[MUST READ] Nexus / PayPal giving botters e-mail adresses to Jagex?

The theory makes sense, but I have the same email registered on all my accs and its my paypals email address aswell but i only received 1 email from jagex like that on only 1 acc not all 20+accs I've been using under that email

 

It seems like pretty much everyone only got it on one account (and their email).

So that sounds right.

 

There just posting meny minor threat email's to most people tbh.

 

sources????

 

this is interesting:

http://www.develop-online.net/news/28689/PayPal-exec-becomes-Jagex-CEO


EDIT:

Whoops, didnt see it was october 23 of 2007, i only read oct 23!

 

I was told it was from iBot releasing peoples information after they lost a court case with JaGeX or something.. IDK if it's bullshit though.

 

the fact that they're even threatening that is really lame

 

My accounts weren't linked to the email I received. Maybe a few I don't play on but not my main or pure.

 

I assume it was your paypal email adress, though?

 

Its always handy to have two different email accounts!
Don't have them linked.

 

omg this made my day "i used to kill green drags for the dragon bones" wow but seriously on topic i used the same email and i didn't recieve any warning from jagex

 

I only got the Ingame Message.. I use a different email for my paypal.

 

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That is the privacy policy on our information through Paypal. That is what happened.

 

Previous post proves a lot. Probably JaGeX won a lawsuit, or just claimed their rights using the above sentence... strange that it only applies to iBot though.

Anyway:

My rsbuddy/sythe/paypay emailaccount is diferrent then the e-mail i've registered my main on, so they can't link my main's email with the one on rsbuddy... however:

I've payed members with paypal and also some auth keys... Seems they don't link that yet. As soon as they do i'll be screwed as well.

 

btw just found this:

http://www.rfcexpress.com/lawsuits/...191/jagex-limited-v-impulse-software/summary/

Shows a case between impulse (iBot) and jagex has been on botnuke day. We must wait until at least May 21st for the results. Unless there is some kind of settlement.


And here's well, whatever i don't know how to call it, JaGeXes letter to Impulse:

http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/2410/t1484066-jagex-lawsuit-against-botting/

Open the spoiler on the first post.

And some more information im all not bothered to read, but its Jagex vs impulse:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/36934197/Jagex-Ltd-v-Impulse-Software-D-Mass-copyright-trademark-DMCA

All these tons of information might show us:
- what jagex can, and probably will do
- How jagex detects bots
- and probably some workarounds for future code's of conduct.

If anyone's got a day off, or wishes to improve his English, then please: post a summary

LOL: MMG bragging (copy the link in ur browser, noticed more people do this on posts towards runescape.com. Removed the url so you simply can't click)
services.runescape.com/m=forum/forums.ws?15,16,836,63317104

Above RSOF thread is extremely interresting when you wish to know more on the lawsuit.

Direct copy from the above stated thread:
Oooh I just did a google using the directions above, and the second link is a link to the results of an order to shut down the bot makers until the trial is done. The results were shocking. Here is a summary.

1) Jagex is suing on 4 counts against the botting company
a) Copyright infringement
b) DCMA (as quoted above)
c) trademark infringement
d) Computer Fraud and Abuse Act
The case was initiated in Massachesetts, until the case is done they want to shut down the botting company as they claimed that the botting company is causing them to lose customers.

2) First of all The botting company bitched and wanted the trial moved to Florida where they live. The judge DENIED them, on the grounds that a lot of runescape players live in Massachesetts (kind of lol) and the bots didn't tell Massachetts people NOT to buy bots (again kind of lol) therefore it is related to the case.

The next steps the court establishes how liklely the counts are to be successful.

3) For the count of the Copyright Jagex was cited as "Unlikely to succeed" because their source code is actually NOT COPYRIGHTED (kind of lol) and all of their copyrights are on imagery that the bot didn't use.

4) For the DCMA claim, Jagex is also cited as "Unlikely to succeed" as the source code doesn't fall under the act. This was surprising to me. They also say that the technological measure has not been cited.

5) Regarding trademark infringement, it cited as "Unlikely to succeed" as the bots removed all references to runescape, changed their domain names etc. They still refer to runescape, but they are not pretending to be runescape.

6) Finally for computer fraud and abuse they said that bots are not "exceeding authorized access" to runescape. so it is also not likely to succeed.

7) The judge went on to say that they knew about botting a long time ago and took too long to bring it to court, therefore the financial loss thing is moot.

The motion to shut down the bots was DENIED.

This was on August 2010

 

This was posted on rsbots.net


On Tuesday, October 25th, Jagex contacted many of our customers via email stating that they had "strong evidence that you may have purchased and used botting software in the past, specifically ibot software". The email later goes on to threaten that if you do not stop botting you may be named in a lawsuit based on DMCA violations which is pending in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California. Since then, there have been many rumors spreading throughout the community as to how Jagex got a hold of, and planned to use this information.

Earlier this year, Jagex's lawyers subpoenaed PayPal for information regarding purchase information of bot customers. Knowing how sensitive this information is, and how much we care about our customers, our lawyers immediately responded to this subpoena to question their intentions. Their lawyers specifically made it clear that this information would not be shown to any Jagex employees. To ensure this, we filed a protective order on the information with the courts to make it illegal for their lawyers to show any of the information to Jagex employees.

Later this summer, Jagex illegally circumvented the protective order. To dupe the courts, Jagex filed a separate suit in the California Federal Court (Jagex Limited vs. John Does). The courts in the State of California did not know about the protective order, and granted Jagex's lawyers access to the PayPal information again with another subpoena for that case. Of course, this time, there was no protective order. This is a mockery of the U.S. legal system.

We were not made aware of these actions by Jagex until we learned of the emails going out this past Tuesday. Since then, our lawyers have been preparing an emergency motion to submit to the courts explaining what Jagex has done, and the demands we have regarding their actions. This filing was submitted to the courts and made public today. The filing can be publicly read from a PDF document here. If this interests you, we encourage you to read and then re-read this filing for a full perspective on the situation (case filing starts on page 5).

A notable summary of the demands made in the filing are as follows:

Ordering Jagex to dismiss the case in the State of California (Jagex vs. John Does).
Ordering Jagex to immediately destroy any and all information obtained from the PayPal subpoena.
Ordering Jagex to take no action against any of the customers or RS accounts of the customers that they received from the subpoena.
Ordering Jagex to resend an email to all affected customers retracting the statements made in the email sent out earlier this Tuesday and to publicly post an apology on their main websites stating the same.

All demands can be found within the filing on pages 26-27.

It is also noteworthy that this filing is a motion to file an extended motion, so it will not contain all exhibit information. The full motion, including all exhibits, should be available Monday. We will follow up with a link to that filing when it becomes publicly available as well. Being an emergency motion, a decision of these demands by the Judge should be made within the following week. The maximum decision time is two weeks.

In conclusion, nothing is more important to us than our customers. We have and always will fight to protect our customers in every way possible. We are extremely apologetic for any ill-concerns this mess may have caused you. We hope by publicly keeping you informed on the situation, you all will understand this very important fact.

 

Jagex does have a point though, if Runescape continues to go with everyone botting, truely no point in playing if you get where i'm coming from.