Reflection

Okay, so reflection is supposedly programmaticly undetectable as long as you don't overdue it, as in going of 8ish hours. so i would love for someone to explain how if i talk to people sometimes, and the bot doesn't mess up, how i could possibly be caught for botting?

 

If you are there to babysit it, talking to people when they talk to you, and getting your character out of random events, you aren't going to get caught.

Jagex relies on you getting stuck in random events and being reported by other players.

Babysitting your account actively takes care of both of those.

 

There are other ways of detecting botters than simply checking the client for bytecode modification.

 

even if people report me, why would that make a difference? how would they know?

 

yeah, i've heard that. But i want to know what are these? if they can't to by a scan, and im using a bot like perfs fighter that looks more human like than me, how could they possibly catch me?

 

As long as your bot has somewhat randomized movements, and you don't play extremely abnormally, I see no way to get caught without Jagex looking at your account very closely. And Jagex is only going to do that if you get reported, stuck in random events, or a mod/J mod clearly sees you botting.

That, of course, is my opinion and speculation on the subject.

To your last question, Paul, being reported would have them look into the details of your account closer.

 

yeah, i know that. but what closer can they look? i mean if you have ever used perfs fighter its more human like than any other bot.

 

Patterns during gameplay, abnormal time played, stuff like that. Anything to indicate that you aren't human.

 

so although i've had an account reset months and months ago, if i bot and keep it under 8 hours a day, somedays not at all, and babysit i'll be fine?

 

Dunno why you are seeking a guarantee, we aren't Jagex lol.

But there are plenty of people here that still bot on reset accounts.

 

no, i got reset on a noob, not the current account. But im not seeking a guarantee, im just curious as how they could catch you if its reflection and your using a human like bot, and dont bot for extreme amounts of time.

 

I see no way of them catching you if you are babysitting, like I said.

But then again, Jagex 'apparently' has a list of the people that have purchased bots from the various vendor websites and is going to be using it to take action (I can't see how it isn't another load of BS they are saying to make legit players happy, but only time will tell)

 

well if they really do have a list, i mine as well bot if im gonna be caught

 

That's the spirit. Abuse all you can, while you can But I will be surprised if they hold true on all the BS they posted recently.

 

true that, i doubt they could get a hold of those records, or if they were even saved. probably just bluffing to keep legit players happy.

 

I've had several accounts banned while babysitting, responding to every chat, doing under 6 hours a day, etc. Jagex does indeed have detection systems in place, I have even seen people get banned within minutes of starting their bots. The fact of the matter is that Jagex does have the capabilities to record your mouse movements and decompile them and prove that you are botting. The only bots I've ever seen that is fully undetectable is Robotz In Disguise. The programmer there has graduated with a programming and mathematics degree in a very reputable university. He has replicated human mouse movements, and following these Guidelines -> http://www.robotzindisguise.com/Guidelines.htm not a single person has been banned while using RiD since they were formed in August 2008. Only 21 people have been banned breaking the Guidelines in that same time. That's an estimated 0.0007% ban rate split across all of their bots.

TL;DR version:

Reflection and BCEL scripts are detectable because they have decompilable mouse movements, and other things that give Jagex the proof they need to ban you.

 

thank you, this is what i was looking for. I do have RiD, but only about 200 credits, and the only fighting type bot is pest control, and thats slow exp. and i like to be able to set breaks, and not get stuck in every random, and go on youtube ect while botting.

 

Well pest control can get 90k+ exp an hour in the upper 90's in the vet boat, but I do agree that it isn't the fastest, but it isn't bad for undetectable botting. RiD has added I think like 4-5 random event solutions, and is working very hard at completely all of them as soon as he can. I usually only get like 1 random event every 1-3 days at pest control, so it's not really that big of a deal anyway. Also there is a guide on the site for how to set up a virtual machine that you can minimize the bot in and do other stuff. Right now I'm botting fletching with RiDiverse and I'm not only doing other stuff, but I'm also on a Mac as well.

 

Doesn't a virtual machine cost money?

 

If they report you, your probably not talking enough...
And you could talk non-stop... and still get banned. They dont JUST rely on player reports, and random events.

Although I have no clue how they do it, because jagex has kept that pretty secret