Casinos and sports books do not like advantaged players

You've made this very simple by your own logic. If you cannot verify the bet history, on what grounds are you owed $2200? There simply isn't a way to verify that this amount is owed. By your own admission, there are no records (which is false as I have shown in 2 deleted posts that staff can see) and the amount I allegedly owe you has no merit. You can keep on posting your casino analogies but a casino can definitely cut you off but they cannot void wagers after they have been accepted due to market line movement. I've been cut off before by several people, it's a part of the game but never once have bets been cancelled simply because it didn't go your way. Boohoo. As @WorthyGP mentioned in Discord, look up the term blanket immunity - you are wanting this to apply to you where you can void anything unfavorable while still demanding losses.

 

I can’t access the voided bets. I know you feel like that was a big “gotcha” but I have been pretty clear that I can’t access the bets that were cancelled. I can see all the bets where you and your friends had won/lost but you already know that.

Casinos CAN definitely void wagers that have been placed but have not yet started. Have you ever gambled at a casino before?

 

He has now admitted he cannot access the records of the voided bets. That means he cannot show which wagers were cancelled or when, even though that’s exactly what staff asked for. Without proof, his claim that they were voided pre-kickoff can't even be verified nor the amount he is asking for.

The casino analogy doesn’t hold either. Yes, casinos can refuse future bets, or void for obvious errors as I've clearly pointed out, but they do not accept wagers and then erase them without record. Every licensed/legal sportsbook keeps a full bet history for transparency. The inability or refusal to provide one here is a red flag.

My position hasn’t changed: if those cancelled wagers had lost, I would have paid more, I’m asking for consistent grading. If he wants to enforce a $2,200 loss, he must also account for the wagers that were accepted in my favor. Otherwise, his rule that “any wager can be cancelled at any time” gives him blanket immunity, which is he keeps all my losses but erases any wins. That’s not fair dealing or ethical in its own right.

 

That fact has been known. You claimed I was supposedly lying about not having access to the voided bets. You made up a completely fake “agent” that you have and provided no proof to substantiate your claim that I am lying. You called me a liar with no proof.



You are right that I don’t have access to the exact moment the bets were voided, but I do know what time I was texted and informed and what time I messaged you to let you know that the accounts were flagged & bets were voided.



It’s funny you mention what a licensed/legal sports book would have when you know you are betting on an unlicensed book. You even mocked that fact here in discord:



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Based off the timelines, it’s clear no bets were active.

Once I let you know you raised no concern. It’s pretty obvious that if you had any active bets you would have raised immediate concern.



It’s not about “what you would have paid”. It’s about the fact that the book DID NOT WANT your action. The bets were cancelled before the games began. No one could have known the outcome.



You don’t understand the concept of rules and “We reserve the right to refuse service”.



Your claim that this is unethical is ridiculous. Unethical would be cancelling LIVE bets. The bets were not LIVE. You did not know the outcome.



As a society, why do we have rules if they supposedly do not have any merit? That’s really what it comes down to.

 

No proof or documentation has been provided here as that's what @Andy is looking for. I have provided proof of the other agent's claims in a deleted post accessible to staff. Post the full betting log and we can go from there, otherwise you just have baseless claims and are part of a shady operation that cancels any edge a player using your book might have.

 

I saw the deleted posts. The image was not an official document from the betting platform. To me that looked to be like your own spreadsheet.

I am standing firm that you are not being truthful about the fact that you supposedly have verified information that contradicts what I’m saying as I am telling the truth.

Your bets were cancelled and your account was cancelled. There was no nitpicking of bet cancellation. You have been refused service. Your bets were not live. It doesn’t matter that I don’t have the list of voided bets because they were void.

What this comes down to really is the rules. You agreed to the rules of the platform. There was nothing unethical done. The bets were cancelled before the games had begun. The book didn’t want your action, so it doesn’t matter that you would supposedly have paid had you lost.

What it comes down to:
Did the rules allow the bets to be canceled? Yes
Were the bets live while being canceled?
No

 

Yes, exactly.