Dr. Kevorkian & assisted suicide

In what way?

Please do.

Should wars never happen, should criminals never be executed, and should we not defend ourselves if our lives are at risk? The logic here is so obviously flawed, as you don't bother to take into account the numerous times where taking a human life is a preferable moral solution to a greater evil.

Okay, but this doesn't address the issue of somebody suffering unbearable paint that is without a sufficient treatment.

Plenty of terminally-ill patients are constantly suffering agonizing pain, yet it is illegal to put them out of this misery simply because they are homo sapiens.

It would be difficult, but this hardly means that it should be disallowed altogether.

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Why?

There is no god, and it is natural rights, not natural law, that dictates human behavior.

This is basically an appeal to tradition; euthanasia is not legal at the present time, so it is therefore wrong.

 

I am not saying legality isnt a good reason to not commit murder. But just because its illegal doesnt make it wrong. You dont seem to understand the concept that morals and legal ruling is man-made and that on a very base level, there is no right or wrong in nature.

First of all i did not say its ok to rape a child. Nor does paedophilia mean you rape a child. It could be voluntary. Historically, it was not uncommon for men to have sex with boys... needless to say girls. I didnt say good is bad and bad is good. therefore i didnt say hitler is a saint. You twist everything up to accommodate your own stance. What I am saying is, in the end, no one can REALLY say it is right or wrong. Only on a legal or moral basis can they make such an accusation. You are arrogant as a human. Its like medicine killing off a bunch of bacteria. Medicine is bad to bacteria and bacteria is bad to the medicine. Just because your on the same side as the medicine doesnt make medicine right. .... what you cant understand is that it doesnt make it wrong either.

 

Appeal to pity

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Appeal to pity yet again...

No it's not, it's because at this current time the English legal system defines physician assisted suicide as murder.

Anyway i'm done on here, cya

 

you have said this like 10 times and keep coming back.

you only portray your inability to compose yourself through emotion.

you cannot even dismiss a little temptation to maintain your original notion of leaving. nice.

 

No i think it's more from a response thats interesting. Don't forget, humans are fickle and change their minds, like i've done clearly.

 

fickle? or easily manipulated.....?

i just made you change your mind and come back with a single sentence.

now imagine how easy it would be to manipulate the human mind to accept "morals" or legal ruling over time....

 

I believe that assisted suicide is a great concept. It is unfortunate if someone is suffering so much that they would want to suicide, but in that case it would be better to allow them to end their suffering than to force them to continue through their torture.

 

Human Life =/= Animal Life

Human life is much more precious, and that is why we go to greater lengths to protect it.

Life is an unalienable right, taking it away is not.

It is not illegal to commit suicide, but if you think you can just walk outside and try to kill yourself, and there won't be any consequences of that action, then you are very sadly mistaken.

 

What makes a human life more precious? Because humans say so? Please, we have a natural idea that we are important because we have to. I think the words of George Carlin explain this perfectly.

Who says? Last time I checked it's you life, not anyone elses. If you don't want life then it loses that idea of it being a right and becomes a forced idea, an oppressive idea.

It is illegal to attempt suicide, because people believe you have a chemical imbalance which makes you want to kill yourself. Ridiculous, while yes this does happen it's also not impossible for someone to just want to die.

Honestly if I wasn't so curious about learning about so many things I don't know about, I would kill myself because I see no point in going through life just to have it end in nothingness. The only reason I don't is because I have an insatiable curiosity to learn about myths such as greek religion, norse,christianity,islam, etc and sciences and history,but there are some people out there who don't have/want anything more with life. So why not let them end it?

Also I want you to imagine something for me.
Imagine you we in a horrible accident. In this accident you lost both your arms and legs. You also lost your hearing and sight. Now you are bed ridden forever, can't see or hear, and are in unimaginable pain for the rest of your life that to even get to sleep you have to be drugged, otherwise you would just be screaming from the pain until you passed out, until you reawoke later with the pain coming back full force. It feels renewed, that peace your body had when it was asleep is now gone and you must suffer through it as if it were the first time you felt it.
If this were you would you not ask for death? And if it was someone else could you look at them and say they shouldn't die because it is their so called "right" to live in this real life hell?

 

I applaud this man for what he did.

 

That is actually incorrect. Right to life necessitates that humans should never take the life of another humans. This is absolute folly. If someone attacks me with a knife, I will not hesitate to kill them. Right to life is not unalienable, it is only something advocated by pro-life socialist scums.

When your dead your dead, there are no consequences for you apart from death.

 

"pro-life socialist scums" I'm pretty sure socialists are more pro-choice rather than life?

 

Doesn't everyone die anyway ?
Does that mean everyone has the right for suicide ?

 

Socialists are the destruction of man kind, they hold that everyone is equal. You are equal to the person who just murdered your wife, and raped your child.

Socialists are certainly not pro-choice, they're pro-equality, which unfortunately has tainted their minds.

Everyone has the right to do what they want with their own body. Is this in question?

 

i dont think the government should be able to stop people from killing their selves, because its their choice and he was just trying to help people die peacefully and he had good intentions

 

I think you will find that suicide is illegal in most countries.

 

I believe it has been decriminalized in numerous countries. Could you enlighten me as to the countries that have it illegal please?

Also, regardless, it seems pretty moot anyone if it is to be illegal. What are they going to do? Drag his corpse to court, and give him a posthumous convictions? I think not. If he failed in his attempt, then he hasn't really committed suicide has he, merely fallen off a building, etc.

 

Eh I think its attempted suicide thats illegal considering actual suicide is kinda hard to punish someone for XD
It's only illegal because people value human lives so highly that they think noone would ever want to give it up so if someone tries they must have a chemical or psychological problem. Which does happen, don't get me wrong, but is just wanting to die so...impossible?

 

Attempted suicide being illegal would still be silly.

You could argue that you weren't attempting to suicide.
You could argue that you had a diminished capacity.

Even still, on the side of rights, and not law, you can do what you please with your own body.

 

Oh it is, but they get around it by bringing you in for "being a harm to yourself" which hard to disprove if you willingly jumped off say...a bridge with shallow water and lived. You could say you fell but if they find any evidence showing you in complete control then bam you get sent to the loony bin and drugged up.