Is Religion at fault

Religion is merely a form of control over the masses. Naturally, humans are greedy and this is where conflict is aroused.

 

I don't agree with that, personally. Judaism is a religion, not a race. There are black Jews, white Jews, Asian Jews, etc. I stand by my original statement about the Holocaust being a religious purging.

 

Judaism is a religion, however, according to scientific racism, it is counted as a race. Because of this, Hitler often killed people who had a single great grandparent who was a Jew. He believed that they were tainted with with the Jewish "Race"

 

They're not mutually exclusive though.. it can be and is still (at least in my opinion) also a religious purging.

 

It is mutually exclusive if you also count the fact that hitler is known for killing Disabled people, and other people in the "Untermensch" category

 

That doesn't make it mutually exclusive... perhaps you're not understanding the definition of mutually exclusive. Hitler killed people who he thought were beneath him. Yes, that's true. How does this not also make it a religious purging? He targeted people of a specific religion (Judaism) in an attempt to wipe them out. If that doesn't fit the definition of a religious purging then please tell me what exactly does.

 

A religious purging, in my understanding, is a purging SOLELY Based on religious belief or the religion of the targeted group, and not in any way involved with racism.
This is why I classify Hitler as a leader of Genocide.

 

Slightly.
I believe that religion is there to convince the people to do one thing or another. In some areas, this is called a dictatorship. But in the roman church's it was "God's will"
Today the U.S. still fights "under god"
AKA a way to fight for your country, for no apparent reason.

Religion is just a brainwashing mechanism..

 

*facepalm* Stop tip toeing over the wording, I really don't feel like playing semantics with you

Hitler did target Jews specifically, based solely on their religious beliefs. Just because he also killed other groups of people doesn't excuse the fact he DID target Jews based on nothing other than their beliefs, thereby making it a religious purging even by your definition.

Also, I'm not sure where you're going with the genocide bit.

Call it a religious genocide, that way we can stop this game of semantics we have going on atm. Point being, you're right but you're not at the same time.

 

To reduce the motives for the Holocaust to the mere anti-religious is absurd; to do so would be to ignore a sizable amount of motivating factors. You main issue is that you don't understand what the Jews are. They are an ethno-religious group that consists of both adherents to the faith and those who do not believe (this is why terms such as "Christian Jew" or "Atheist Jew" are not contradictory, as one can be ethnically Jewish without holding specific beliefs about the supernatural). Jews who did not believe in all the tenets of Judaism were persecuted alongside those who did: Einstein, who was something of an agnostic deist (if that), did not return to Germany after Hitler's rise to power; and Freud, an atheist, had his books burned by the Nazis and was forced to flee his home country of Austria after its annexation.

 

Okay, then I revise my original wording of "religious purging" to simply "genocide". The point still applies, it was at least in part religiously motivated. I never tried to discredit all of the other reasons behind the Holocaust, merely state that it was at least in part rooted in religion, which would also be absurd to reject.

 

It's the one thing holding man kind back.

How someone can believe in any god has me stuffed

 

Thanks for clearing that up. That is what I have been attempting to say.