Marijuana.

I wanna see something that proves that otherwise I am calling bullshit. Just because they started with it too, doesn't mean that every person is going to do the harder stuff.

 

I wanna see something that proves that otherwise I am calling bullshit. Just because they started with it too, doesn't mean that every person is going to do the harder stuff.

 

You are right. Even if 90% of the people did start on marijuana, 90% of the people didn't move on to harder drugs after they did marijuana. I'm not saying that you will, but you have a higher chance to try other, more dangerous drugs. There are two solid reasons this might happen. NEITHER of them can really be proven or disproved
1. They enjoy the high and want to experience something new/cool/different/whatever
2. The type of people that would try pot are the type of people who would do other drugs, and the type of people who wouldn't try pot are the people who wouldn't try other drugs.

I think it is really a combination of both.

 

Not even close to true. So without the proof, you made that stat up out of your ass.
Just because you do marijuana doesn't mean you automatically want to try something harder. Both of your points are wrong.

 

Yo dude chill.... I will come up with the proof if you want me to. No need to be a jerk about it. I NEVER said that you will automatically try harder stuff. In fact, I said YOU WERE RIGHT. You need to learn to read man.

 

Okay here we go. This supports both of our arguments http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gateway_drug_theory#Cannabis

Anyway, I will try to restate what I mean so that you can understand. Let me know if you have any questions -

I believe that people who try marijuana have a higher chance to try other drugs. That does not necessarily mean marijuana causes them to turn to other drugs. I just mean that between personality and enjoying the experience, marijuana is a very common starter drug for people who use harder drugs. This may also just be because it is so easy to get.

I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT IF YOU USE MARIJUANA YOU WILL USE HARD DRUGS

 

They did a test, if you smoke weed at a younger age during development of the body say ages 14-16 pubity phase they found that it'll effect your brain. One that didn't smoke it was smarter and the one that smoked it was really confused and slower. They did a test on mice too giving them injections of THC.

 

Last time I checked a dandelion didn't have a psychoactive substance in it.

 

mhmmmmmm I'm puffin a j right now fuckin shit is good <3 marijuana

 

Agreed

 

CORRECTED, there are no deaths because of maryjane alone, people usually smoke cigarrets in mix with marijuana, i dont know about legalization but i think making cigarretes illegal is something to look forward too.

 

Cigarretes is a giant cash cow. They will never get illegalized.

 

So I'm pretty sure you took what I was saying the wrong way. I wasn't saying legalize it so people can use it to cope with regular day life. To me, using a drug to cope with regular life is not a good thing. I guess I was just stating that so people would know that I understand it is possible to do that. I was kind of at that point myself a little over a year ago.

And I still have to disagree on the whole, making it legal will make it easier for kids to get it. Yeah when I was a minor I could snuff, cigarettes, or beer pretty much whenever. Just had to find somebody who would by it...on new years our parents would just buy it for us. But what I was trying to say is that anybody, minor or adult, can go buy pot from a dealer when it is illegal. If pot is legal, I'm pretty sure you would have to be 21 to get it, and who knows if its even going to be available at regular convenient stores and grocery stores. You might only be able to get it from weed dispensaries. And yes I'm sure minors will just be able to get somebody old enough to buy it for them like they do now with tobacco and alcohol, but at least they wouldn't be able to just go buy it from a dealer themselves.

Now for the whole you can tell who smokes pot and who doesn't, you said in high school you could tell who smokes pot regularly with about 80% accuracy. Of course you can they're high school students...minors...in school....who probably didn't even want to be there. I'm going to go back to my statement in which I said you have to be responsible with it. (which you agreed with.) Now, if you take somebody....like me, I'm in college, I have a part time job and I work mon-sat 8am to 11am. I handle my school studies, and I'm usually never late for work, and I only smoke usually sometime after 6 or 7 in the afternoon, when I have no more responsibilities to worry about for the day. I don't shave to much, only because I hate shaving. But I keep my hair clean, my clothes clean, my car clean, my apartment clean, and I pay my bills. I'm pretty damn sure, that if I went up to somebody that I haven't seen since high school, or a co-worker, and said "hey I smoke pot!" their jaw would probably hit the floor.

Last but not least. I wasn't saying make pot legal so everybody could sell and make a decent living. I was saying, some people sell pot, because it is not easy to make a decent living in general. I understand that if pot is legal, major tobacco companies would probably take over that industry. I was told by somebody, but have never researched it, that Marlboro has already taken the name purple haze so that when pot does become legal, they have the rights to that name.

P.S. if pot does become legal, I don't think the whole country is going to go outside and get stoned and start doing stupid shit in the streets. Lets think realistically here people.

 

The argument that legalizing it won't work or genrate money because people can grow it is absurd. We can grow oranges yet we still but them...

Most people will want to buy a $5 gram at the gas station over growing a plant for 5 moths, watering it daily, picking the buds, drying it and all this shit for 20 grams in the end.

It's like living solely of your own vegetable garden. Surely some people will do it because they enjoy it or have little money, but the majority won't.

 

Okay I guess I did misunderstand some of your arguments. The only one that I do really disagree with the most is how easy it is to get it. The dealers may still deal, because like you said some people will grow. So a kid could still walk up to a dealer. And even if there were NO dealers at all and only major companies sold it, it would still be easier than it is now. It isn't like you have to be secretive about it like you do now.
I am in college too, and I have 3 dealers on my floor alone (talk about competition ). However, it is still easier to obtain alcohol. The store down the street will sell alcohol to minors, and I have plenty of friends over 21. We always have alcohol in the fridge.

 

i like pot, smoke pot for 3 yers now, still im against the legalization of it, seeing the effects it has on your social life, the risks of mad and not realizing the world.

Example. if u smoke weed everyday, you exprience your high state as a normal one..meaning being high is normal to you wich makes it to a strong mental addiction, as far as i can say from myself..im still at the limit but i can see it come..

 

I have never planned to smoke pot. I know enough to say that Pot is safe to smoke, as long as you're smart. Do I plan on ever doing pot? nah. Might I do pot sometime? who knows

 

So is that why less than 1% of all marijuana smokers move onto heroin or cocaine? (cited from The Union: The Business Behind Getting High)

Also a lot of people claim it causes cancer. Anyone who is actually educated even in the slightest would know this is false. Go to cancer.gov and you will see just how many studies have proven that it either doesn't cause cancer, or can actually reduce the risks of cancer. To give a few quotes:

For those who say that it causes schizophrenia, it does not actually CAUSE it. It does however cause those who have a predisposition to schizophrenia to develop it on average 2.7 years earlier than they would other if they smoked before their brain was fully developed. This is due to the cannabinoid receptors in brain. (Cited from a Time magazine article)

For those who say that it is a gateway drug, this is only partially true because of prohibition. If you legalize it and make it so the easiest way to acquire it is to go to a government regulated store, this removes the exposure to harder drugs that they would be exposed to if they were to get their weed from a dealer, who probably also deals other drugs. When you remove the risk of exposure due to buying something, then it decreases the rate at which it is used. If cigarettes were illegal and the only way you could get them was through a dealer, and you dealer always offered you crack, or cocaine, or heroin, wouldn't there be a higher risk of you being tempted to buy them? It might not be that way for everyone, but it would be for a large number of people.

For anyone who says that marijuana kills brain cells;

The study in which they made the claim that marijuana killed brain cells, after 6 years of being asked to show how the study was carried out, they released that they took rhesus monkeys, and attached a gas mask to their face, and pumped 63 columbian strength joints (20-60 grams depending on how much it was packed, nonetheless it is an obscene amount of pot) through the gas masks into the monkeys lungs, but without additional oxygen over a period of 5 minutes everyday for 90 days. After 4 minutes without oxygen you start to suffer brain damage, so obviously if these monkeys are being deprived of oxygen at these levels every day, their brain cells are going to die.There has not been a single study since that has proven that it kills brain cells, there has even been a few that suggest that the existence of omega-6 in cannabis seeds can actually help enhance brain cell growth. (cited from The Union: The Business Behind Getting High)

 

it should defently be legal again ! like straight up pot is aamazing 100%

 

I smoke pot like 1/week and I'm all healthy haha .. but i dunno if it should be legal.. might become more expensive because of the taxes