Make Names Instantly Transferable

Make ALL names in the name sales section INSTANTLY transferable before they are allowed to sell. (i.e- make this a rule)

This will reduce a) scamming, and b) the vast amount of not really 'rare' names
as elaborated below:


i.e http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1166467 (the 'one month' method in this thread created by T V)

I bought a display name about a couple of months ago that was recovered on the 27th day. Ive been looking through the RaS section and I see this happening a lot, a person sells an account with a coveted display name, he then recovers immediately, and proceeds to make a vader account and resell the name. Its hard to monitor each name given the volume of sales so not hard to get away with.


This would also resolve the issue of 'name sniping'. Another benefit is it saves the buyer a lot of effort in terms of subscribing the account etc.

I understand a lot of name sellers will oppose this thread, as it involves a lot more trouble for them. But, as a quick glance at that thread will tell you, there are tons of not really RARE displaynames created by anyone who has about 3 spare minutes, given the time it takes to create an account/name.

This will enable only those sellers whose benefit from the name sale outweighs cost from subscibing to pay to play from selling/creating these so called 'rare names'. (Automatically, all names that are traded will end up being more than the cost of the pay-to-play subscription)

This will weed out a ton of the names that are not really rare and which are just created for a quick 500k profit.



Credit for this idea goes to KeroKeroCola who suggested it.

 

I don't know if this is the best answer, but I do know that recovering a name when it's almost done has become a small problem. This is one solution--are there any others?

 

No support. It would be dangerous to sell a name once transferable. And to make a sale thread about it, publicizing the name to other people whom are mostly all skilled name snipers is stupid. Also, name sniping is not considered scamming so if names are sniped, no sythe members can be held responsible.

The name sale section is a subsection of Account Sales for a reason. This implies the account along with the name. If it's just the name it's too dangerous. Transferring should be the buyer's responsibility.

I counter-suggest no display name only sales. All name sales must be sold with the account. Transferring would be the buyer's responsibility.

 

I don't agree about making it a rule. The seller will have to have members on the acct for it to work and the sale would have 2 days to go through pretty much. I think this would be a good option of terms to work into a valuable trade, but if it was mandatory it would kill the name sales. I would only consider supporting if it was made mandatory only for names that are being traded for above a certain price, like 100M. Otherwise, it will just kill the board.

There are tons of names that sell under 15m and are good names, it wouldn't be worth it to get members for these. Also, a lot of lower priced names people don't buy to transfer the name, they buy it and make a pure or something with the account already having the cool name.

 

No disrecpect, but do you know how this works? making it "instantly transferable" does not mean anyone who knows the name can change it, it would have to be in that precise window of about a few seconds that a sniper would have to steal the name.

Also, name sniping is not considered scamming so if names are sniped, no sythe members can be held responsible.


Dont think this is true, was browsing the where did [name here] go thread and I think i saw a couple banned for sniping. Even if it isnt, consider this an added suggestion. This should be an offence here on sythe.

"I counter-suggest no display name only sales. All name sales must be sold with the account. Transferring would be the buyer's responsibility"

Woudnt have a problem with your suggestion, but I bought an account like this, with a name. He recovered it in 28 days.

I strongly think transferring should be the SELLERS and not the buyers responsibility.

 

"and the sale would have 2 days to go through pretty much"

Why? Having it being p2p is a rule is what I am suggesting.

"I think this would be a good option of terms to work into a valuable trade, but if it was mandatory it would kill the name sales. I would only consider supporting if it was made mandatory only for names that are being traded for above a certain price, like 100M. Otherwise, it will just kill the board."


I see the sense in this suggestion, the question arises as to what amount the line would be drawn at, and isnt this a double standard?

What would be so wrong with "killing the name sales" i.e weeding out the tons of less desired names that people wrongly misconcieve as being rare?

 

No support - This would kill that section.

It should be up to the buyer to transfer the name, not the seller. If you don't trust someone to buy a name off them... Don't trade them at all.

Also this wouldn't resolve name sniping at all, people are super impatient to transfer names... If anything this would make name sniping easier for the seller. Because they know that the buyer will try to transfer the name instantly.

 

Same as with normal accounts... you must trust seller. Simple as that

No support.

 

"Also this wouldn't resolve name sniping at all, people are super impatient to transfer names... If anything this would make name sniping easier for the seller. Because they knows that the buyer will try to transfer the name instantly."

Fair point, didnt think of that.

 

Two reasons why I don't sell instantly transferable names:

1. The name is even more likely to be sniped by one of the many lurkers who sit on Sythe and watch the names being sold. Reason being is that they'll be sure to watch the name more attentively in hopes of stealing it.

2. If a buyer isn't found soon enough, one of two things would happen:

A. The name is released and possibly taken by someone else when it loses the "Last known as" icon

B. To avoid ^that from happening, I'd have to reverse the name change, thus wasting a month of membership.

If there was a safe way to transfer instantly, believe me, I'd be more than willing to embrace it.

I know the name sales business is becoming increasingly risky, and at times I wish it really would die. It was fun in the beginning when all these name snipers weren't around, but frankly, I myself would support the removal of name sales entirely due to all the scamming that's been happening.

 

I agree with what T V stated, there have been numerous high profile Sythe traders that have been banned for sniping names, so I can only imagine the amount of low-key/banned members that scour the forums looking for a name to snag.

As of now, there's no surefire way to transfer a name in Runescape, unless you're buddy buddy with a Jagex Moderator, and the risk of transferring a name will further increase if this suggestion is implemented. Not to mention the names section will be full of topics titled "Selling Ultra Rare Name - Pm Me"