Remember Remember The 5th Of November

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Remember Remember The 5th Of November
  1. Unread #1 - Nov 5, 2011 at 2:55 AM
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    ^ V For Vendetta Little Song




    ^ Meaning Of 5th Of November

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes_Night

    ^ Info About 5th Of November

    Guy Fawkes Night, also known as Guy Fawkes Day and Bonfire Night, is an annual commemoration observed on 5 November, primarily in Great Britain. Its history begins with the events of 5 November 1605, when Guy Fawkes, a member of the Gunpowder Plot, was arrested while guarding explosives the plotters had placed beneath the House of Lords. Celebrating the fact that King James I had survived the attempt on his life, people lit bonfires around London, and months later the introduction of the Observance of 5th November Act enforced an annual public day of thanksgiving for the plot's failure.
    Within a few decades Gunpowder Treason Day, as it was known, became the predominant English state commemoration, but as it carried strong religious overtones it also became a focus for anti-Catholic sentiment. Puritans delivered sermons regarding the perceived dangers of popery, while during increasingly raucous celebrations common folk burnt effigies of popular hate-figures, such as the pope. Towards the end of the 18th century reports appear of children begging for money with effigies of Guy Fawkes and 5 November gradually became known as Guy Fawkes Day. Towns such as Lewes and Guildford were in the 19th century scenes of increasingly violent class-based confrontations, fostering traditions those towns celebrate still, albeit peaceably. In the 1850s changing attitudes eventually resulted in the toning down of much of the day's anti-Catholic rhetoric, and in 1859 the original 1606 legislation was repealed. Eventually, the violence was dealt with, and by the 20th century Guy Fawkes Day had become an enjoyable social commemoration, although lacking much of its original focus. The present-day Guy Fawkes Night is usually celebrated at large organised events, centred around a bonfire and extravagant firework displays.
    Settlers exported Guy Fawkes Night to overseas colonies, including some in North America, where it was known as Pope Day. Those festivities died out with the onset of the American Revolution, although celebrations continue in some Commonwealth nations. Claims that Guy Fawkes Night was a Protestant replacement for older customs like Samhain are disputed, although another old celebration, Halloween, has lately increased in popularity, and according to some writers, may threaten the continued observance of 5 November.
     
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    Vendetta is a great book, I have read it twice.
     
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    Yeah its also a great movie :)
     
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    We were talking about this yesterday thats funny that someone else posted it.
     
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    I prefer Nineteen Eighty-Four when it comes to totalitarian literature. V For Vendetta was okay, a little bit too cheeky for me.
     
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    What do you mean too cheeky?
     
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    LOL
    cheeky?
    Of all the words to describe V for vendetta
    CHEEKY?
    lmao
    My old friend Katie made a post on FB saying this and I was forced to go watch the movie >_<
     
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    Even though it actually wasn't Guy Fawkes who orginated the plan, and was merely just a participant. He just got caught guarding the barrels before they were set to blow, and practically got all the credit for a plan that wasn't his to begin with. :p
     
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    And on that day, everyone remembered the fifth of November.
     
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    I loved the film, pretty sure the book is good too. We always set off a few on the 5th.
     
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    The screenplay takes a piece which is about Thatcherite Britain and tries to use it to bang home a message about George Bush's USA. So, instead of Moore's extreme conservative regime (graphic-novel), we are presented with a 'British' government of the religious right, which seeks to ban homosexuality and Islam in the name of Christianity. Anyone who is actually British will find this confusing and nonsensical, as there is no popular religious right in Britain.

    Moore's novel deliberately does not end with firm conclusions, but asks you to consider relative evils: the government is obviously oppressive and fascist, but V is no less totalitarian in his own convictions. When he blows up symbols of democracy and justice like the OId Bailey, murders those who don't agree with him, or tortures Evie to 're-educate her', he becomes more and more like the government he despises.

    In the film, this duality is forgotten, and V is presented as a straightforward hero. The conclusion, therefore, is that terrorism works, terrorism is good, and the ends always justify the means.

    The film misses the principal point of the novel, throws in a pointless addition of a love story, and is underwhelming from a cinematic perspective (IE knives leaving vapour trails?) , considering this was presented by those that brought us The Matrix trilogy- i had anticipated a little more in the tasteful action department at the very least.
     
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    does anyone remember that Anonymous was supposed to hack Facebook in Nov 5th???

    What a shame
     
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