Should the age to vote be reduced to 16?

i am not a retard i know what a hyperbole is, and exaggeration.
the fact of the matter is 16 year olds are minors (theres no debating that fact) and minors should not be allowed to vote (my opinon).

Im done on this thread... gotta hit the sack, as i have to wake up early. yall have fun!

 

If only you knew it before your spell of literalness.

Irrelevant. Minors pay taxes to, they also drive cars which have the potential to kill, they're also the innovative minds of the future, we also have opinions, we also have the right to voice those opinions in the form of voting, especially since we contribute to the country.

Gn.

 

i know in iran its like 16, because they try to get everyone's opinion.
Not sure, i think 18 is best!

 

Well, Iran politics is destructive, their persecution of Baha'is, among other things.

Why do you think this?

 

"There were an estimated 6,420,000 cars involved in accidents in the US in 2005. The cost of these accidents exceeds 230+ Billion dollars. There were about 2.9 million injury cases and 42,636 car accident deaths. An average of 115 persons die each day in motor vehicle crashes in the United States -- one every 13 minutes. According to the World Health Organization about 3000 people die in crashes each day worldwide."

"90,000–166,000 killed in Hiroshima
60,000–80,000 killed in Nagasaki"

 

^What the fuck does that have to do with anything?

OT: I don't see what difference lowering the voting age from 18 to 16 would make. Might as well wait two more years so at least you mature a bit...

 

If there's no visible difference then why not let the people who contribute to this country vote? It is an unalienable after all.

Voting is not contingent on maturity level, thus this argument is irrelevant.

 

I know we aren't. You brought up a point that 16 year olds pay (sales)taxes so therefore, they should be able to vote for the future of their country. And my point is, so do 8 year old

Fuck the studies. I know way too many people who agree with what their parents say without truly knowing something. Of course this happens universal, but I don't want anymore of this occurring.

Allowing this promotes bad voting habits. I don't want my figurehead to be someone who was randomly chosen because people aren't smart enough to research and form an opinion of a person.

Not having 16 year olds vote reduces the possibility of voting on impulse.

You're giving 16 year olds too much credit.

 

8 year olds don't pay taxable income, can't work, and can't drive.

Ignorance.

Adults do it just the same amount as teenagers do. Perhaps we should bar some adults from voting.

No it doesn't, having 16 year olds vote would give a clear indicator on what everyone in the country wants.

Your challenging our intestional fortitude by ignoring empirical evidence, believing in un-stratified results, and denying me/us the right to vote for or against the people that we pay taxes to. Some of us pay far more taxes than adults.

 

i would say keep at 18. most 18 year olds dont even know whats going on, anything about politics, anything about who they vote for and simply lack the maturity and experience needed to make some reasonably logical vote.... so to me, 16 is completely out of the question.

this response is primarily targeted at U.S. population as correlation between age and maturity could be culturally dependent.

 

Before this law ever gets passed the drinking age in the US should be lowered to 18.

I can die for my country but i can't drink. Logic at its finest

 

Voting is not contingent on maturity.

Also, to say we are not aware is to say we are not ignorant. The onus of proof is on you to prove how we are not aware of things unfolding right before our eyes.

Drinking has scientific evidence to back up it's age limit, voting has no evidence. While I'm all for lowering the drinking age, this debate is about voting specifically.

 

In my opinion no way in hell. When I think back to my friends in high-school, most of them A. Had no clue about anything politically related, other than what there parents or friends told them or B. Got everything the know about potential candidates from their parents or a single (usually biased) news station.

 

So do adults. Adults just as easily succumb to Social Conformity. To deny teenagers the right for not being better than adults, yet fulfilling virtually the same obligations to society as them is desultory.

 

At that young of age, and I openly admit to doing it, we align our views with a person and stay strong to them.
So, if someone really was loyal to their party... They would adopt 432903248 children and tell them to vote blahblahblah.

 

I must be part of the barely, also, you don't need to know anything about law in order to understand what you'd be voting for x party over y party.

Over 1000's of conversations I've had with different teens, it's just either suddenly come up. Sometimes in class. Regardless, the onus of proof is on you to prove that we're oblivious to whats going on around us considering all the technology available to us, and the constant unraveling of government decisions before our eyes.

Why is this?

Yes, though she was never voted in initially, she was simply voted to remain in power.

 

Couldn't have said it better.In Europe, people in all countries are allowed to drink alcohol from childhood within their home The legal age where you can buy it is about 18.

 

This thread is about voting not drinking. If you'd like to debate the drinking law, then make a thread.

 

I'd keep it 18, most 16 year olds don't even care or know a lot about the government.

 

This is irrelevant.

(A) Your right to vote is not contingent on knowledge about government, nor is there a caveat that you must care, also, many adults do not care.

(B) With reference to point (A), teens continue to pay Income Tax when applicable, yet we cannot aid in the decision of who runs our country?