kid? Or are you just fine with having sex and potentially having a kid?
     
  5. Unread #43 - Dec 6, 2011 at 7:41 PM
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    Should abortion be legal?

    no i do not think it should be legal.
     
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    Should abortion be legal?

    IMO.. Abortion shoud be legal in some aspects but not in totality.

    yes! some are right to say that abortion should be legal in cases of rape ( carrying of an unwanted child) and in some cases complications on the life of both the mother and the child.

    But in cases of abortion just for the sake of self preservation and simple sexual misendemors is purely out of the questions.

    In general abortion should not be of a selfish act rather it must be the preservation of life itself.


    but imagine you being the one that got aborted???

    Oh welll. hahahahaha
     
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    Should abortion be legal?

    I prefer to keep my opinion to my self, but i am firmly AGAINST late term abortions. When a fetus has its brain sucked out of its head in order to perform the abortion. I'm extremely glad they are against the law.
     
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    Should abortion be legal?

    i agree with you 1000000% i understand everyone has their own reason and their own choices but i agree late terms are wrong in my opinion
     
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    Should abortion be legal?

    So you must then concede that abortion is not the killing of a human being, for such would be immoral regardless of the nature of his/her conception?

    Given the above, why not?

    Irrelevant.
     
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    Should abortion be legal?

    I think so, just because in the next decade or so, overpopulation will be a big problem. Why not start taking care of it now?
     
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    Should abortion be legal?

    I believe that a women has the right to decide whether she is READY OR NOT to take care of a child for the rest of her life.
    If she is young and inexperienced, the child doesn't stand a chance.
    The liberals will say "Life starts at conception" when really life starts when the baby comes out and takes its first real breath.
     
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    Should abortion be legal?

    So you would have no problem killing a baby a week before the due date? I don't see how there is a difference between that and when it takes a breath. It is still a baby.
     
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    Should abortion be legal?

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  23. Unread #52 - Dec 8, 2011 at 6:34 AM
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    Should abortion be legal?

    Anti-abortion proponents will simply say she can put the child up for adoption. This ultimately evades the purpose of the abortion debate as it presupposes that she doesn't abort. No one has a problem with that stance.

    Life does start at conception, it's been scientifically proven. A sentient life form however does not. In all honesty, so what if life starts at conception? We have no problem in purging life on it's own.

    It's not my question to answer, but, there is a big difference. First off, there is an unwanted organism growing inside someones stomach, as opposed to an (unwanted) organism outside of someones stomach. Parasites can be located internal and external of the body. No one cares about parasites under the kitchen bench, but everyone frantically tries to rid themselves of parasites inside or on them, a baby can be regarded as similar to a parasite.

    Why only rape victims?
    More importantly, why not others?
     
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    Should abortion be legal?

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    What? Nobody is advocating aborting a child a week before it's due date. I think window is about 6 months (varies from state to state).
    Liberals are pro choice. I think you mean "Libertarians". I don't understand why other people should have the right to regulate your reproductive rights (what a mouthful!). If you don't want to give birth, abort dat sucka



    How many people has our military killed? If you are pro-life, you should unequivocally oppose killing, no matter the victim.
     
  27. Unread #54 - Dec 8, 2011 at 2:37 PM
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    Should abortion be legal?

    A lady I know had an ultrasound 5 weeks in and they were able to hear the heartbeat. Some babies develop sooner than others.

    So again I ask - if we judge death as being when the heart stops beating why don't we simply state a baby's alive when the heart begins to beat? Because really, that's where absolutely all the arguments reside. There's no clear definition of when a baby is "alive".
     
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    Should abortion be legal?

    Consciousness seems to develop at 24-28 weeks - http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=when-does-consciousness-arise

    This is in my opinion the best indicator of whether the baby should be deemed 'alive' or not. I can understand your argument about life/death pertaining to the functioning of the heart, but, your juxtaposition ignores other factors. Namely, an adult human is a sentient being, and, when their heart stops it also indicates that their consciousness has ceased. They are no longer aware. A baby however, yes, their heart is beating, but, they are not self-aware.

    However, this is a side-step, even if we presume the baby to be alive at 5 weeks, so what? In the womans eyes, there could be a tape worm, she just wants it to be gone. It is her body, and it is her axiomatic right to choose, why do we grant the baby the preponderance if you like, of rights and nullify the accepted notion that people have the right of self-ownership.
     
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    Should abortion be legal?

    I was responding to him saying life doesn't start till the baby takes a breath so if you had an abortion a week before you were due it wouldn't be killing according to the person a quoted. When it come to a baby I think there is no difference between a week before birth and right after birth. It is a fully mature baby either way. Also I wouldn't consider a baby a parasite at all. Only in the way it is inside someone and maybe they don't want it. maybe thats all your trying to say?

    I was responding to him saying life doesn't start till the baby takes a breath so if you had an abortion a week before you were due it wouldn't be killing according to the person a quoted.
     
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    Should abortion be legal?

    Life does start at conception though. Life as you know it may not start till one draws breath (still debatable) but scientifically, it is a fact that at conception, you have life.
    There may be no anatomical difference, but, the baby is in 2 completely different environments, during pregnancy, at any stage the baby acts as a parasite (see below), it is inside the mothers body. If a tree was growing in your body, you'd have it removed, much like some mothers want there baby removed. It's an unwanted object growing in their stomach. This is much different from when the baby is outside of their body. The baby is now a separate entity from the mother.

    It can be considered a parasite IMO.

    The baby drains the mother's resources and nutrients.
    The baby doesn't allow the mother to partake in activities that she would otherwise normally be able to partake in.
    The baby causes pain to the mother.
    The baby is housed inside the mother.

    What does a parasite do? A parasite leeches off the nutrients of its host. A parasite does cause pain to some, though, many are inadvertently aware of the cause. A parasite is generally housed within or on the surface of it's host (ticks, tape worms). A parasite can also infect and cause diseases. While a baby does not, pregnancy can kill a mother, arguably far worse than some diseases.
     
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    Should abortion be legal?

    Think people, if you are a mother, you should at least have that option, i'am not against, its your son, your responsability, tell me what kind of life the kid would have if the mom were a teen? or even the parents can't afford to have a child, or the child was mistake, shouldn't the parenst have at least that opinion guys? Because its not you that going creat and raise the child, that should be hard to decide.
     
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    Should abortion be legal?

    *Conservatives will say
     
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    Should abortion be legal?

    I think life starts when there is a heart beat. Once again I was trying to make a point to the person I quoted.
    I understand that. I'm not trying to make an argument out of this lol. I know it is in two different environments. It is completely different. I support making abortion legal. What I don't support is anything later than when the heart starts beating.I disagreed with the person I quoted because they said life starts when the baby takes a breath so with that logic having an abortion a week into pregnancy and a week before would be the same thing.
    I can't argue with that. When looking at it with straight facts and no emotion then yes it is a parasite. I still wouldn't call it one mainly because it is human like me and you and to me there is an emotional part that can't be stated as facts.
     
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