Apple VS Android - Who is taking the lead?

Depends on what phone you got. I started with the iPhone and switched to Android, and I'm not regretting it in the least. It's true that the Android is for the more advanced user, but it's also incredibly easy to learn how to use, and once you figure that out, you realize how much more it can do and what more it's capable of than iPhone. Even my brother in law who doesn't speak English likes Android phones better. Also, Android's not "losing" anything - they're actually right on par with Apple. The only difference is that the makers of most apps focus more on updating with the iPhone, which is one of the reasons why people tend to buy them. Not to mention, Apple purposely holds BACK ideas that they could put into a more recent phone, just to be able to release a new phone virtually every year. And people really are loyal (and stupid) enough for pay the 300 each time.

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I personally think Apple is killing themselves by not letting any other manufacturers make a phone using their OS. They're making a monopoly on their own item, which isn't even all that great to begin with. If they let things be a little more flexible in operation and let some other people develop phones using their OS, they'd probably be more dominant in the market. As it is right now, yeah, they're not doing bad.. but think about all the competition it would stir up for Android? Part of Android's success is the freedom to do almost anything without needing to root/jailbreak your phone. There are some added benefits to rooting an Android phone, but jailbreaking an iPhone is practically required to get your money's worth. It's a major deterrent for me, personally. After owning an Android phone now for going on 2 years, and my plan being up just in time for the iPhone 5 release, I'm honestly not sure what I'm going to do. Unless iOS 5 or whatever it's called pulls some major functionality out of its ass, I'm probably sticking to Android :/.

Not to mention I HATE companies that release a product, then a few months later dangle an all new, even better one in your face. Sure with Android having so many different suppliers and stuff the same thing happens, but at least Android (for the most part) shares the same functionality across the board (OTA updates usually allow even my old Motorola DROID to do pretty much everything the newer Android phones can do)

 

I too, am awaiting the Iphone 5. Rumors have it that it will be released October. If the next iPhone is Iphone 4Gs, Then I am sticking with my MyTouch 4g. Not enough information on the iPhone 5 yet. Wouldn't Pre-Orders be available though if it was to come out in October?

 

The next iPhone WILL NOT have 4G.
It has been confirmed that Verizon 4G LTE network will only be available no earlier then 2012.
AT&T with the failure of buying out T-Mobile, due to the Government saying "it will reduce competition" will ALSO not have 4G ready before 2012.
The next iPhone, wether it is the 4S or the 5, will be released in October. The iPhone with 4G will be released in 2012.

And Apple will always lead. It doesn't matter if they are "killing" themselves by not allowing others to use their iOS, but that's how they're WINNING.
They made their OWN OS and their OWN phone. All the profit to themselve, plus they made the EASIEST to use touchscreen phone along with a marketplace that allows over 1 Million apps and games to date along with Sync to the most popular form of music, iTunes and along ith the iPod.
Considering that the iPhone implements everything into one simple and small package, it will never go belo other companies.

Russian

 

Just switched from iphone to htc inspire..gotta say its awesome.

 

No offense but if you can't keep the fanboyism out of your post, don't bother posting haha. Also, just because I know it'll break your heart... Blackberry still has a much higher share of the smartphone market than Apple does.

 

I don't really see how there is any 'fanboyism' in his post, he stated the facts and the facts only :huh:

 

Apple is very lucky to have you as a loyal customer, but you do realise that what you've said accounts for practically all smart phones now. Apple's brand is what makes it stand out more than anything else. Technology is in par with other phones now.

Apple will always lead?! Never go below other companies?! Do you realise what you're saying? Technology is constantly adapting/improving. Apple back in the early 80's became a top contender and then Microsoft came in and Apple became pretty much worthless. Now Apple returns, but Google is after it's market share and it is definitely catching up.

No company is resilient in this fast economic climate especially when it relates to technology and innovation. One step behind is huge in the industry and unless Apple plans to sue every company for copyright infringement and patenting lawsuits, hindering further innovation by rival companies, it will not remain on top forever.

Don't forget the big countries have anti-competition governance which disallows large corporations from acting as monopolies.

Further, with Steve Jobs out of the picture although he will still remain passively on the board, will put Apple through some tough times due to the fact that the new CEO has massive shoes to fill.

 

Fanboyism?
I'm sorry.
I mean I have only owned every phone that has come out ranging from the notoriously BEST smartphone released by Nokia, the N95, with the BEST camera and the LOUDEST set of speakers on a phone to date.
To the Vertu, which is the expensive side of Nokia, where it's just a Gold plated and diamond encrusted phone, which SUCKS.
I have an N95 as my backup with a pre-paid SIM just lying around incase my iPhone breaks.

There's more facts for you.
Glad I sound like a fanboy when all I did was provide the truth.
The reason it's the BEST isn't because I own an iPhone, but its because in TODAYS world, the 21st century, kids all want the hottest toy. And that hottest toy is Apple iPhone's, iPads, etc...
Windows has been laggy, and always will be. I know this, I've hacked WM6 phone and the new W7 smartphone. I had the Dell Venue Pro, which is by FAR the best slide up qwerty keyboard TOUCHscreen phone.
Blackberry holds the market because of business E-Mail integration, and you know this for a fact. Don't need to be a business man to know that.
iPhone is used as a gaming platform, music player, internet on the go and a phone as well as a camera and on the go Skyping/Video calling.
Yes... the MyTouch 4G can do that. Good for Motorola, a company that has been losing shares to Apple, along with Androids buggy system. I have used Android, rooted and unrooted phone. Hacked to run all the newer firmwares. And what's the problem with Anroid? Well, it lags. It's bugged and is flawed by the buggy apps it has.

Blackberry is the best phone I have used to date for E-Mail and texting.
Blackberry messanger is phenominal.
Blackberry's apps? Overpriced. $7 for a theme. $1 for should-be free apps.

Windows has been bugged and slowed. Always Windows has been bad.
W7 is a smooth interface, yet the also lack in useful apps, especially the wy they work. they do not work smoothly and correctly, but the LIVE integration along with cloud integration is amazing.

Tell me who the fanboy is now?
Don't judge other people please. You know nothing about me, therefor you shouldn't say anything.

Thank You. Atleast some people know how to read and understand writing.

Loyal customer? Great... I've used Apple on and off throughout it's beginning, hated the FIRST iPhone, hated the 3G, hated the 3GS, and now I hate the iPhone 4, because I PERSONALLY like eye-candy phones. Hence why I had the Vertu, Ferrari Vertu's, the Venue Pro, Nokia's, the prototype CHINA Aeon, along with phones like the ever-popular Razr. The reason I HAVE an iPhone is because it has apps like Square, where I can charge credit cards from buyers on the go, PayPal, eBay, Craigslist, Banking apps with balance views and incoming outgoing transauction. Apple made the phone with a SIMPLE interface, buttons on homescreen. No navigating to anywhere. Click, sign in, and everything is easy to view.
Cool... I'm a loyal customer to Apple.....
Like I said, you don't know me, should be saying anything you don't know.
I sell iPhones on eBay and to stores here in Philadelphia, like JJ Electronics and Northeast Wireless. I buy them in bulk, so I got one for myself.
I Jailbreak and unlock them to increase my profits, that's why I have iPhones.

Wait WHY do I sell iPhones and not Nokias or Motorolas? Because they are the HOTTEST item out right now. People buy them from me for 800$ when I buy them in bulk for $250-$350.
Please don't judge me.
I do what I do, and know from experience.
I've handled more phones in a month then you probably did in your whole life.
Do not put me on the spot saying "listen to what your saying."
I am listening, it's in my head.
YES! There is new innovation... but for some reason... you can PORT Android on to Windows and Windows on to Android... yet you CAN'T port iOS into anything... so proves iOS is a stronger operating system.
Not only that, but, Apple made the EASIEST and SIMPLEST touchscreen available.... Android has widgets, which I like, others hate them. There's too much on the screen. Apple is simple, thats why its so popular.
Apples messanging interface, other phones adapted AFTER Apple made it big, others started to use threaded messaging....
Know what I've been through, the hundreds of thousands of phones I've used, I prefer the N95 by Nokia as the number 1 phone, and it is my backup phone.

Calling me a fanboy is disrespectful to me and what I stand for.
That's like me calling you a fanboy because you like Bentley or Rolls Royce or Lamborghini just cause it's the "fastest or more luxurious" car.


Russian

 

You've stated SOME phones. What about the HTC range? Samsung Galaxy SI and now the SII in which Apple tried to sue for copyright and failed. You may have played with a few phones.. but the ones that are up to Apple's level you haven't or at least you haven't mentioned. Still biased opinion but you can't expect there to be no bugs here and there when Android is a free open-sourced OS. At the rate at which it's firmware is being upgraded and improved is considerably greater than having to fork out hundreds on a new iPhone every year although iPhone does have its updates too.

In terms of user friendliness, Apple would go well for the average phone user. For those like myself, we prefer the ability to freely customise our phones the way we want to. Apple doesn't give much room for choice - at the moment. They know now that it's either keep up with the competition or eventually get overtaken which is what is slowly happening.

But yes, you are right. Apple has played the game very well and is utilising its resources at the most appropriate times. It is definitely a brand for the future. But definitely not a clear winner for long.

 

HTC is a company that dishes out MORE phones then Apple.
Don't argue, they try to dish out a NEWER phone, running a slightly bigger processor, and by the end of the few months of you having that phone, it starts to slow down, lagg etc...

And buddy, I had T-Mobile, which is why I UNLOCKED iPhones in the first place. I OWNED the Galaxy... opening up a text and typing very fast made the phone run slow. The improved GalaxyII? Same problem. I LOVE the Swype keyboard.. AWESOME. I wish Apple integrated that. Because the ORIGINAL Android keyboard, fails. It's laggy and it's slow. It's miss calibrated and freezes.
Open source OS... yes you;re right. Let me ask... do YOU personally write code?
If no, and you download themes and such to make your phone better, then buddy listen to me, I have done that HUNDREDS of times!
Here take a look at my iPhone screen I took a while back, am using THIS interface:

And YOUR telling me it's not customizable?
OK.

And I'm glad how Apple is slowly being overtaken... I HOPE for better competition... BUT as of RIGHT NOW, and they anticipation, even from my retailers and BUYERS of the iPhone 5, beats the anticipation of any HTC, MOTOROLA, NOKIA phone combined.

I know this.
I work with those types of people.

Russian

 

Saying you're a loyal customer has nothing to do with KNOWING you. You stated yourself you've owned all the iPhones. That by definition is loyal regardless of your opinion on the specific phone. I don't claim to know you, nor have intent to. It was an observed statement which happened to be accurate, even if it represents a false-positive opinion on the brand itself.

Anyway back on topic. Apple monopolises the market, and you know that - through its massive range of accessories, to it's App market. The reason why soo many companies are still struggling to keep up is due to the patents that Apple so wilfully hold. If you've been keeping up with the media the last few months, there have been many large court cases concerning Apple and it's competition. To say that Apple has a stronger iOS, sure but in considering the fact that the company itself is infringing on innovation itself by pulling injunctions on developments of certain technologies by its competition.

I'm not trying to disprove Apple's credibility. You've put forward a very valid argument. I just want to make it clear that we aren't arguing the past, nor are we discussing other companies. We speak for the future, and it is quite observable that even with it's large client base, no company can continue to be ahead especially in this industry. Android will surely catch up, eventually.

 

I think it's time to end this debate. Tell me one thing, Russian, where do you think Apple will stand post iPhone 5? With Steve Jobs out of the picture..

 

I believe it's loyal when you own EVERYTHING by a company?
I own an Apple iPhone. great. Yet I own an HP Touchsmart, Motorola Xoom, Acer netbook, and Samsung Plasma's. Along with Mercedes Benz as a car. Why do I have them? They work fine for me? They do everything I need?
I DONT need an iPad when the Xoom will suffice, and all the apps on the iPad are on the iPhone.
I have also owned ALL of the N series phones. Including multiple N95's, N96's, N97's, the notorious N900 and the upcoming N950.
So doesn't that mean I'm loyal to them too? No. It means that the technology and the interface they provide work for me. It does what I need it to do, no more, no less.

I hate being called a fanboy just because I exploited Apples iPhone to make myself a business in which I loss NO money guaranteed?
Then you sir, have a long way to go.

But if I WOULD be called a fanboy, I would DEFEND to the death of me ALL of Apples products, not the iPhone itself. And even the iPhone I'm not defending.
Oh did I mention I have a Zune Yearly membership for my Zune Touch :O
Zune for $150 a YEAR I get UNLIMITED music... and that's perfect.
I use it in my car, planes, long drives etc...

And yes, EVERY company has a lead roll to go in the Future. No company would be better over the other WITHOUT heavy competition.

I'm defending the fact that you are calling me a "fanboy" of Apple, not wether a company can overtake them.
And ANYONE is a loyal customer... do you own an iPod??? THEN you're a loyal customer LMFAO!
Jesus christ... if you own ANYTHING of ANY company, you are a LOYAL CUSTOMER to that company for PURCHASING and USING their items......



Any company can overtake Apple, and I'm aiming for Nokia.



Don't call me a fanboy.
Because then technically you are a fanboy of ANYTHING you own as well.
Don't call me a loyal customer.
Because EVERYONE is a loyal customer... you own a computer... what brand is it? Well' your loyal to THAT brand for buying their computer xD

1. Don't double post. You could have edited your previous post, and I would have seen it.
2. With Jobs out of the picture, I'm hoping for more veriety with the way the OS works, more customization etc... I'm also hoping for them to work with other companies, not just Apple alone. That's my hope. I hope Apple conjoins with Nokia for even ONE phone... because the technology Nokia has is unbalivable!
3. I was one of the few who rooted for Nokia in my school when Nokia SUED Apple and WON for taking Nokia's technology without approval. Loyal my a**.

Russian

 

1) I'm on a smartphone, I cannot edit for some odd reason hence the separate post.

2) I never called you a fanboy. You may want to redirect your statement elsewhere.

3) You've taken the definition of loyal way out of context, lol.

5) Not too sure about Nokia.. I'm hoping that with Google's recent acquisition of Motorola will give it some space to advance its technology further with lesser restrictions.

 

1. I apologize then.
2. I said "I hate being called a fanboy, that is the point of my arguement" and I said in general "Don't call me a fanboy." aplogies if you took it direct.
3. No. Because whenever you purchase something, in the agreement/final reciept is says "Thank you for being a loyal customer to________" So technically I haven't
4. Motorola's technology isn't the best. Research Nokia's technology, I swear if Apple or Android team up with Nokia, it'll be one hell of a phone. And not talking about Symbian, as that OS is HORRIBLE!

Russian

 

I believe that apple is in the lead because of the ipod touch and iphone.

 

Honestly, Apple and Android are pretty much the same. The way I like to think about it, is like comparing regular jeans to designer jeans. Both jeans can do all the same stuff, but one of them costs extra, because it has a fancy brand name associated with it.

 

I want to say that Android is taking the lead. Just because of the fact how many phones are running it, while Apple is limited to the iPhone. Apple does have the loyal fans though and they are expecting to release the iPhone 5 in the third quarter.

 

Agree with that.