Enforced Uniform

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Enforced Uniform
  1. Unread #61 - Sep 9, 2011 at 10:50 AM
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    There have also been cases where people bully because people wear glasses, or don't play certain sports, or are weak, or have no friends, the list is endless.

    First, just because you wear 'shabby' clothes doesn't mean you'll get bullied. You need to understand the nature of bullying, people bully not because someone wears bad clothes, they may at first give a remark, but, bullying is repetitive with the intent to harm. No one is going to bully a strong kid, it just doesn't happen. No one is going to bully a charismatic and funny kid, it just doesn't happen. Why? Because they're not weak, they're not easy targets. Bullying based on what clothes someone wears is hardly an issue, it's not likely to be the make or break, there would most certainly be other factors. I can delve into other factors if you like, such as a dysfunctional family.

    So what? Because someone is rich we punish them, and because someone is poor we reward them? No. It's not the kids fault that his parents are poor, that's correct, but nor is it the kids fault that their parents are rich. How about we stop punishing and start letting it be.

    Yet you promote more segregation by supporting all students be homogeneous in terms of attire and isolated from the way society clothes itself?
     
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    So you believe that nothing should be done because there are too many ways in which children can be bullied? Surely tackling at least part of the problem is better than sitting back & doing nothing because it is near impossible to put a stop to bullying within the school grounds.

    I think you're making a rather large assumption here, 'No one is going to bully a charismatic and funny kid, it just doesn't happen' when you make such statements, sources are needed to back up your argument.
    Otherwise, I hereby make the claim that bullying is solely caused by children wearing shabby clothes.



    I hardly regard wearing uniform as punishing children, in England, almost every school has a uniform code & It is widely accepted, it is evident that you've got a different experience.

    If you put your logic into prospective, many jobs require a certain dress code/uniform varying from a suit to illuminative clothes, would it be unfair for an employer to ask the employee to abide by this dress code/uniform?

    I don't pretend that society is equal, however when it comes to schooling at a young age, in the classroom, they should be given equal opportunities, and not be subject to harassment because of the way they dress.
     
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    Good.

    Thus is because; you wouldn't get picked on for what brand of clothes you wear, or how much your outfit cost. I've personally never gone to one, but I know a ton of people who do, and they said they are very happy that they enforced it.
     
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    Uniforms are a need in all fields. I believe that you should be required to wear a pre-determined set of clothing to school as you should conduct yourself in a professional manner.

    School is not a place for you to be socializing about parties, clothes, drugs, etc. It's a place for you to go and learn and become a better person, meanwhile networking and branching out to learn about different cultures as well.

    Self expression is not necessary as it is a distraction from both your studies and those of other students.

    To be honest, I don't blame poor education in America on teachers, I blame it on students who refuse to put the necessary focus on their school work and are instead concerned with other matters while attending.

    Uniforms, code of conducts, etc are all good, and students who act against it should either be punished or removed from the environment as they disturb the peace.
     
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    It's not a problem though. You would strip a child of his individuality and ability to express himself and turn him into a sheep?



    First off, my 'assumption' was not an assumption, granted it was a hyperbole but it's nonetheless true. One of the main reasons people bully someone is because their a weak/easy target. A strong or charismatic kid is not a weak target hence highly unlikely to be bullied. You've also made a claim that has no support whatsoever hence self-refuting yourself. Two explanations: Frustration-Aggression Hypothesis, and Dysfunctional Family.

    http://www.livescience.com/8155-bullies-pick-unpopular-kids-study-finds.html




    I've worn a uniform my whole life. How is it not punishing children. You can't wear this, you can only wear this. That is exactly what they are saying. Imagine if you wanted to play baseball and your parents say no you must play ping pong. Imagine if you wanted to go out with your friends and your parents said no, you must study. Imagine if you wanted to wear some comfortable clothes to the beach and your parents said no, you must wear a suit and tie. Imagine if a school is saying you must wear a uniform and not your own casual clothes. Just because something is widely accepted, doesn't mean it's not punishment.

    Dress code is entirely different from a uniform. Also, no one is forcing you to stay at that job. Schools differ slightly, most kids are entrenched in that school, and never made the choice to go, and never had the ability to retaliate until their later years. As for uniforms, I don't think there are many jobs at all that enforce a homogeneous uniform code.

    You have no evidence that they will be subject to bullying or harassment because of the way they dress. Even if they do be subject to harassment, not only is it not bullying, but it is HIGHLY likely that a plethora of other reasons cumulatively provoked the bully to bully. Equal opportunity has been tried in the American education system, No child left behind Act. It failed, miserably. They ended up holding the smart back and allowing the 'dumb' to catch up, and in the end everyone suffered.

    It is highly accepted by psychologists and has evidence to support that bullies will tend to bully weaker kids. Now this is actually not pin-point accurate, but, it is good enough for laymen's terms. Just think about it, if your a bully, would you bully someone who's big and tank, and has a gang of friends, or would you bully that nerd with his head down at the bus stop?
     
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    Uniform != professional. Uniform = mindless cashier at McDonald's.

    The social aspect of school is extremely important to teach children and teenagers social skills that will be needed throughout life.

    Generalization that does not hold true for every person or situation.

    School is mandatory and for many kids in bad situations they only go because the government is forcing them to. The government has a duty to better the lives of its citizens even when they do not help themselves.

    If you just have a good code of conduct you have no need for uniforms.
     
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    Some argue that enforcement of uniforms in school take away the personal & social aspect of it. However, schools have been a place of education.... always were.. You go to school to learn. Not to dress like a clown, not to fool around, not to have your underwear showing (do you know what this is saying?), ect.

    So yes, school uniforms should be enforced. This is coming from someone who attended both types of schools.
     
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    I am pro-uniforms in school.

    It eliminates the social hardships of having low income parents buying their children over priced clothes, made usually by under paid, third-world, workers, in order to compete with the high-rising standards that our social media presents them with.

    Also, if the only thing that school kids will be wearing five, of seven, days a week then the demand demestic clothing will decrease and for school clothing to decrease, leaving a new neich in the market to be fullfilled. Aka new jobs and revenue within the country.

    Of course this is all relevant to my home country of Canada. If uniforms are a good idea for the rest of the world- is another question entirely.

    So I guess my answer is, "Enforced school uniforms may be a good idea, because the advantages of doing so may outweigh those of not acting all together."
     
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