I Told My Mom Im Not A Christian

Alright well she tried to make me go to church today and I told her straight out I'm not a christian. Gave my reasons and such but apparently she believes theres only a heaven and a hell, a god and a devil. Keep in mind I'm only sixteen so her rebuttle to my statement was that I'm too young to make decisions for myself, however I tried to explain to her that wisdom is not subject to age. She believes that because I'm not following "God" that the devil is trying to "take me". I have nothing more to say to her because this has turned out to be a pointless conversation but it's just interesting for me to learn about the type of people that inhabit this Earth. Some people are just so selfish as to not be able to accept other peoples ideas. Sorry If this is a bit confusing to you I just peiced everything together sloppily.

Was anybody else faced with this problem when trying to discuss religious ideas with other people?​

 

honestly...your mom sounds like a bitch...I hate those people that think that if you don't believe in god, its the work of the devil...

Some people just can't be swayed to see other peoples points of view...if you really want to not go to church but your mother is forcing you...tell the minister to go fuck himself and scream it in front of everyone while he is giving the sermon...they will either ban your from the church of give you an exorcism.

 

Religion can't be forced upon someone it needs to be a choice the individual makes, your parents can guide you to a certain point and give you all the information you need to make an informed choice but at the end of the day you do have a choice.

I went through the same thing when I was your age coming from a Christian family, and I went and did my own thing and a few years later returned to my faith when I realised how much it meant to me and how much i depended on it.

 

Well technically because you're 16 your mum could make you go to church as you're in her care. I suppose as your mum is a theist she fears for your immortal soul, whether you believe or not, she has your best interests at heart.

 

She is ignorant, all though she only has what she believes to be your best interest at heart. Tell her you acknowledge this point, but are well old enough to make your own decisions. And tell her if she cannot come to grips with this, if she would rather live her whole life without a relationship with her child, she can go ahead.

 

Well, you have to try and see it from her point of view. Your her son, and she believes that those that aren't Christian will go to hell. No mother would want ill for her child, so she will try and be forceful with you.

 

If you do good in life and everything and never done nothing bad or let you parents down and prayed then you have the key to ''HEAVEN''

P.S I'm muslim.. so yah

 

You copying my avatar??

OT: Religion is one of those things that can be neither proven or disproven. You should keep your beliefs to yourself, and respect your mother's beliefs; as her minor child, you are obliged to do so. I have managed to convince my friends of how illogical religion is, but they still go to Church/religious services to respect their parents.

 

Nobody can be struck down to only 1 religion there decisions are affected as they grow.

 

Why don't you start off by telling her you disagree with the church?

"Saying going to church makes you a Christian, is like standing in a garage calling yourself a car"

Although, what Beestar said is true - that you should respect her - if you have thought out reasons as to why you don't consider yourself a Christian, then you should also be entitled to those opinions.

By going to church not only are you being forced against your will, but you're also developing a stronger distaste towards Christianity. It's a difficult battle to win, but try doing more research that prove's that the bible is full of hypocrisy and I'm sure over time she'll grow to understand how you feel - not entirely accept it, but simply see why you're moving away from the church.

In any case good luck.

 

I don't argue with extremely religious people. It is pointless most of the time.

 

That's exactly why I haven't told my parents. I just bite the bullet and go to church and then proceed to hang out with friends out side. I don't want to start a big shit fest so it's easier if they don't find out till after I've left the house.

 

I have a really close knit relationship with my Mom. I think she would understand, as she's not very religious, but I don't. I have to stay straight out your mom is ignorant.

 

Yea I should've done this If I would have just kept my mouth closed for two more years I wouldn't be in this situation. Oh and I'd forgotten to mention she told my relatives who are also strong christians and now they want to talk to me... and she took away my xbox since I didn't go to church the week modern warfare and fucking skyrim come out..

 

She's been conditioned to ignore scientific truths. On some level, it isn't her fault. Its really not worth it man, just go along with it until you're grown up. Just find a way not to go to church.


If you DO want to argue with her, ask her for proof of God/The divine (and specify, not just "Well we're alive, aren't we?).

 

If you don't want to go to church, ask her some hard questions. Say "Isn't it true that if God has a plan for everyone, there would be no point to praying to God?" That confuses religious people most of the time. Also "If God is so good and loving, why does did he make HIV, death, etc.?"

 

I lol'd, I think you are ignorant of religions.

I am not religious, and I don't claim to be. My family is really religious and I will occasionally go to church with them because I love the people that go there and I have respect for my family. Not all religious people are nut jobs that try to force religion down your throats; some out there just genuinely care for people and their lives. Like the ministry my family goes to is sort of an ex-addict out reach organization, and they just love to help people and they don't try to force religion on anyone but are there if you want to talk about it. They're fun people, but calling all religious people ignorant is gross generalization.


tl;dr: Respect your mom and humor her, because she is the only one you get.

 

I just wrote a paper on how children are conditioned to what they are born into and it is hard to question it. Respect all opinion and embrace everything. If you deny Christianity then learn about it so you understand all aspects of life. Agnosticism is a wonderful way to live.

 

No she can't. He actually has grounds for a valid legal argument of abuse, and could request to be taken from the home in placed in the care of someone who would not attempt to impose on his personal beliefs.

Plenty of mothers want ill for their children. I doubt his mother is doing this out of the kindness of her heart. It's more likely that she views it as not doing her religious-duty to make her family God-fearing.

Religion has already been disproven, countless times. Religious beliefs are what are difficult to debate. He is not required to go to church, and has the right to say no. Everyone has the right to choose their religious path, forcing a child to listen to religious dogma can be viewed as abuse.

That's not exactly the way to go about it, biting the bullet is not going to help you as you're not being truthful. Do you have so little respect for your parents that you can't tell them the truth? I know you'd rather avoid confrontation, but it's more childish to not tell them. Say you have no faith and that you hope they can respect that as you have and will continue to respect their beliefs.

Don't give in, stand your ground. Your beliefs are more important than your xbox. If you allow her to have her way, you won't show her you're serious, and you'll lose credibility.

I wouldn't suggest arguing with her, but you're right... it's not her fault for the way she is. But going along with it isn't going to make matters better. She's mentally sick, and playing along with the god delusion isn't going to help her get better.

That's a sick way of thinking about things. Just because she's the only mother he'll have he should do as she says? That's just not right.

I will agree that sometimes church outings can be fun. It's nice to be around people who want to be better, and who want to help others. However, they are still based upon a system that has not changed since the beginning. If there's a bible there, then chances are... the second they get the chance to convert someone... they will try to do so.




Here's what I would do in your situation, tell your mother you do not wish to participate in religious activities as it is no longer your belief. Do not continue with any further conversation. If she says you'll go to hell if you don't, tell her you respect her beliefs but still refuse to partake in religious activities.

Stand firm, but avoid telling her that she's looney or what your beliefs are. It's when you start trying to debate religion that you lose them. Mainly because you set off a trigger in which they begin sprouting off their beliefs, and it's impossible to get them to shut up. .

Good luck! If you want your xbox back, btw, ask her if punishing you for not being religious is her call... or if she's simply imposing on God's job. . That's a daring move, though, so good luck. haha

 

Arguing your point as an atheist, or agnostic (as myself) to religious people (mainly christians, jews, and muslims) is almost impossible as they already took the easy way out saying god is why its this way and they will not change that. Though i love arguing religion with people since i get to make them sound childish it wont help you in this situation. If you want to see where your mom is coming from look at it this way, she 100% believes that all this horse shit is true and therefore she is trying to save your soul from an eternal shit hole, so it is quite a noble act ( even though its all in her mind and not cold hard fact ) she really is trying to look out for you. So you can either just go along with it and once she will listen to you tell her thanks but i still think this isnt true, or you can never give in and tell her that you respect the fact that she is looking out for you but you already have broken the 1 unforgivable sin ( Denying the existence of god ) and going to church will be pointless since you are doomed.