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You still had access to the account and were not responding to me when I asked why you were killing Callisto.

If we look at the screenshots below, we can see that I screenshotted the hi-scores and questioned what you were doing on the 5th July. I did not kick you off of the account at this point. Instead, I chose to discuss with you and seek advice from @Apollo who advised I open a scam report, which I did on the 7th.
At the tail end of the 7th July, at roughly 11:30PM GMT, I removed your access to the account, following Apollo's recommendation and your repeated farming of Callisto, while ignoring my questions. I had enough by this point.
To further prove that you were the one still logged in and farming Callisto / had access to the account we can see in screenshots 3 and 4, you are desperately trying to 'prove' that you were still servicing the account. You even show me the bank value claiming 137m was the correct amount. I thought you didn't have access? Everything is here, dated and easily provable.
You just lie, over and over and over again. This circus needs to stop. You are not an intelligent person and keep returning with your GPT circular logic responses. You are still showing me screenshots from my own account on the 7th July at 22:28, what do you mean you didn't have access? Complete dishonesty from you at every single step of the service, this report and you will likely continue this childish behavior. Have some shame.
My final screenshots are where I'm discussing with Apollo, who advises me to change password. Which I did, shortly after opening the report.

EDIT: For any moderators reading this, I'm happy to provide a .html log of my entire discord chat with Glacier and Apollo if necessary. And if that isn't enough, I can provide access via either Parsec or discord screen share for you to check for yourselves.

EDIT 2: I'm not the one here providing cropped screenshots and changing my story every five minutes.

 

The claimant is now alleging that I still had access to the account. That is incorrect. After July 8, I was no longer able to access the account. Every login attempt resulted in a "Try Again" which is consistent with losing access after the password was changed. If I no longer had access, I could not have continued killing Callisto. The claimant also previously sent me a hiscores screenshot showing 5,791 Callisto KC. Any kills beyond that point would have occurred after I had already lost access.

 

Based on the verified 5,791 Callisto KC (which the claimant himself previously confirmed by sending the hiscores screenshot), what would be the estimated value or payment for that amount of work if it was completed in a clan?

Could you also confirm what payment I am entitled to for the work I completed before I lost access to the account? I would appreciate a clear calculation based on the verified KC and the agreed terms, rather than assumptions about later kills.

 

@Techie has already confirmed the KC, as has the MM. I don't think it's up for debate.

How about we talk about what you are 'entitled' to after you recompense me?

Edit: Nobody is saying you had access after the 8th. You lost access on the 7th at 11:30PM GMT. I changed the password.

Callisto KC was going up until around 5PM on the 7th.

Everyone has already saw this data. It's publicly available information. The KC is 6428. You did over 600 Callisto on those final two days of account access.

 

You are now claiming the KC reached 6,428 before I lost access. If that is true, please provide objective evidence (such as RuneLite loot tracker, account logs, or another verifiable record) showing when those additional 637 kills were completed.
I no longer had access once the password was changed, and after that my login attempts failed. I am asking that any calculation be based on verifiable evidence rather than assumptions.
I also ask the moderator to clarify what payment is due for the work that is actually supported by the evidence.

 

Don't worry, the moderators have all the evidence. I don't need to show it to you. Plus, you already know you did it. Again - have some shame.

 

I am currently trying to locate my RuneLite screenshots to see if there are any that show whether I was killing Callisto in a team rather than solo. If I find any relevant screenshots, I will submit them as evidence as soon as possible. I appreciate your patience.

 

I found RuneLite screenshots from my time on the account. These screenshots show me participating in a team/mass Callisto kill rather than a solo kill. This supports my statement that I was completing Callisto as part of a team.
redacted - poor censoring, in deleted for staff

 

Can you prove that every kill was in a clan? In your own words, we can't make assumptions here.
This also does verify that you were clearly not doing Callisto for slayer and were gold farming from my account, disproving your previous statements and further muddying the waters here. The service was not being done and Callisto was being prioritized.

Group loot would have you earning 25% of the expected reward as per the wiki -

"The listed quantities are for soloing Callisto. In group encounters, Callisto's drops, including uniques, will be split proportionally based on damage done. Up to 10 players may obtain drops per kill in this manner, and each of the top 10 players will receive at least 25% of the solo loot quantity."

The average solo Callisto kill is worth 146,329.52.

 

Everyone already knows whether the Callisto kills were for the Slayer task or for gold farming.
I have provided RuneLite screenshots showing that I was participating in team/mass Callisto. While I cannot prove every individual kill was in a clan, but i can check more Runelite Screenshots,there is also no evidence that every kill was solo. My screenshots support that team Callisto was the method I was using. Therefore, I do not believe it is appropriate to assume all kills were solo or to calculate them using the solo average.
Average value per kill in a mass Callisto clan is approximately 33K GP.
am willing to accept the calculation based on an average of 33K GP per Callisto KC if that is considered the appropriate value for mass clan kills. However, I also ask that my completed 44% of the agreed service be compensated. It is undisputed that I completed 44% of the work, and I was willing to continue, but the service was not completed because the account was taken back. I therefore respectfully request payment for the work I completed.

6428kc x 33K = 212.1M

 

Correct I’m holding the funds of the service which is 350$ received in crypto

 

So here is a breakdown of what I am still owed in GP for the clarity of all parties involved: Monetary value lost in wasted time in bonds (12 bonds) I've essentially ended up paying for Glacier to have the ability to farm gold efficiently with my account due to it's stats instead of him having to pay for bonds on his own gold farming accounts.
I also consider the fact he wasted significant amounts of time not actually working on the assigned task (both with insufficient time and effort when actually skilling, insufficient time spent doing achievement diary tasks as there are still easy, medium and hard diary tasks outstanding let alone the elite ones, and the significant time spent accruing Callisto KC) as another reason to be compensated for the expense of my bonds.
I find the fact that there are still numerous outstanding easy, medium and hard diaries outstanding particularly egregious as there's no good excuse for these to have not been completed as the account is capable of completing them which I find indicates a lack of interest in ever using the account to complete the intended task as they're the first things that should have been done as they're direct criteria for fulfilling the end goal.
(Bond price on the 05th Jan 26 in GP 15,230,891) (15,230,891 x 12 = 182,770,692 GP)
Outstanding amount of stolen GP that was initially provided at the start of the job to be paid back which includes the costs calculated in good faith using high gp cost, efficient skilling methods in the revised and more in depth skilling report (which the moderation team has): 72,863,116 GP Total still owed - 72,863,116 + 182,770,692 = 255,633,808 GP (Not including compensation for Callisto KC loot, damages to the account reputation in relation to now publicly looking like a gold farming account as well as real world trading as the moderation team would be more experienced at judging the cost of such damages than myself)

I have also embedded two screenshots below, where Glacier was still claiming to be servicing the account. Notably, he says that if I think he's a scammer - I don't have to pay him.
That is all well and good, but I'd also argue that it makes no sense for him to be paid anything in the first place.
If I use the example of my paying someone to paint my living room walls, they paint a singular wall and then completely destroy another, breaking into the kitchen - I would not pay them a penny because of the damages they have caused. It would be irrelevant that they have painted a singular wall at this point. I believe the intentions shown by Glacier and the damages caused here would be very similar to this hypothetical real life scenario. Surely this is a fair way of thinking of things? Would you pay someone after malpractice and bad intent, regardless of how much of the initial agreement they think that they have contributed towards.

@Moderation - I will report my own post and attach a massive amount of evidence supporting my figures above. I don't believe I am being unfair here. If anything, I am repeatedly showing lenience, offering good faith and trying to come to a fair settlement despite my being scammed, my account having a gold farming mark associated with it and the repeated circus we are all being led on by Glacier. This evidence includes videos, excel sheets of detailed calculations, videos of the account, videos of Glacier making some untrue statements about moderation and Apollo regarding the amount owed.

This will personally be my final stance on the matter and I will not be publicly posting any more information since there is nothing more to support.
If the moderation team determines that he deserves some form of compensation, I will begrudgingly do so despite the fact that I believe it's clear the damages done to the account outweigh the value of any initial honest work done here, but I will not be doing so until he has returned all of the value that he owes me.

Edit - He didn't complete the job and using the evidence i provided privately to the moderation team, there wasn't even a single day where he met the XP required per day to complete the job. This, in my opinion shows that a conscious effort was never being made. (Glacier required 564,596 XP per day to complete just the skilling component of the job.) This wasn't even close to being met. With the average XP earned per day being 246,318 XP. When we remove the combat XP gained from Callisto, the average then drops to 177174 valid XP towards the job. It's also worth mentioning that none of the truly time consuming skills were attempted and that the buyable also had barely been touched.

Screenshots below: (These aren't new, they are in the OP) - Glacier saying I don't have to pay him if he's scamming (he is scamming me)
Date of screenshot 1 message : 07/07/2026 22:33.
Date of screenshot 2 message : 05/07/2026 20:53.

 

With respect, I don't see how I could realistically provide a screenshot for every individual Callisto kill. RuneLite does not automatically create a screenshot proving whether each specific kill was solo or in a group. What I can provide are the screenshots and evidence I do have, which show that I was participating in team/mass Callisto.
If the standard is proof for every single kill, I don't believe that is realistically possible. Likewise, there is no evidence showing that every single kill was completed solo. I therefore ask that the available evidence be weighed reasonably rather than requiring proof of each individual kill.

How am I supposed to provide a screenshot for every individual Callisto kill? RuneLite does not record every single kill in that way. I have already provided the screenshots that I do have, which show me participating in team/mass Callisto.
I also have a question: on what evidence did you conclude that these kills were completed solo? I have not seen evidence proving that every kill was solo. If there is evidence supporting that conclusion, I would appreciate the opportunity to review it. Otherwise, I respectfully ask that the calculation not be based solely on the assumption that all kills were solo.

 

I don't understand why I would be expected to reimburse the full bond cost for the period in which I was actively working on the account. It is undisputed that 44% of the service was completed. If the Callisto loot belongs to the account owner and I compensate for that separately, then on what basis should I also be responsible for reimbursing the full cost of the bonds used during the same period? I respectfully ask the moderator to clarify whether both claims are appropriate or whether this would result in double compensation for the same timeframe.

 

Some additional maths and data for moderation and the public to look into for context. (For moderation, I will report this post, and attach a google sheets link with the full data available. It will be available on Sheet 2, titled - 'XP Day Breakdown'. I've included the maths in the cells so that you can understand how I came to these conclusions yourselves.)

Now, if we look below at the image - we can see that of the 180 bond days provided, Glacier has played for 98 of them (earning XP on 98 days)
Averaging the valid XP of those 98 days played (not the entire 180) we can see he didn't even come close to the required XP per day (564,596) required to simply meet the XP component of the job.
If we then average this over the 180 day period, we find this goes down to an average of 177,174xp.
Furthermore, when you account for the total amount of XP earned every day across the 98 days of play time, his playtime only reflected 78.39 days and this total even includes XP gained on skills that don't contribute to the job which would actually make this number significantly lower (however I'm unable to get reports on day by day breakdowns of individual skills so totals have to be considered over the full length of the job)
We can also find just how many days he was killing Callisto, see image 2 below. I count 22 days.
So of the 98 days (of which only 78 days worth of XP was earned) he chose to play and fail to meet XP requirements, 22 of these days were spent killing a goldfarming bear in the wilderness. 78-22 = 56 days.
This is not even close to the 180 days of bond time provided.
As is now VERY apparent from looking at the numbers, a valid attempt was not made at completing the job at hand, with little total playtime and a fraction of the required XP earned on these days.
XP has only gained in fast, cheap and efficient skills, the slow burn skills have not been attempted. Do we value Firemaking and Fletching XP the same way we would value Runecrafting XP or Slayer?
Not only were the XP milestones not met, significant achievements such as Barbarian Assault, Chompy Kills, Kalphite Queen kills and other time consuming tasks have not even been started. (As displayed in the video I have sent over to moderation)
Again - if this were a matter of an honest failing to complete the job, I'd be happy to pay for the work done. An honest attempt was not made here.
Instead, as a community we can see that it was a very dishonest one which ended up in goldfarming on my account, on my membership time, risking my account and permanently staining the reputation.
I hope all of these actual facts and figures are useful in reaching a fair and comprehensive resolution for seeking compensation on the theft, damages caused, callisto loot and membership time wasted.
I also want to point out that I mean no ill intent towards Glacier, even after the way he has treated both myself and the community. I simply don't think it makes any sense for myself or the middleman to be rewarding this messy, lackluster, greedy scamming attempt with any form of monetary compensation. He has left things in a mess and is trying to worm his way out of taking any meaningful responsibility for his own actions. Why should I be funding 56 days of playtime that doesn't meet the job requirement and 22 days of goldfarming?

 

I respectfully disagree with the conclusions being drawn from these calculations.
The spreadsheets and XP averages do not prove that I was not working on the account, nor do they prove that every Callisto kill was solo gold farming. They are assumptions, not direct evidence.
It is already acknowledged that 44% of the service was completed. Therefore, there was clearly legitimate work performed on the account. The remaining dispute is about Callisto, not whether work was done.
I have provided the RuneLite screenshots that I have, and they clearly show me participating in team/mass Callisto. RuneLite does not automatically save a screenshot for every individual kill, so it is impossible for me to provide evidence for each of the 6,428 kills. Likewise, there is no evidence proving that every one of those kills was completed solo.
If compensation is to be calculated based on solo Callisto averages, then there should first be evidence that the kills were actually solo. Without that evidence, using solo averages is only an assumption.
Finally, I do not believe it is fair to claim both the full bond cost and the full value of the alleged Callisto loot for the same period. If the Callisto loot is being claimed separately, then the same membership period should not also be charged in full, as this risks double compensation.
I remain willing to resolve this dispute fairly. I have already accepted the 6,428 KC figure, I am willing to compensate based on a reasonable team/mass Callisto calculation, and I ask that my completed work also be fairly compensated based on the 44% of the service that both parties acknowledge was completed

 

are you retarded? you,ve shown like 2 kill in mass screenshots while there is a 6428 kc

if you shown atleast 50 screenshots it would be more believable but 2 kills? lmao